"We're almost their." or "It's not mine. It's there's."
"The poodles have gone to far!"
Where is the Stuffy Grammarian?
And today's very lead story on this site refers to "Blood of Dragonscar" as a "grizzly" adventure, when the word "grisly" is correct.
"Grisly" means "horrible"; a "grizzly" is a bear (or gray-haired).
"I could care less."
Well, then, go right ahead.
There are three ways to spell 2, two ways to spell 1, and no word that rhymes with orange.
Though my favorite of these is when a handmade sign is attached to a gas pump saying, "Do to drive-offs, you must pay first for gas."
Well, it is pretty damned disturbing how people intentionally slaughter their own language for the sake of brevity.
BRB instead of Be right back for instance...
Did it really save you any time to not type that out? Is it that you don't know how to type and you are a henpecker on the keyboard?
And then, oh dear lord...the frakkin l33t speakers...christ...nothing gets my head spinning quicker than this.....on WoW...it's been things like ne1 instead of anyone ...makes me wonder how people can function in a corporate environ when they casually type like this...it's GOT to creep into work somehow...you know?
"He should of stopped that woman."
"She owns several cat's."
Some days, it doesn't pay to be a high school English teacher (sob)...
...it's GOT to creep into work somehow...you know?
I can tell you, it more than creeps into my students' writing, it busts in and takes over sometimes... U no?
I can tell you, it more than creeps into my students' writing, it busts in and takes over sometimes... U no?...it's GOT to creep into work somehow...you know?
My IT experience started with being an online tech support person for AOL back in the day when "internet access" was $4.95 an hour. We did all of our work in the chat rooms, and we're expected to type in complete sentences and with a modicrum of decent spelling....if we didn't, we'd get let go from the position (which waived the hourly fee for our own internet access!!!).
I for one know that I am butchering english when it comes to run on sentences and punctuation (I write very stream of consciousness and find it hard not to use "....")...but dear lord, at least I KNOW the difference!
Dear Boss,
I can has raise?
Sin Surly,
wurker
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Welcome back…officially. :P
irrelevant stuffWelcome back…officially. :P
Wait..(adjusts halo to hide horns)...
As if you didn't know...just look at the names for christ's sake...
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"He should of stopped that woman."
"She owns several cat's."Some days, it doesn't pay to be a high school English teacher (sob)...
My favorite was when I walked into a middle school library and there was a handwritten sign on one of the bookshelves that had been misspelled. There were twenty of us teachers there, all struggling not to pull out our red pens and correct the person's work. And we had to look at it every Saturday for six weeks.
Edit: I teach history and have been know to butcher the English language as much as the next person. If I could tell the words were misspelled, it must have been really bad.
"He should of stopped that woman."
You would hate to be in Texas. We speak that way ALL the time. Some other nuances we Texans have is the use of the word "ain't" and exchanging the words "got" and "have". Here's an example: "I got five dollars" instead of saying "I have five dollars". I'm usually one of the worst perpetrators of doing all of the above. ;)
This is my thread! Allow me to extend a most appreciative comment of recognition to Mr. Poodle for thinking of me.
You would hate to be in Texas. We speak that way ALL the time. Some other nuances we Texans have is the use of the word "ain't" and exchanging the words "got" and "have". Here's an example: "I got five dollars" instead of saying "I have five dollars". I'm usually one of the worst perpetrators of doing all of the above. ;)"He should of stopped that woman."
Speaking non-standard English is one thing. At least then, if something doesn't make sense, you can ask the person "what the @#%& do you mean by that." What makes me want to curl up in the fetal position are the ones who simply transliterate (direct analog of their speech in writing) onto paper, and worse, don't realize they are doing so, even after it has been pointed out to them.
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I teach ESL to students intending to study in university in the next year or two. My peeves are more along the lines of (1) 'p' and 'b' are entirely different letters, (2) an 'l' does not become an 'r' every other time you use the word, (3) my name is 'Trevor Gulliver' not 'Travel Gullible'. You guys have it easy. At least you can understand what your misspellers are intending!
At least you can understand what your misspellers are intending!
Not always...
I feel your pain with the ESL problem. I would say a good 75% of the population of the school at which I teach do not speak English as the native tongue. About 25% have not yet been reclassified as "fluent" (whatever that means, considering the tenor of this thread).
Well, the original thread was about incorrect spellings...not about folks who come here speaking other languages.
Whereas I can cut someone who does not speak english as a first language alot of slack...I do believe that we are entirely too liberal when it comes to languages.
Personally, I feel that we (as a nation) need to do the following...
A) Establish english as the official language of the nation
B) Require immigrants to go through ESL courses before being able to enter the workforce. Sweden requires two years of this before a work permit is issued...
C) If a town decides that they wish to recognize it's constituents and post general signage (road, business, government) in another language, it should be posted in english as well.
I am not saying that people need to leave their language and culture behind, I am however saying that we need to preserve ours.
I've sworn off political threads.
*slowly backs out of thread*
Well, you could simply go back to the original intent of the thread...which is mispellings...
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Well, you could simply go back to the original intent of the thread...which is mispellings...I've sworn off political threads.
*slowly backs out of thread*
You mean 'misspellings'? We've already established elsewhere that attacks on Ms. Pelling were not to be tolerated on these boards.
EDIT: Thanks for the intentional misspelling to get the thread back on topic. It is much appreciated.
Ya'll fellers shor do tawk funny. Ah ain't shur whut ya mean sumtimes.
EDIT: Thanks for the intentional misspelling to get the thread back on topic. It is much appreciated.
Actually, whereas I am normally pretty good with spelling, I goobered on that one!!! But thanks for assuming I did it intentionally!! :)
EDIT: Thanks for the intentional misspelling to get the thread back on topic. It is much appreciated.Actually, whereas I am normally pretty good with spelling, I goobered on that one!!! But thanks for assuming I did it intentionally!! :)
Pretty ironical, ain't it! :)
C) If a town decides that they wish to recognize it's constituents and post general signage (road, business, government) in another language, it should be posted in english as well.
"Its" is possessive; "it's" is a contraction of "it is."
Also, "a town" cannot properly receive "they" as a pronoun. In addition to requiring ESL courses for immigrants, we should also do a better job of teaching our own population the rudiments of proper English. Then again, in the defense of the spelling and gramatically challenged, English is the only language rated a "5" by the U.S. Army (said rating indicating the greatest difficulty facing those seeking to attain perfect fluency).
C) If a town decides that they wish to recognize it's constituents and post general signage (road, business, government) in another language, it should be posted in english as well."Its" is possessive; "it's" is a contraction of "it is."Also, "a town" cannot properly receive "they" as a pronoun. In addition to requiring ESL courses for immigrants, we should also do a better job of teaching our own population the rudiments of proper English. Then again, in the defense of the spelling and gramatically challenged, English is the only language rated a "5" by the U.S. Army (said rating indicating the greatest difficulty facing those seeking to attain perfect fluency).
Perfection is not the goal here.
And truthfully, I find it difficult to believe you are coming after my own usage of the language. Compared to the examples given (that is the focus of this conversation) it is relatively flawless.
Explain semicolons to me again, please.
"This is full of fail. The English language pwned you."
Point.
PUPD n00b! = Put your pen down.
You could mark their papers with "This is full of fail. The English language pwned you."
Might get their attention...
I'd simply mark it with a large red F.
Failure is sure to get their attention.
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You would hate to be in Texas. We speak that way ALL the time. Some other nuances we Texans have is the use of the word "ain't" and exchanging the words "got" and "have". Here's an example: "I got five dollars" instead of saying "I have five dollars". I'm usually one of the worst perpetrators of doing all of the above. ;)"He should of stopped that woman."
Thing is, we may talk like that (God knows I'm guilty), but we generally do not write like that. Generally, that is. I've seen signs on gas pumps that make me wonder...
You, apparently, have not attended an American high school...
Denzel Washington, Remember the Titans. I attended T.C. Williams H.S. in Alexandria VA, class of 1988.
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Denzel Washington, Remember the Titans. I attended T.C. Williams H.S. in Alexandria VA, class of 1988.
You, apparently, have not attended an American high school...
Good flick, but my point still stands. Kids don't seem to give a crap anymore, and see a teacher failing them as "unfair", not as motivation to improve themselves.
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You could mark their papers with "This is full of fail. The English language pwned you."
Might get their attention...
I'd simply mark it with a large red F.
Failure is sure to get their attention.
Some times a little too badly. I once held a parent teacher conference where I told a student and her parents that she was getting an A-. After their meeting with me, they tracked down my principle and demanded to know what type of teacher I was that there daughter was getting an A-, that she had never gotten such a low grade in her life, and that she was emotionally devestated by the fact that she was getting that grade. I wok at a school for troubled teens and my principle told the parents that maybe the fact that their daughter could not deal with getting an A- was one of the reasons she needed to be in our program.
Good flick, but my point still stands. Kids don't seem to give a crap anymore, and see a teacher failing them as "unfair", not as motivation to improve themselves.
Well, I mentioned the movie because it is about the H.S. I went to...
As for students and teachers and failing as unfair...this is societies fault. Failure is failure...not "an opportunity for improvement". Did you know that Australia has banned the use of red pens on a students paper?
And truthfully, I find it difficult to believe you are coming after my own usage of the language. Compared to the examples given (that is the focus of this conversation) it is relatively flawless.
When I taught high school, there was a prize for best English composition; each piece submitted was evaluated on the correct use of complex grammar. In the last 10 consecutive years, no American student had ever won first place. Rather, it was consistently demonstrated that ESL students from Germany and India consisitently had better spelling and grammar than "relatively flawless" American students. This tells me that perhaps perfection should be our goal -- that way, when we inevitably fall short, we're at least better in our native language than are adolescent foreign nationals.
I'm no longer a high school teacher because my 35% failure rate was deemed "unacceptable" (never mind the fact that much of the glassware stored in my classroom cabinets could easily meet the passing standards). I was asked, more or less point-blank, "What gave you the impression that you're here to teach these kids anything?"
Is this the thread where people have all the answers to the questions no one's axing?
And truthfully, I find it difficult to believe you are coming after my own usage of the language. Compared to the examples given (that is the focus of this conversation) it is relatively flawless.When I taught high school, there was a prize for best English composition; each piece submitted was evaluated on the spelling and correct use of complex grammar. In the last 10 consecutive years, no American student had ever won first place. Rather, it was consistently demonstrated that ESL students from Germany and India consisitently had better spelling and grammar than "relatively flawless" American students. This tells me that perhaps perfection should be our goal -- that way, when we inevitably fall short, we're at least better in our native language than are adolescent foreign nationals.
I'm no longer a high school teacher because my 35% failure rate was deemed "unacceptable." I was asked, more or less point-blank, "What gave you the impression that you're here to teach these kids anything?"
Although I am loathe to admit this *chuckles*....I agree with you whole-heartedly, Kirth!
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Good flick, but my point still stands. Kids don't seem to give a crap anymore, and see a teacher failing them as "unfair", not as motivation to improve themselves.Well, I mentioned the movie because it is about the H.S. I went to...
As for students and teachers and failing as unfair...this is societies fault. Failure is failure...not "an opportunity for improvement". Did you know that Australia has banned the use of red pens on a students paper?
Failure, unless it results in death, is always an "opportunity for improvement". If I fail at something, it pisses me off so much that I do anything I can to get better at it. When I played basketball in high school, I missed a game winning free throw (and we lost in overtime). My coach told me it was ok, people don't always make the winning shot, but it didn't keep me from shooting literally thousands of free throws until I was consistently hitting 50 in a row. My free throw percentage increased 15 points (from 70% to 85%) by the end of the season.
Accepting failure is a character flaw, imo.
After their meeting with me, they tracked down my principle and demanded to know what type of teacher I was that there daughter was getting an A-, that she had never gotten such a low grade in her life, and that she was emotionally devestated by the fact that she was getting that grade.
Heh. Some of the other teachers and I used to maintain a secret "National Dishonor Society" file, documenting cases in which straight-A National Honor Society members flagrantly plagairized work, only to have all accusations (and proof) quashed by the administration acting on behalf of the kids' parents. The logic was that "we lose the ability to teach so many other children effectively, if we challenge these few and become bankrupted by lawsuits."