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Time to start the Caprica thread.
Here's a very cool 3 minute preview from Amazon.
And here's the Sci-fi Channel trailer.
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And here's the Sci-fi Channel trailer.You mean SyFy?
I so much hope they don't go through with that.
Looks like the DVD is due 21 April, with the televised pilot and 23 episode first season run scheduled for this Fall.
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Thought I'd rent the movie, but it's out a day early here in Korea, so I bought it this evening--
Definitely worth the time to watch it! I'd like to see how the ideas (none really new, but nicely packaged) in this movie fare on the Civil Religious thread.
Very well done film, and if the series keeps with the style of the pilot, I think we'll all be very pleased, overall. Very, very cool to see the genesis of the Cylons and Cylon religion.
And I can't help it, but I would have done the same thing in Adama's shoes. The chance to see a loved one again, especially a child, is a very powerful idea. I'll say, it was a very creepy moment as she broke down, though, "I can't feel my heartbeat! Daddy, why can't I feel my heartbeat!"
I'm betting we learn in later episodes that the nun at the Athenian Academy was behind Ben's suicide.
I have absolutely no idea where they got the idea that the human brain is the equivalent of 350MB; that's ridiculously low. A low-end guess of the average brain's capacity is in the exaflops and probably in excess of many-many yottaflops; not to mention the brain is not a binary system, so there may be no comprehensible way of measuring total performance and capacity, in terms of processing or storage.
Awesome VRT and a super cool CPU interface, too. A paper interface I can fold up and carry around--awesome.
Also, it's probably made-up, but it sounds familiar--does anyone recognize the Tauren language? Listen when Adama and the thug are talking outside the courthouse. It's almost Aramaic.
Just watched the Caprica pilot yesterday night. It shares a lot of the themes that BSG projected (religious and social strife, the nature of humanity, morality), but focused considerably on what makes up the human consciousness. I don't think the 350 MB capacity was even remotely accurate (doesn't explain higher cognitive functions for example, such as problem-solving or creativity), but it was really intriguing to me, reminds me of many of Philip K. Dick's works.
I'm stoked to see what's in store once the season unfolds.
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Ah, but don't mix up storage capacity with the amount of storage actually used and with processing power. When I first heard the number I thought "OK, who dropped the ball on this one... if anything they should have made it seem ridiculously large."
Having found that repeatedly using a hot blonde woman on their posters worked well for BSG, SyFy have decided to controversially go for using a hot brunette on their posters for CAPRICA instead.
Which would be fine in a predictable-lowest-common-denominator sort of way, except for the fact that whilst actress Alessandra Torresani is 22, her character (Zoe Graystone) is only 16. And dead. Kind of. So it'll be interesting to see if that elicits much comment from people.
Despite that, the other approach of the publicity image, suggesting a parallel between Eve and Zoe, is actually quite thematically interesting given what happened in the pilot and what we know happens later in BSG.
I thought the pilot was great and will be tuning in for the series itself which debuts on 22 January.
Wow. This show is... not good. (And I'm being charitable.)
So far (after the pilot and second episode) it reeks of most of the things that stunk up BSG in its last seasons. The wacky religious stuff is already rearing it's ugly head, and we're already saddled with loony terrorist space-mormons by ep 2. I was overjoyed with the death of supremely-annoying emo teen, to find out that she's a major part of the show, and we now get to watch "the adventures of robo-emo-teen" for who knows how long. Ronald D. Moore's weird penchant for making completely unlikeable characters, and then expecting (hoping?) we'll continue to watch, is on full display here... and making characters one doesn't care about isn't a bright thing to do. [So far, the only crap from BSG that hasn't made it over is RDM's "make up s@$+ as we go along" method of show-creation. Thank goodness.]
Why would I (or anyone) want to watch a show with unlikeable characters and an especially unlikeably annoying emo robo-teen; i.e. characters I don't care about? Good grief.
And this ignores how lame Caprica has made BSG in any future watchings - hey look, we're all Cylon monotheists because some dumb misguided 16-year-old-chick thinks that monotheism is awesome/edgy/rebellious! And the Final Five who eventually stumble across them near the end of the First Cylon War suddenly (and inexplicably) think it's a good idea too! Woo!
(And a final jab: "TEH ANGST! ZOMG, TEH ANGST!" Bleh.)
Mmmm. That was a good fun rant. :D
Also, it's probably made-up, but it sounds familiar--does anyone recognize the Tauren language? Listen when Adama and the thug are talking outside the courthouse. It's almost Aramaic.
Actually, it is not made up, at least not entirely. Do you know the saying "It sounds Greek to me"? Well, in this case it is more or less true.
Though the grammar or syntax might need a bit of work -or it might just be me getting a bit confused by the American accent behind it- the Tauron language or at least a sizeable part of it is Greek; perhaps closer to Ancient Greek rather than modern, but still. For example, the word "nothos" Joseph Adama's brother uses at some point during the conversation in the pilot means "illegitimate son" in Greek, i.e. bastard.
Whether I'm in the minority or majority is irrelevant; after the first two episodes I'm really liking Caprica and looking forward to Friday night's episode. And this is coming from a guy who's irreligious, but reads a lot on comparative religions / theology as well as self-consciousness with regard to a human vs. AI sociological point-of-view. It fuels the contemplative cogs in my noggin.
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Nope, I like it too.
Subtly level, I like how Adama's theme snuck its way into the revelation about the Adams family. It wasn't much of a reveal to those who knew the plot, but the music's a nice touch. I'll have to wander over to McCreary's website to see if he has notes on other cues I missed.
I'm interested in the Tauran crime syndicate. Looks a bit like elements of the Mafia and Yakuza.
Also wondering if Bill's understanding of Saul's elbow problem comes from his own family history.
The mono-theists are interesting. We'd always assumed that the cylon's mono-theism came from the Five, but now I'm wondering.
Some of the shots where we see the actress playing Zoe being treated as the cylon are creepy.
Who didn't have chills when the cylon came online and finished the exercise with 'by your command'.
At least they can't mass produce Zoe. No explination on why she's linked to the one cylon and not the processor. Also wondering where zoe 'goes' when the chip is out.
As to the emo thing. I didn't notice as much. Maybe because I'm looking at it as a viewer who knows "This won't end well."
Also, does anyone notice not only how advanced the tech is to Galactica, but to Pegasus as well? It makes me think that the cylons did a lot of damage in the first war.
And yes, the girls are cute ;-)
The picture of Zoe topless with the apple being eaten (obvious tribute to Eve in Genesis) is currently my desktop wallpaper. :D
The mono-theists are interesting. We'd always assumed that the cylon's mono-theism came from the Five, but now I'm wondering.
In one of the last episodes IIRC Galen explained the one god was a Centurion belief.
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Also, does anyone notice not only how advanced the tech is to Galactica, but to Pegasus as well? It makes me think that the cylons did a lot of damage in the first war.
Well, don't forget, that after the first war the Colonies explicitly dumbed down their technology to prevent remote intrusion and control by the Cylons.
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Also, does anyone notice not only how advanced the tech is to Galactica, but to Pegasus as well? It makes me think that the cylons did a lot of damage in the first war.Well, don't forget, that after the first war the Colonies explicitly dumbed down their technology to prevent remote intrusion and control by the Cylons.
I know, but I'd think with Pegasus being the pride of the fleet, they'd have built her to 'Caprica' level tech, if they could. After all, that's what frakked the fleet in the miniseries, was the fleet was all networked all over again.
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I'm loving this show and am bummed there's no new episode tonight. I particularly like the way they have the human actress playing Zoe appear as the robot body in so many scenes. It does a great job of highlighting the disparity between how the humans perceive/treat her as a machine and how she sees herself as a person.
Great show.
Agreed.
Poor Zoe-A, having to watch her parents...
Yeah... I thought the same thing when I saw that. *shudder*
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This is getting interesting.
I'm wondering how Zoe's mom would handle Zoe-A being 'alive'? And damn that actress is cute. Or I'm a dirty old man, or both. :-)
I also wonder who the cylons are being built to fight? I mean we can safely assume from BSG that there are no aliens in this universe, so I'd assume Caprica is building it to 'defend' themselves from other colonies (Gemmenon maybe?).
I would find it ironic if the Centurians are created, then other colonies create them, they fight wars and then the cylons interpret their programming that the best way to 'defend humanity' is to unite the colonials against an outside foe. They 'rebel' uniting the colonies and fight against them, logically justifying the loss of life as breaking a few eggs to defend the omlett.
Then the 5 arrive...
With tonights episode I picked up a definite Final Fantasy vibe.
shhhh! haven't watched the mid-season finale yet. Probably won't get to it until Monday. :P
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Watched it Saturday, read the blog Sunday.
Two musical notes
As an aside, I e-mailed Bear McCreary's staff and got an answer back the same day. No sheet music for sale yet. Bummer. I want Boomer's Theme.