What if optimizers were foolish enough to destroy each other completely...har-har-har!
Ahh it's all a mental math exercise for them. Let the optomizers play. It engages a certain mindset, I just wish some of them could be a little more communicatively graceful sometimes.
Gish is the new Drittz.
Maybe Fryer would crunch up a PrC around the old 1st edition Ranger?
Edit: Never mind. They want something more powerful & crunchy than an Eldritch Knight with minimal (no) drawbacks... munchkins on steroids.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
OH, I wasn't really wishing that...it's just that in this context, the conversation between George and Henry struck me as having new humor.
What's so funny? I think that's an awesome suggestion...
Yes it is. That is what makes it so funny.
I could liven up their thread by suggesting they switch to 4e and play a swordmage...
I'm doing it right now.
Given Fryer's and my creation of our own personal hell some time back, I now want my own soul avatar, too...dangit, Gary needs to add more new avatars!
EDIT: Is this where I say
And it's already got a response. Heh.
*applause*
And so the derangement begins. You should see my reply.
And of course, a guy who'd wound a girl is a bassturd.
Thank you, I'm glad someone will stand up for my honor. :)
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What's interesting is, looking at the 4e swordmage could answer a lot of their questions about how such a class could be done. Basically, build it from the ground up with custom spells that don't overpower the class.
Agreed, but who has that kind of time? The blademage will have a limited spell selection drawn from the Sorcerer/wizard spell list.
I think we killed it.
I predict it will be a recurring rash...
IH, we already established that Callous Jack was the guilty party.
Yep, Fryer, exactly.
He, he, he, classic.
The game has a long tradition, dating all the way back to the Red Box which is where I first started playing, that arcane magic and armor don't mix. So I guess the question then becomes, do you want to stick with tradition or do you want a wizard that is really just a cleric with the serial numbers filled off.
And no heavy armor!
;P
I hope someone signed a "No extreme measures" order, so that there will be no resuscitation.
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I hope someone signed a "No extreme measures" order, so that there will be no resuscitation.
Oh there will be, I am jsut at work and don't feel liek tryign to work out the math here to explain why I think this is not the best idea. That being said yes you can do so and yes you can use a Bard or a Multiclass fighter Wizard to do it.
But SIgh
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo...................
Well, maybe it could die of "authoritative answer."
It is possible for the truth to have no effect. :'(
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Well a gish has always ben a multiclass fighter/wizard, a Githyanki fighter/wizard.
Which is why I'm adopting the term Spellthane. Because 'A-bard-with-different-spelllists-and-class-abilities' takes too long to post, and I'm uncomfortable pointing to my own work as an example too much.
I'm pretty sure I ran onto "swordmage" long before 4e...no pun intended.
Well a gish has always ben a multiclass fighter/wizard, a Githyanki fighter/wizard.Which is why I'm adopting the term Spellthane. Because 'A-bard-with-different-spelllists-and-class-abilities' takes too long to post, and I'm uncomfortable pointing to my own work as an example too much.
I like that name. Stamp of approval.
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I like that name. Stamp of approval.Well a gish has always ben a multiclass fighter/wizard, a Githyanki fighter/wizard.Which is why I'm adopting the term Spellthane. Because 'A-bard-with-different-spelllists-and-class-abilities' takes too long to post, and I'm uncomfortable pointing to my own work as an example too much.
I can't take credit for it, but I don't remember who coined it.
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Do you ever feel like some people just need to be pummeled>
Well, the word has a very specific meaning. People try to make a specific word mean general stuff. Deserves to be made fun of, frankly.This is wrong. The word had a very specific meaning, which people then adapted to a more general meaning, and you know what? That's how language works. Words don't have implicit meanings. They have the meanings they're ascribed. And a game designer (in an open-ended gaming system that encourages the development of custom home-content) deciding that "gish" means "githyanki fighter/wizard" doesn't have the same authority that a legion of players of the game have when they decide that it means "arcane sword-wielder of virtually any sort."
The fact that you know what people intend when they say "gish" means that the definition of the word that they intended has entered the public consciousness within this subculture of language-users, and the public consciousness always has final say on the meaning of a word. Why do you think Webster's prints new editions? New words are born and old words die or change meaning.
Now, let's get one thing straight: I don't like the word either, but I also don't like the words "pimple," "pantaloon," or "bonobo." That doesn't mean I don't know what they mean or that I feel the need to enter into asinine semantics discussions every time I hear or use them. For the sake of practicality I use the words that most directly get me from concept to comprehension. That's how language works.
Can we just end the pointless debate and heckling about the meaning of this word? Those of you who think the word is being misused shouldn't be speaking English anyway. There isn't a word in our language that hasn't evolved from something else.
If you stare at that block for a while and let your eyes drift out of focus there's a fish in the center.
That said, I have to agree with Benn Roe. Sorry guys but he's right. Words evolve.
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Some people:
Now look at the Wizard. Do they were armor? The only thing you have proven is that Elves should have a racial trait that lets elves wear armor when casting. Elves aren't a class anymore, and your comparison is like comparing apples and watermelons.The game has a long tradition, dating all the way back to the Red Box which is where I first started playing, that arcane magic and armor don't mix. So I guess the question then becomes, do you want to stick with tradition or do you want a wizard that is really just a cleric with the serial numbers filled off.Incorrect. I'm reading the Players Manual from the red box right now, and it plainly states that elves can both wear any armor and cast magic-user (arcane) spells. The Men & Monsters booklet from the original white box says the same thing. Full-plate-wearing arcane casters have been in the game since the very beginning.
