Gary Teter
Senior Software Developer
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Today we're introducing a new tool that you can use to help alert Paizo staff to problematic posts on our messageboards. Next to the "reply" link, you'll see a new "flag" link. If you see a post that breaks our messageboards guidelines, please click the link and let us know. You'll get a drop-down menu where you can select the reason you're flagging the post, with these options:
- Personal insult/abusive
- Offensive/sexist/racist content
- Copyright/intellectual property infringement
- Breaks other guidelines
- Double post
- Needs spoiler tag
- BBCode markup/display problem
- Just wanted to try the flagging system
When you flag a post, you'll bring it to the attention of Paizo staff, and we'll figure out what we want to do about it. (If we think the post is fine, we'll do nothing.)
This is not a Slashdot-style karma system, nor is it a Digg-style up/downvoting system. It's not automatic, and it's not democratic -- there is no threshold whereby a particular number of flags will cause a post to get deleted or a community member to be given a timeout.
We'll also never post lists of top-flagged posts, top-flagged posters or people who flag the most posts. We may use this kind of data internally to guide our decisions, but we do not want this system to be gamed -- we want it to be useful.
A suggestion: If you flag a post, leave it at that. Posting "I totally flagged your post, dude," won't help the conversation. I know it's hard to avoid responding when someone's just said something outrageously offensive, but we'll see it if you flag it, and we'll take care of it if we need to.
I think 99.9 percent of the conversation on our messageboards is good stuff. This tool will help us find the .1 percent that isn't.
Mark Moreland
Director of Brand Strategy
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Actually I'm kind of bummed out over the new expressly PC Paizo boards.
I don't think they were ever un-PC, at least on the whole. There were some threads and posts that veered far into hateful and bigoted speech but for the most part, I think that people's opinions have been and will continue to be fair game. But gay bashing or racism were never allowed, so no change there.
| therealthom |
therealthom wrote:Actually I'm kind of bummed out over the new expressly PC Paizo boards.I don't think they were ever un-PC, at least on the whole. There were some threads and posts that veered far into hateful and bigoted speech but for the most part, I think that people's opinions have been and will continue to be fair game. But gay bashing or racism were never allowed, so no change there.
I'd agree by and large the boards here are usually civil with exceptions. That's why it's so disappointing that Paizo feels they must post explicit guidelines and introduce the flagging system. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, if they didn't feel it was thrust upon them.
| Kruelaid |
yoda8myhead wrote:I'd agree by and large the boards here are usually civil with exceptions. That's why it's so disappointing that Paizo feels they must post explicit guidelines and introduce the flagging system. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, if they didn't feel it was thrust upon them.therealthom wrote:Actually I'm kind of bummed out over the new expressly PC Paizo boards.I don't think they were ever un-PC, at least on the whole. There were some threads and posts that veered far into hateful and bigoted speech but for the most part, I think that people's opinions have been and will continue to be fair game. But gay bashing or racism were never allowed, so no change there.
The way I see it they are:
(1) Asking us to help them moderate. This system means they don't have to prowl the boards looking for abuse.
and
(2) Putting some faith in us. This tells me that they trust us to judge for ourselves what they need to look at and what they don't.
So the way I see it, this isn't in any way a move toward being more PC, or toward more control of what we're posting. It's just taking the current policies and deploying them more efficiently.
| therealthom |
The way I see it they are:(1) Asking us to help them moderate. This system means they don't have to prowl the boards looking for abuse.
and
(2) Putting some faith in us. This tells me that they trust us to judge for ourselves what they need to look at and what they don't.
So the way I see it, this isn't in any way a move toward being more PC, or toward more control of what we're posting. It's just taking the current policies and deploying them more efficiently.
Yeah, I see your point. Just -- do we really need to be told this?
Do not use profanity or vulgar speech;
Do not make bigoted, hateful, or racially insensitive statements;
Do not defame, abuse, stalk, harass, or threaten others;
Do not advocate illegal activities or discuss them with intent to commit them;
Do not post any content that infringes and/or violates any patent, trademark, copyright, or other proprietary right of any third party.
*despair*
That and the whole 4E vitriol thing left me pretty sceptical of anyone's use of "fun". :)
Mikaze
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A suggestion: If you flag a post, leave it at that. Posting "I totally flagged your post, dude," won't help the conversation. I know it's hard to avoid responding when someone's just said something outrageously offensive, but we'll see it if you flag it, and we'll take care of it if we need to.
Totally hoping everyone takes this to heart.
And I'm proud of myself for refraining from flagging the opening post.
Even if it's just because everyone has beaten me to the punch.
DitheringFool
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You can only ever flag a post once, unless you're using the "just trying out the flagging system" reason. If you refresh the page you'll see the "flagged" thing go away on those.
Does that constitute dabbling or all-out flag experimentation?
Sebastian
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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Must...resist...urge...to flag every post ever written...by those...on my...enemies list...
Seriously though, I think I should get a prize when I get to the point where I have more flags than posts. I'm not asking for anything big, just the right to change the official pronounciation of Paizo to Pay-zoh, which is how I say it.
Pie-Zoh just makes me hungry.