Strongholds in Pathfinder


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So I'm getting ideas fro my campaign building up here, going to make a small island based world that the PCs will wonder around in and deal with Grell and Gricks and Kobolds and the like, and at some point I'd like for them to be able to get more involved in the economics and political dealings of society. One of the things I'd like to do would to allow them a chance to get some property to either build with or deal with. I'm not sure if I'm thinking small keep or moderate sized inn or what, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this with Pathfinder yet, if there are considerations for rules and the like, general information as such.

I know 3rd edition kind of keep away from that kind of scale, but the leadership feat still exists and those followers need something to do.

Anyone have any advice for Strongholds in the PathfinderRPG?


My friend, I have.

There is a little feat on the 3.0 book Stronghold Builder's Guide. I'm not at home now to take a closer look at the book, and I don't even know if it's SRD (it's of no campaign setting, so it should be), but I remember that with the feat you gained something like this:

Every time you gained a level, you gained a set amount of gold. I don't remember the values, but it's MUCH gold. The problem is that you only could use this gold to construction, improvement or maintenance of a stronghold (any building is stronghold in this case). This helped in two ways: First, the player hadn't to spend his "adventure gold", that you usually uses to buy magic items, and second, he couldn't use this extra money to inflate his power.

This probably won't ever reach PF (i don't see why it should), but if you could, I would recomend a copy of Stronghold Builder's Guide.

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Well I do still have that particular book. I was curious if there had been anything new announced with the Pathfinder RPG but if that's how it'll work then I'll stick with that.

I'm always a bit leery using a 3.0 book in a 3.5+ world though, never know what might be wonky in the process. :)

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A book that talks about PC strongholds, how they work, and how to handle things like PC businesses, town building, castle management, and the like is a great idea for a book (it's been done many times before, after all!) but those rules won't be in the initial Pathfinder RPG. Eventually, I suspect we'll do something along these lines, but for now I'd say that the Stronghold Builder's Guide is one of the better places to go for this info, as is the DMG 2. We've been sprinkling in alternate rules for things like running businesses and the like in Pathfinder here and there too.

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Just curious about it is all. It used to be a big part of older systems of D&D and it would be nice to see at least something come out for it eventually.

Owning and running businesses would be radically awesome. They usually make decent front for adventurers and give you more things to work with as a DM.

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You might want to look at the Forgotten realms supplement Power of Faerun. It has rules for running campaigns where the PC's are true leaders in the campaign world be it leaders of temples, guildmasters, army generals, or members of a royal court. It's pretty setting neutral for a FR book IMO.

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