Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?
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Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?
I got this D&D mini in a set and used it for him as is. I should've taken the time to alter it a little but it did the job admirably.
Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?
Why yes,
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/14333
Thanks, so much. The Reaper mini is perfect, but I might go with the other just because it doesn't require painting.
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The bullywugs had also captured the Genasi (who had wavy hair, moving like seaweed under water) and Drevoraz shaved him with his cutlass.
Needless to say they didn't keep him alive :-)"So Hanun seized David's men, shaved off half of each man's beard, cut off their garments in the middle at the buttocks, and sent them away." -2 Samuel 10:4
Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today!
That would be a suitable punishment for a group of dwarven PCs. A fate worse than death perhaps.
Than you for being in a weird mood.
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After that, I'll turn my attention to finding a good Malcanthet. I have not been impressed so far with the succubi I've come across. I might just have to find a non-demonic female and put wings on her - I do have some spare demon wings that would work.
You'll find some miniature recommendations for Malcanthet, Demogorgon, and Orcus (plus some others) on this thread. (Some of the recommendations are hidden behind spoiler warnings, as that thread is not for Savage Tide.
Apparently the Malcanthet one is as "official" as one can get, without intruding on WotC's intellectual property.
Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?Why yes,
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/14333
While I do like that miniature, I would have thought it to be a bit too ... pretty ... to be Vanthus (especially when compared with the illustrations in Dungeon).
Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?I got this D&D mini in a set and used it for him as is. I should've taken the time to alter it a little but it did the job admirably.
That one looks like a good Vanthus, but how big is it? (I have trouble estimating the size from the picture alone.)
While I do like that miniature, I would have thought it to be a bit too ... pretty ... to be Vanthus (especially when compared with the illustrations in Dungeon).
I understand what you mean, and agree, I haven't bought it yet so I may check out the DoD miniature.
While I do like that miniature, I would have thought it to be a bit too ... pretty ... to be Vanthus (especially when compared with the illustrations in Dungeon).If you're like me and don't like painting, you could start with a Corrupted Priest from Mage Knight Sinister.
While the head detail wasn't too clear in the picture, it looks like a good choice if one's going for Vanthus as a sinister spellcaster (as opposed to a melee monster).
I understand what you mean, and agree, I haven't bought it yet so I may check out the DoD miniature.While I do like that miniature, I would have thought it to be a bit too ... pretty ... to be Vanthus (especially when compared with the illustrations in Dungeon).
Don't let me stop you from getting that pretty incubus! :)
(I always think that there is a dearth of that sort of male miniature, especially when compared to a definite surplus of the scantily-clad succubi. If they're clad at all.)
I understand what you mean, and agree, I haven't bought it yet so I may check out the DoD miniature.While I do like that miniature, I would have thought it to be a bit too ... pretty ... to be Vanthus (especially when compared with the illustrations in Dungeon).
Don't let me stop you from getting that pretty incubus! :)
(I always think that there is a dearth of that sort of male miniature, especially when compared to a definite surplus of the scantily-clad succubi. If they're clad at all.)
Wait, you can get succubi with clothes on?[/sarcasm]
I probably will get that incubus, and will find a use for it, it looks like it could be half-fiend, half-celesial. Now THAT would be an interesting PC/NPC if a weak one.
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I probably will get that incubus, and will find a use for it, it looks like it could be half-fiend, half-celesial. Now THAT would be an interesting PC/NPC if a weak one.
(Getting a bit off-topic here!)
How would you do that game mechanics-wise? Take a celestial and add the half-fiend template, or vice versa? And do you have a particular celestial or fiend in mind as the base creature?
I'm all of a sudden thinking of the son of a succubus and a solar ... maybe adding the half-celestial to the succubus ... or would adding the half-fiend to the solar make more sense? (It might explain the batlike wings.)
Depending on the CR wanted, I guess that one could also go for a deva parent instead of a solar.
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I probably will get that incubus, and will find a use for it, it looks like it could be half-fiend, half-celesial. Now THAT would be an interesting PC/NPC if a weak one.
(Getting a bit off-topic here!)
How would you do that game mechanics-wise? Take a celestial and add the half-fiend template, or vice versa? And do you have a particular celestial or fiend in mind as the base creature?
I'm all of a sudden thinking of the son of a succubus and a solar ... maybe adding the half-celestial to the succubus ... or would adding the half-fiend to the solar make more sense? (It might explain the batlike wings.)
Depending on the CR wanted, I guess that one could also go for a deva parent instead of a solar.
It would be the child of a celestial human and a fiendish human, making it a human with the half fiend template and the half celestial template. I'm thinking of it being the child of a male celestial paladin bedded by a female fiendish rogue/bard/other charisma based class.
Now what would then be fun is if you have twins, one that clearly showed his fiendish heritage with tail, bat wings, dark hair, horns, but had a good alignment, and one that looked like a radiant, shining angel but was actually hideously evil.
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I probably will get that incubus, and will find a use for it, it looks like it could be half-fiend, half-celesial. Now THAT would be an interesting PC/NPC if a weak one.
(Getting a bit off-topic here!)
How would you do that game mechanics-wise? Take a celestial and add the half-fiend template, or vice versa? And do you have a particular celestial or fiend in mind as the base creature?
I'm all of a sudden thinking of the son of a succubus and a solar ... maybe adding the half-celestial to the succubus ... or would adding the half-fiend to the solar make more sense? (It might explain the batlike wings.)
Depending on the CR wanted, I guess that one could also go for a deva parent instead of a solar.
It would be the child of a celestial human and a fiendish human, making it a human with the half fiend template and the half celestial template. I'm thinking of it being the child of a male celestial paladin bedded by a female fiendish rogue/bard/other charisma based class.
Now what would then be fun is if you have twins, one that clearly showed his fiendish heritage with tail, bat wings, dark hair, horns, but had a good alignment, and one that looked like a radiant, shining angel but was actually hideously evil.
That last would be an interesting idea from a story/role-playing point of view, particularly if in some situations the two siblings were indistinguishable (identical voices?).
(Nitpicking alert!) As to the actual parentage, I'm not sure that one can use the celestial/fiendish human angle. If I recall correctly, the half-celestial/-fiend templates require a true celestial/fiend to be the one parent, not just a human whose family have lived on the celestial/fiendish planes for who knows how long.
As an alternative, may I suggest a human mother who (for whatever reasons) produced two children at the same time - from two different fathers (respectively a celestial and a fiend). I understand that such things can happen in real life (the bit about two different fathers).
Yet another alternative is the plot device excuse - some great blessing/curse results in a pregnant woman's offspring being somehow changed. (I think that there were some spells to that effect in the Book of Erotic Fantasy.)
Actually I'm working on an adventure or side adventure that hopefully takes place around Enemies of My Enemy that's main protagonist is a Essentially a Demon/Angel Hybrid based off of the Dreamblade mini Marian, Bound to Pain Who is going to be the focus of "proving" the parties selves to Malcanthet or Any one of the other Major Players the Pcs need to convince. So yea youre not alone in thinking about how to go about it. I probably will go about adding either the "half" templates to one creature or to just build from the ground up as an outsider.... Haven't yet decided.
Actually I'm working on an adventure or side adventure that hopefully takes place around Enemies of My Enemy that's main protagonist is a Essentially a Demon/Angel Hybrid based off of the Dreamblade mini Marian, Bound to Pain Who is going to be the focus of "proving" the parties selves to Malcanthet or Any one of the other Major Players the Pcs need to convince. So yea youre not alone in thinking about how to go about it. I probably will go about adding either the "half" templates to one creature or to just build from the ground up as an outsider.... Haven't yet decided.
That's another cool miniature. Although it looks as though the "angelic" portion is in the minority, what with being represented by only one feathery wing!
By the way, since I already have miniatures for both Malcanthet and Orcus, plus a Demogorgon on the way, does anyone have any suggestions for Obox-Ob? It's not exactly a regular miniature in anyone's collection ...
it looks like a good choice if one's going for Vanthus as a sinister spellcaster (as opposed to a melee monster).
I figured people would modify it (since we're unlikely to find a miniature armed as Vanthus is described anyway). Indeed, I have a much easier time gluing on different weapons than I do painting a miniature, but I prefer to do this with 10 to 49 cent minis rather than DDM rares.
Another option is a modified MageKnight2 Vampire Archer, especially for the undead Vanthus.
... or just pluck the wings off one of these miniatures and hot-glue them to a different figure. With the price of some miniatures, I don't stress chopping them up.
Good advice all round, but I'm leaving the chopping and glueing to those who are more manually dextrous than I am! :)
EDIT: Despite having just said that, I can recommend this one for Olangru and any other Bar-lgura demons - after removing the wings!
I also found a decent Chasme demon, but I don't recollect any of them in the Savage Tide adventure path so I'm not linking it unless requested.
By the way, since I already have miniatures for both Malcanthet and Orcus, plus a Demogorgon on the way, does anyone have any suggestions for Obox-Ob? It's not exactly a regular miniature in anyone's collection ...I can direct you to a suitable large aspect-sized one, but you probably want a huge one.
Your best bet is to buy a (huge sized) scorpion toy and hot glue some extra bits onto it (maybe cut up some of your cheap zombie-type miniatures).
It's too bad WotC never came out with a huge DDM centipede or Remorhaz.
Well, I'd be happy to take a look at even the size Large version. One can always put it on a paper counter which indicates that it fills a larger area than the actual mini.
EDIT: Despite having just said that, I can recommend this one for Olangru and any other Bar-lgura demons - after removing the wings!Isn't that supposed to be a Nalfeshnee? It looks larger than medium sized.
I've been using DDM War Apes to represent Bar-lgura demons.
btw: chopping and gluing metal is much more difficult than plastic.
Don't I know that - I actually broke an old pair of pliers on a metal miniature once! :)
As for the Bar-lgura vs. Nalfeshnee business, I intend to use this one for the Nalfeshnee, as it contains more of the ape/boar mix in its features.
Regarding the sizes of the various minis, I honestly don't know. I've only just found the "Bar-lgura" on the Reaper site, and the "Nalfeshnee" which I've ordered has not yet arrived at my FLGS. If price is any indication, the "Nalfeshnee" is six dollars more than the "Bar-lgura".
Well, I'd be happy to take a look at even the size Large version. One can always put it on a paper counter which indicates that it fills a larger area than the actual mini.Note: A forum glitch erased a long reply to you (with all sorts of links) so...
I've been using this:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p100208.htmlBut these might work also:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p123881.html
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p107076.html
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p183431.htmlBut they would probably be visually un-stunning as a huge creature. Better to just use a creepy-crawly type toy or print out a 3"x3" copy of this:
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/fc1_gallery/98461.jpgThe players probably shouldn't be looking at Obox-ob anyway...
Thank you for the help! My Savage Tide campaign is still quite a way off (too many other gaming irons in the fire right now), but I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
I also found a decent Chasme demon, but I don't recollect any of them in the Savage Tide adventure path so I'm not linking it unless requested.
Actually they are in the STAP
And I ended up getting These since they were dirt cheap and worked well...
I also found a decent Chasme demon, but I don't recollect any of them in the Savage Tide adventure path so I'm not linking it unless requested.
Actually they are in the STAP ** spoiler omitted **
And I ended up getting These since they were dirt cheap and worked well...
Thanks for the link.
Of course I only realised that Chasme were in WoD _after_ the edit deadline was long past! But just to be complete, here is the link for a nifty Chasme demon.
(As you've most likely figured out by now, I'm quite the Reaper fan!) :)
I also found a decent Chasme demon, but I don't recollect any of them in the Savage Tide adventure path so I'm not linking it unless requested.
Actually they are in the STAP ** spoiler omitted **
And I ended up getting These since they were dirt cheap and worked well...
Thanks for the link.
Of course I only realised that Chasme were in WoD _after_ the edit deadline was long past! But just to be complete, here is the link for a nifty Chasme demon.
(As you've most likely figured out by now, I'm quite the Reaper fan!) :)
Can't seem to get to it from your link, it just takes me to the default reaper site. And I agree that Reaper minis is awesome, but as I said before I paint like a Blind Monkey on Blood pressure medication and Viagra, so pre painted stuff works better for me especially when I got 8 for $2 total on ebay. So it covers my needs and looks decent since they match. If I had the ability to paint I would have never picked up any pre paints, but alas it is the fate of my crew. That and I am addicted to collecting so I have WAY too many plastics as is. :P
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Stupid board ate my post...
I saw that Malcanthet fig you guys are all pointing to, but I can't get past that headpiece she's wearing. To me it says less "Queen of the Succubi" and more "Grand Poobah of Water Buffalo". So I ended up going with a Reaper vampiress (this one: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02990 )and putting demonic wings from a reaper pack on her. I also have a tail I could give her, but opted not to for personal aesthetic reasons. :)
She's still a work in progress, but I'll post pics of her when she's done. In fact, I promised to post pics of several of my figs from this campaign on here a few weeks ago and haven't - I should probably get on that!
For Vanthus, I went with this Reaper fig: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02729 again switching out those wings for big wings from the demon wing pack.
Those demon wings are sold in a pack of 4 like so: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03182 I used the biggest set on Vanthus, and the on in the top left on Malcanthet.
I'll see if I can get those pics done and on this weekend. Time's fun when you're having flies, eh?!
Can't seem to get to it from your link, it just takes me to the default reaper site. And I agree that Reaper minis is awesome, but as I said before I paint like a Blind Monkey on Blood pressure medication and Viagra, so pre painted stuff works better for me especially when I got 8 for $2 total on ebay. So it covers my needs and looks decent since they match. If I had the ability to paint I would have never picked up any pre paints, but alas it is the fate of my crew. That and I am addicted to collecting so I have WAY too many plastics as is. :PThanks for the link.
Of course I only realised that Chasme were in WoD _after_ the edit deadline was long past! But just to be complete, here is the link for a nifty Chasme demon.
(As you've most likely figured out by now, I'm quite the Reaper fan!) :)
What a mental image ...
That's odd, I just tried the link and it worked. Maybe it was a temporary glitch at Reaper's site? Anyway, just input the product number (02744) in their Figure Finder and it'll pop up.
Regarding painting, I leave that for the experts too. Luckily for me there is a miniature painting enthusiast in one of my groups (he's into tabletop armies of various sorts, but enjoys painting the "singletons" that I pass on to him), plus a dilettante or two. I just have to make sure that they don't paint a "coming attraction" too close to the mini's "opening night"! :)
Collecting - yeah, I suffer from that mania too. One reason why I actually stick with the metal stuff is so that I don't buy too many (they're often more expensive, and I don't have the space to store too much). So only the main opponents get the miniature treatment, and one each of the hench-monster types. For example, if there are five Vrocks, I'll put one Vrock mini on the mat and use appropriately marked counters for the other four. Yes, it doesn't look as good overall on the battlemat, but at least it gives a better impression of the opposition than using only counters does.
Stupid board ate my post...
I saw that Malcanthet fig you guys are all pointing to, but I can't get past that headpiece she's wearing. To me it says less "Queen of the Succubi" and more "Grand Poobah of Water Buffalo". So I ended up going with a Reaper vampiress (this one: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02990 )and putting demonic wings from a reaper pack on her. I also have a tail I could give her, but opted not to for personal aesthetic reasons. :)
She's still a work in progress, but I'll post pics of her when she's done. In fact, I promised to post pics of several of my figs from this campaign on here a few weeks ago and haven't - I should probably get on that!
For Vanthus, I went with this Reaper fig: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02729 again switching out those wings for big wings from the demon wing pack.
Those demon wings are sold in a pack of 4 like so: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03182 I used the biggest set on Vanthus, and the on in the top left on Malcanthet.
I'll see if I can get those pics done and on this weekend. Time's fun when you're having flies, eh?!
Good choice for Vanthus! I was looking at that one and thinking that there was potential there.
As for Malcanthet, I'm a bit with you on the headpiece thing, but that was how she was depicted in Dragon and Dungeon. I think that the FC1 picture was a bit more low-key in many ways - like more clothes - but she _still_ had the "Hathor" horns.
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OK I made a page linking to the minis I'm using in Savage Tide. I will add a disclaimer that while I'm not a good painter or even a great one, these pictures are blown up above actual size and that makes the minis look much WORSE than they do IRL, to me anyway. There were some problem areas on these guys that I'm discovering as I take pictures of them, which is not fun.
I'll add more figs as their painting progress is complete. I have a few more done that aren't there, too, but my camera battery was dead, so they'll be added in time as well.
http://www.stargazer-productions.com/savagetide.htm
Eventually I'll add exact mini manufacturer codes and such, but that's all I've got time to do today. Enjoy, and again, be gentle on the paining critiques...I swear they look better than that in person. :)
OK I made a page linking to the minis I'm using in Savage Tide. I will add a disclaimer that while I'm not a good painter or even a great one, these pictures are blown up above actual size and that makes the minis look much WORSE than they do IRL, to me anyway. There were some problem areas on these guys that I'm discovering as I take pictures of them, which is not fun.
I'll add more figs as their painting progress is complete. I have a few more done that aren't there, too, but my camera battery was dead, so they'll be added in time as well.
http://www.stargazer-productions.com/savagetide.htm
Eventually I'll add exact mini manufacturer codes and such, but that's all I've got time to do today. Enjoy, and again, be gentle on the paining critiques...I swear they look better than that in person. :)
I think your too hard on yourself. While not "professional" quality they are really good from my point of view, and if I could paint as good as you I would be doing so instead of just using pre painted plastics....
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Well thank you. I think generally I do think of myself as a decent painter, but seeing pics of my work blown up bigger than life size was not an ego booster. :)
Anyway, the point wasn't so much my painting skill, or lack thereof, but helping give an idea of what figures I'm using for each PC and NPC. I have more coming, just finished up my "Charon" and his boat tonight, for instance, and the "new" Lavinia is very nearly done as well.
I'm starting to think maybe I should take photos before doing final touch up work! :)
Do any of you use any minis for the Olman? and if so which do you use? Thanks.
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Do any of you use any minis for the Olman? and if so which do you use? Thanks.
I just had the Olman (Maztican in our game - we play in the Realms) represented by pre-painted D&D humanoids, so nothing terribly accurate. I use those for all "random fill-in NPCs".
Sorry, I know that's not very helpful!
Do any of you use any minis for the Olman? and if so which do you use? Thanks.There shouldn't be too much call for Olmans miniatures (since the PC's shouldn't be fighting them), but I've used DDM's Dragon Totem Hero for Olman cohorts (plus I had some islander figures from a few King Kong playsets)
Some other options:
this (best option, imo)
I have a few of those and I find they work well for Olmans in the few scenerios in which the pcs had to save a few warriors from death and such, and in all honesty I use them for tribal warriors whenever a scenerio calls for them, such as one sidequest in which an Olman witchdoctor who hates Farshore must be appeased (for VP of course) and a few natives ARE harmed in the making of this quest.... Hey even the bad seeds sometimes get henchman who are likewise bad or mislead, the fun part is figuring out who is who. I'm still lost on what to do for Skinwalkers and a few of the stranger demons, probably have to "proxy" them with tokens or other suitable size minis. My big problem players here are the Mother of all and assassin vines (the vines are really more of an environmental hazard when they come into play), Masher, Terror Birds, Lemurian Golem, Kopru, Aboleths, Brain collector (large and Huge), Kopru Behemoths, the Bilewretch, Julajimus (Huge baboon thing), the orlath demon, and pretty much most of the creatures from Into The Maw and beyond as they get into no minies made of these territory. Any ideas for any of these would be nice. :P
on a side note I have seriously considered replacing the Kopru with aquatic illithids, and since the Thoon Hulk mini is supposed to come out in the new set, maybe I'll get a few and they'll be the Large "Kopru"... just a thought
**(and on a side note, after looking at pictures of some of the minis I noticed, and maybe its just me, that the lolthtouched goblin reminds me alot of the pathfinder goblin.... I'm just saying)**
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Well, Reaper makes a "terror bird"...it's their "Axebeak, Prehistoric Bird", #03092. But I only painted up one of those due to time and money constraints. http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/axebeak/latest/03092 I'll get it onto that website I made in coming days (link a few posts back)
As for the Lemorian Golem, I used Reaper's Demonic Lasher, #02716. http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Lasher/latest/02716 It worked well because I am planning on using him for Demogorgon as well, and at the time we were at that location, he hadn't been painted yet, only primed white. So he looked like a big concrete statue! :)
For the Vine Horrors and Assassin Vines, I'll admit it - I used Green Construction paper cut out to the base sizes. Not very impressive, but it was cheap and easy, and got the job done. I even was able to number them so I could tell which vine had been summoned by which, so that I knew which to take off when the "parent" died.
Reaper also makes a fig that represents an Aboleth, I can't remember what it's called now. But it's big and expensive and I didn't want to mess with it. I don't remember what I used now - maybe a D&D minis bulette.
For the Kopru and Kopru behemoths, the closest I could do was members of my Warhammer Lizardman Army - "Kroxigors" for the Behemoths, and smaller "Saurus" models for the regular Kopru. Not entirely accurate, but I did have them and they were already painted, so it was good enough for me.
Say, any suggestiosn for Vanthus during the big battle of Farshore?
...thought I'd throw my choice out there:
Lots of goodies
You sir have compiled a very nice listing, I salute you... although I had already thought of the Bat guys the rest were amazingly close ideas. Good job!