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Liberty's Edge

I grew up in Liverpool (no, not that one; this one is in New South Wales, Australia), a suburban centre located about twenty kilometres south west of the centre of Sydney.

According to Wikipedia, it’s “renowned for its vast Housing Commission estates housing thousands of low-income families after the slum clearance and urban renewal programs in inner-city Sydney in the 1960s.”

It’s also home to the oldest Anglican Church in Australia and (apparently) the largest public lending library.

I now live in Leichhardt (located about 5 km from the Sydney city centre), sometimes considered Sydney’s “Little Italy” (although a lot of the Italian population has moved out of the area in the last twenty years or so, and local gourmands will tell you that better authentic Italian restaurants can be found in the nearby suburbs of Five Dock and Haberfield).

It’s known for its main street, Norton Street, and the dozens of cafes and restaurants found down its stretch and on nearby streets. Also known for a large annual Italian street festival and bikie gangs.

Although I only lived there for about four years, I have a soft spot for my former residence at Pyrmont, located 2km from the Sydney CBD. It is known for the Sydney Fish Markets, Star City Casino, the Power House Museum, and more recently the Ian Thorpe Aquatic Centre. Oh, and the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel.

Of course, I generally just tell people I’m from Sydney. Sydney is well known for having a nice harbour, a nice bridge across it, a nice opera house and being the city that should be the capital of Australia…

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My current town was once known as "America's Finest City."

Seriously. That was San Diego's motto.

But then we had that pension debacle thing and got an even better nickname: Enron by the Sea.

I think we're currently known for ComicCon. And being LA's getaway town. We're like Canada to L.A.'s U.S.


Koldoon wrote:

Otherwise it would be Chicopee (Where I actually live) ... which is not really known for much of anything (Unless you are a fan of utopian fiction, in which case the author of "Looking Backward" lived here.

- Ashavan

Hey we have a ski resort named after you! Well, more of a ski hill, or a mound, or... well, you can put skis on and sort of coast down this slope... oh never mind.


Wigan, England.

Famous for the canal pier, but mostly for the wonderful pie! Meat, Meat & Potato, Chicken & Mushroom, Steak, Cheese, Butter, Mince (No, the other kind), and whatever else you care to put in one...mmmm, pie :)

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waltero wrote:
Jonathan_Shade wrote:
Umm... It's Las Vegas. Does there need to be anything else said?
We know nothing of Vegas, because what happens there stays there.

Well, remember that "Your Vegas is showing". That's the new motto of the LVCVA.

But let's see -

Hoover Dam
Stratosphere Tower - The tallest free-standing structure in Nevada and the second-tallest free-standing structure in the United States west of the Mississippi River, after the Kennecott Smokestack in Magna, Utah.
"The Strip" - one of the only cities with a "light brigade" from the local power company that drives by all of the casinos looking for lights out.
Gaming/Gambling is legal
No open container law on "The Strip" for tourists
Brothels are legal about 100 miles out of town, but not in Vegas. Contrary to popular belief.
CDW's west coast warehouse [1m sq ft of warehouse space]
The Neon Junkyard [where all the lights and neon displays from old casinos are kept]
Nellis Air Force Base - First US Nuclear tests completed here.

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I was born and raised around New Orleans, which is known for food, Mardi Gras, and extremely deplorable heat and humidity - but not necessarily in that order.

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Somerset, Ohio

Home of Phil Sheridan Who did to Shenendoa Valley what General Sherman (who was born 15 miles away) did to Georgia. The oldest permanent Catholic church in Ohio and (until recently) the oldest Lutheran Church in Ohio both are here. Also home of the Clay Haus, a haunted restaurant, and the former county seat.

Silver Crusade

ummmm Ontario, OR is known for just about nothing really, other then it's the hometown of Eagles backup QB AJ FEELY. See, I told yah nothing :)

I guess you could say we have Oregon's largest prison, west of town.

RM


My still-for-a-while hometown was a birthplace of Karl Drais (inventor of precursor of bicycle) and Karl Benz (inventor of gasoline-powered automobile aka car...and Daimler was not too far from here either).

And this guy named Hertz invented electromagnetic waves while being in local university, and Edward Teller, father of hydrogen bomb, graduated from the same, so the town's contribution to modern life is in no way insignificant.

Also, the town was founded because the founder saw it in a dream.

For those of you too lazy to google/wiki it, I am talking about Karlsruhe, Germany.

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Pete Whalley wrote:

Wigan, England.

Famous for the canal pier, but mostly for the wonderful pie! Meat, Meat & Potato, Chicken & Mushroom, Steak, Cheese, Butter, Mince (No, the other kind), and whatever else you care to put in one...mmmm, pie :)

You should really head over to the recipe box thread and post some of those recipes up there.

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Susan Draconis wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

Thats where Im from! Representing the Glendale! Moved into Inglewood and then into Hawthorne when I was a wee tyke then we got the hell outta there. My sister was born just a few blocks from Crenshaw Boulevard (west side!!)

Small world, dude. I grew up in Gardena. My parents still live in Torrance, in the corner made by Crenshaw Blvd and the 91. I even went to El Camino College for a few years and then ran away screaming.

<.< >.> I ain't never goin' back tho. Tired of the oil refinery blowing up.

Funny, that's the same reason I will never move back to Long Beach.

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Jonathan_Shade wrote:
Umm... It's Las Vegas. Does there need to be anything else said?

My brother-in-law and sister -in-law live in Vegas. Maybe you know them ;p


Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

Home of the POUTINE. Also known for The Montreal Canadiens hockey team, fabulous women, The Montreal Jazz Festival, delicious foods (like smoked meat sandwiches and Pizza), our many micro-breweries, our three local actors that win the JUTRAS (yeah, you heard me, the JUTRAS)every single year, our famous comedians that all do morning radio talk shows, our cheap imitations of American game shows but with only 20% of the buget...

It's the place where police have no right to ask you any questions if your doing something suspicious like driving a stolen car or running from a crime scene (because that is called racism here), where there is a seperatist movement that has somehow forgotten why they want to leave Canada (I think it's mostly folks that think that by leaving Canada they won't have to learn to speak english to be productive in today's world), a place where your employer pays access to the internet for everyone in the business but then blocks every site so you won't waste time on the net at work, a place that will make disappear anything you own that isn't double chained with heavy padlocks, a wonderful place where elections means you'll get bombarded by commercials that tell you who NOT to vote for, where the rich get richer and everyone else just gives them more money, where it's somehow more economic to save 10% on roads by patching them up every year rather than remaking them with good asphalt that'll last 20 years, a place where everyone says that everything is just fine.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

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Ultradan wrote:

Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

Home of the POUTINE. Also known for The Montreal Canadiens hockey team, fabulous women, The Montreal Jazz Festival, delicious foods (like smoked meat sandwiches and Pizza), our many micro-breweries, our three local actors that win the JUTRAS (yeah, you heard me, the JUTRAS)every single year, our famous comedians that all do morning radio talk shows, our cheap imitations of American game shows but with only 20% of the buget...

It's the place where police have no right to ask you any questions if your doing something suspicious like driving a stolen car or running from a crime scene (because that is called racism here), where there is a seperatist movement that has somehow forgotten why they want to leave Canada (I think it's mostly folks that think that by leaving Canada they won't have to learn to speak english to be productive in today's world), a place where your employer pays access to the internet for everyone in the business but then blocks every site so you won't waste time on the net at work, a place that will make disappear anything you own that isn't double chained with heavy padlocks, a wonderful place where elections means you'll get bombarded by commercials that tell you who NOT to vote for, where the rich get richer and everyone else just gives them more money, where it's somehow more economic to save 10% on roads by patching them up every year rather than remaking them with good asphalt that'll last 20 years, a place where everyone says that everything is just fine.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

Yeah, but don't you have underground shopping malls too?


Guadalajara:
-Tequila
-Mariachi
-Beautiful women
-Handcraft in pottery
-Lots of traditional Mexican Food
-Awesome birthplace of the Butterfrog. ;P

Scarab Sages

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My Hometown of Gravenhurst was, at one point, home to the top High School in all of Ontario. It also had the highest student to pregnant student capita.

It's also the place where Roosevelt was when World War II broke out.

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Ultradan wrote:

Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

Man I miss living in Montréal. I lived there for 15 years.


David Fryer wrote:
... Yeah, but don't you have underground shopping malls too?

Yup, the underground city... Something like 32 kilometers (that's 20 miles!) of underground shopping malls, stores, boutiques, train stations, cinemas, and offices. Some folks can leave their homes, make their way underground, take a train, go through a shopping mall and get to work without even having to set foot outside. You could walk endlessly if you happen not to know where you're going.

Try "Underground City, Montreal" on Wikipedia, and just marvel at the subterranean maze we have here.

Ultradan

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Ultradan wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
... Yeah, but don't you have underground shopping malls too?

Yup, the underground city... Something like 32 kilometers (that's 20 miles!) of underground shopping malls, stores, boutiques, train stations, cinemas, and offices. Some folks can leave their homes, make their way underground, take a train, go through a shopping mall and get to work without even having to set foot outside. You could walk endlessly if you happen not to know where you're going.

Try "Underground City, Montreal" on Wikipedia, and just marvel at the subterranean maze we have here.

Ultradan

Imagine the D&D LARPS we could have after hours ;p

Liberty's Edge

Modera wrote:
Ultradan wrote:

Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

Man I miss living in Montréal. I lived there for 15 years.

My friend's sister lives in Montreal. Graffiti park is awesome.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Modera wrote:
Ultradan wrote:

Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

Man I miss living in Montréal. I lived there for 15 years.
My friend's sister lives in Montreal. Graffiti park is awesome.

Okay, make that Shadowrun LARPs.


I was born in Enghien, near Paris (France). The town is small, and mainly known for its casino, conveniently close to the capital. But nothing to see there.

I lived my childhood near Chantilly, near Paris, known for its whipped cream, its castle and horse races. I knew how to ride a horse before a bike. The area is surrounded with magnificent forests.

At teenage my family moved to Montpellier, in the south of France. The town is more than 1000 years old, loaded with history (roman ruins, XIth century hostels, academy of medicine) and culture (dance, music, theater), and is only a few kilometers away from the sea. That's a small town (in US standards), but a great place to live (or to retire).

I also lived a few years in Avignon, known for its theater festival and the Palace of the Popes. But boooring.

And i am now living in the United States, in New York City, known, well, for many things, good or bad...


Verona, Wisconsin isn't that well known - other than being right next to Madison. But we've had a good run with recent Olympians like Casey FitzRandolph in speed skating and Neil Walking in swimming (tonight, my daughter starts swimming with the same aquatic club that Walker trained with).

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My hometown, Lakehurst, NJ, is the site of the Hindenburg disaster. "Oh, the humanity!"

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Ultradan wrote:

Montreal, Quebec... Also known as "The City That Never Sleeps But Isn't Quite Awake Yet Either"... LOL.

Home of the POUTINE. Also known for The Montreal Canadiens hockey team, fabulous women, The Montreal Jazz Festival, delicious foods (like smoked meat sandwiches and Pizza), our many micro-breweries, our three local actors that win the JUTRAS (yeah, you heard me, the JUTRAS)every single year, our famous comedians that all do morning radio talk shows, our cheap imitations of American game shows but with only 20% of the buget...

It's the place where police have no right to ask you any questions if your doing something suspicious like driving a stolen car or running from a crime scene (because that is called racism here), where there is a seperatist movement that has somehow forgotten why they want to leave Canada (I think it's mostly folks that think that by leaving Canada they won't have to learn to speak english to be productive in today's world), a place where your employer pays access to the internet for everyone in the business but then blocks every site so you won't waste time on the net at work, a place that will make disappear anything you own that isn't double chained with heavy padlocks, a wonderful place where elections means you'll get bombarded by commercials that tell you who NOT to vote for, where the rich get richer and everyone else just gives them more money, where it's somehow more economic to save 10% on roads by patching them up every year rather than remaking them with good asphalt that'll last 20 years, a place where everyone says that everything is just fine.

It's also the birthplace of Ultradan and William Shatner.

Visit at your own risk.

Ultradan

WOOO! gotta love Montreal. been pretty much everywhere else in Canada and none of it even comes close. the view coming in across one of the southeastern bridges at 2AM is a sight I hope I never forget. the lights, the skyline, the mountain. So beautiful.


The town I was born in, Brindisi, Italy, has existed for approximately 2400 years and the Via Appia (the street I lived on) connects directly to Rome. The poet Virgil died there and after the Punic wars, "Brundisium" was a major location of Roman naval power. It's a city with ferries to Greece and sits on the Adriatic Sea, a region known for its excellent seafood, and the Puglia region of Italy that it's in is known for its olive oil and wines. Oh, and pickpockets - lots of pickpockets because of the tourism/ferries. :P

The city I live in, Bend, Oregon isn't quite as interesting. It is however, the only city in the continental US (besides Portland) to have an extinct volcano within city limits. It's known for its tourists and retirees (a common joke here is "poverty with a view" because the people with money don't live here all the time). We have an outstanding collection of microbreweries (there are at least five just in the city). Since we're so close to the mountains and outdoor activities are no more than an hour's drive away, we're big on fishing, hunting, skiing, snowboarding, kayaking, cross country, hiking, biking, rock climbing, four wheeling, etc. The darker side of things is that the area is plagued by meth (and weed, but that's more of an Oregon thing) and property crimes.

Essentially, if you like outdoor activities and beer, it's not a bad place to live. Bring your money with you though. >.>


Binghamton, NY was the childhood home of Rod Serling and the inspiration (sometimes named in the script) for many of his famous "small town USA" weird stories.

Uh, also the home of cartoonist Johnny Hart, Bridget Moynihan, and the guy who played Mel on "The Dick Van D y k e Show." (Hey, the message board considers "d y k e" a dirty word, but not "dick". Huh.)

IBM was founded right next door in Endicott.

Today, Binghamton is the Empty Storefront Capital of the U.S. Our annual Empty Storefront Festival attracts dozens of winos, homeless men with yellow beards, and drug dealers from as far away as Brooklyn. Important events include the Shopping Cart Derby, Graffiti contest, and Standing on the Corner With Your Pants Down Screaming Obscenities at Imaginary People competition.

Also, spiedies.


Lilith wrote:
The darker side of things is that the area is plagued by meth

You mean to say that there are places that aren't?

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Lilith wrote:
The darker side of things is that the area is plagued by meth
You mean to say that there are places that aren't?

That's what U.S. News and World Reports does not mention. Cedar city is the meth capital of Utah.

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Andrew Crossett wrote:


Also, spiedies.

what's in the marinade? We have a street festival here every July, and I bet I could make a killing selling them.


David Fryer wrote:
what's in the marinade? We have a street festival here every July, and I bet I could make a killing selling them.

Here's a recipe. But this is one of those sauces where people come up with their own "secret formula," like chili or barbecue sauce.

Lupo's is pretty much the gold standard. You might want to order a couple bottles and try to match the taste as closely as possible.

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Andrew Crossett wrote:

...

Also, spiedies.

looks familiar...

I'll just stick with the Souvlaki that La Belle Provence makes. mmm, pork (or chicken) chunks on a skewer.

Liberty's Edge

Matthew Morris wrote:
The oldest permanent Catholic church in Ohio and (until recently) the oldest Lutheran Church in Ohio both are here.

Until they built an older one? ;-)


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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
andrew berthiaume wrote:
Kingston NY. First capital(sp) of NY state. Burned down by the Brits. Pretty much it lol. Might be more that idk about
Home of Coheed and Cambria.

To show that indeed idk all about my town, I'll simply say, wha?

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I like to think that Salt Lake City is known for our beautiful mountains and giant, salty lake but it is actually most known for the LDS Temple and really, really stupid politicians. You have no idea how many times I've told people that, no, I'm not a polygamist. And I don't care what your political beliefs are, Chris Buttars is dumb. Heck, I even got tired of Rocky Anderson after a while. The Salt Lake valley is also the meth capital of the world and many of us have a terrible accent littered with glottal stops.

Oh, we also put weird stuff in jello. Look it up.

Scarab Sages

Ummmmm... Not sure really.

There's this lady with a crown, er... a large bell in a tower, there's a big river*, ermm... a bridge that kept on falling down, falling down, falling down....

Cheers! :D

*Can you tell what it is yet? :P

Liberty's Edge

Well, I was born in Paris (France), nothing to add.

Right now, I live in Malakoff (Paris' suburban area), here :
Malakoff

- Pierre Curie & Marie Curie lived there for a while;
- Henri Désiré Landru, a famous criminal, had a shop there
- french painter "le douanier" Rousseau worked in Malakoff and painted there.

Although, more than 20 years before women could vote and/or be elected in France (in 1925 ; women's right to vote in France is 1945), a women was elected one of the representatives at the town council.

Last but not least, Malakoff has had a communist mayor for the past 83 years (since 1925).


Ultradan wrote:
Montreal, Quebec

You forgot to mention the traffic.

Born in Bloomington, IN - home of Indiana University mainly.

Raised in Brown County, IN look up Bean Blossom or Nashville that's pretty much it.

A music festival, ABATE, tourism. People come to look at the trees. o.O

Oh, and T.C Steele built a studio here.

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thefishcometh wrote:

I like to think that Salt Lake City is known for our beautiful mountains and giant, salty lake but it is actually most known for the LDS Temple and really, really stupid politicians. You have no idea how many times I've told people that, no, I'm not a polygamist. And I don't care what your political beliefs are, Chris Buttars is dumb. Heck, I even got tired of Rocky Anderson after a while. The Salt Lake valley is also the meth capital of the world and many of us have a terrible accent littered with glottal stops.

Oh, we also put weird stuff in jello. Look it up.

I feel really bad for you right now...

... In other words, I'm reading "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer.

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Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:
Ultradan wrote:
Montreal, Quebec

You forgot to mention the traffic.

...

I'll see your traffic and raise you a jaywalking. trust me. it takes insane jaywalking skills to even cross at lights here, weaving between speeding cars. if you can jaywalk here, everywhere else is a breeze. Got to Calgary and it was like the streets were deserted. and all the drivers so polite. it was disconcerting. now i'm worried i'm loosing my edge.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
thefishcometh wrote:

I like to think that Salt Lake City is known for our beautiful mountains and giant, salty lake but it is actually most known for the LDS Temple and really, really stupid politicians. You have no idea how many times I've told people that, no, I'm not a polygamist. And I don't care what your political beliefs are, Chris Buttars is dumb. Heck, I even got tired of Rocky Anderson after a while. The Salt Lake valley is also the meth capital of the world and many of us have a terrible accent littered with glottal stops.

Oh, we also put weird stuff in jello. Look it up.

I feel really bad for you right now...

... In other words, I'm reading "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer.

Then you should read this as well.

Liberty's Edge

David Fryer wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
thefishcometh wrote:

I like to think that Salt Lake City is known for our beautiful mountains and giant, salty lake but it is actually most known for the LDS Temple and really, really stupid politicians. You have no idea how many times I've told people that, no, I'm not a polygamist. And I don't care what your political beliefs are, Chris Buttars is dumb. Heck, I even got tired of Rocky Anderson after a while. The Salt Lake valley is also the meth capital of the world and many of us have a terrible accent littered with glottal stops.

Oh, we also put weird stuff in jello. Look it up.

I feel really bad for you right now...

... In other words, I'm reading "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer.

Then you should read this as well.

Read it. Interesting to see the other side, but I still tend towards Krakauer's viewpoint rather than that of Turley, Otterson, and co.


The Greatest Outdoor Show On Earth (The Calgary Stampede)

The 1988 Winter Olympics

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Peter Robinson wrote:

The Greatest Outdoor Show On Earth (The Calgary Stampede)

The 1988 Winter Olympics

The Stampede was awesome! basically a week off from work, great food I havn't been able to get anywhere else and the company took us all for drinking. it was great. plus, I got to wear a cowboy hat for 10 days, and not only was it acceptable, it was encouraged! what fun!

It's really just a shame I'm not much for outdoor shows, or I woulda gone to see those.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
thefishcometh wrote:

I like to think that Salt Lake City is known for our beautiful mountains and giant, salty lake but it is actually most known for the LDS Temple and really, really stupid politicians. You have no idea how many times I've told people that, no, I'm not a polygamist. And I don't care what your political beliefs are, Chris Buttars is dumb. Heck, I even got tired of Rocky Anderson after a while. The Salt Lake valley is also the meth capital of the world and many of us have a terrible accent littered with glottal stops.

Oh, we also put weird stuff in jello. Look it up.

I feel really bad for you right now...

... In other words, I'm reading "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer.

Then you should read this as well.
Read it. Interesting to see the other side, but I still tend towards Krakauer's viewpoint rather than that of Turley, Otterson, and co.

You mean you're not a believer? I must now hunt you down and kill you ;p Just remember that most of us in the LDS Church are nothing like Krakauer's vision of us. 99% of us are just as appalled by what those guys did as you are. If you have any questions, I am more than happy to answer them. I actually live just 45 minutes east of the site where Mountain Meadows took place, and am considered locally as somewhat of an expert on it. My interest all started when I was at the monument and I met an elderly man who was the son of one of the people involved. He actually showed me where everything took place, based on his father's description. Then I saw in the local paper that he had died a few days later, with no children. It made me feel special that as one of his last acts on earth, he passed a story on to me that he would have told his sons, if he had had them. Since then I have tried to learn everything I can about the events, from as many sides as possible.


Pataskala OH,

John Holmes attended my high school...

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Matthew Morris wrote:

Somerset, Ohio

Home of Phil Sheridan Who did to Shenendoa Valley what General Sherman (who was born 15 miles away) did to Georgia. The oldest permanent Catholic church in Ohio and (until recently) the oldest Lutheran Church in Ohio both are here. Also home of the Clay Haus, a haunted restaurant, and the former county seat.

Really?

I'm from Thornville.

Small world.

As for what it's known for....hmmm.....not much. Huge housing boom in that area now since it is so close to Buckeye Lake, a body of water built by the Army Corps of Engineers.

Thornville was once a rich canal town so some of the older houses are just beautiful.

There are some interesting "country" festivals out that way.

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David Fryer wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Read it. Interesting to see the other side, but I still tend towards Krakauer's viewpoint rather than that of Turley, Otterson, and co.
You mean you're not a believer? I must now hunt you down and kill you ;p Just remember that most of us in the LDS Church are nothing like Krakauer's vision of us. 99% of us are just as appalled by what those guys did as you are. If you have any questions, I am more than happy to answer them. I actually live just 45 minutes east of the site where Mountain Meadows took place, and am considered locally as somewhat of an expert on it. My interest all started when I was at the monument and I met an elderly man who was the son of one of the people involved. He actually showed me where everything took place, based on his father's description. Then I saw in the local paper that he had died a few days later, with no children. It made me feel special that as one of his last acts on earth, he passed a story on to me that he would have told his sons, if he had had...

That story about the son of one of the people involved is one of the coolest things I've ever heard, seriously. And, I do concur that incident at Mountain Meadows was certainly an interesting (if incredibly violent) piece of American history.

I have no problem at all with Mormons (along with Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Scientologists, what have you). The majority of Mormons I have met (and the majority of members of any of the above religions) are normal, nice people. What I have a problem with is the concept of fundamentalism. Not just the Lafferty brothers, ANY fundamentalism, whether it be rioting Buddhists, Jerry Falwell, or Osama bin Laden. Anybody that takes religious scripture literally is asking for trouble.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

That story about the son of one of the people involved is one of the coolest things I've ever heard, seriously.

Yeah, that's one of those things you hear about, but never actually think will happen to you. If he had left me a bunch of money, it would have been cooler, but he still left me with something that I treasure to this day.

Sovereign Court

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


I have no problem at all with Mormons (along with Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Scientologists, what have you). The majority of Mormons I have met (and the majority of members of any of the above religions) are normal, nice people. What I have a problem with is the concept of fundamentalism. Not just the Lafferty brothers, ANY fundamentalism, whether it be rioting Buddhists, Jerry Falwell, or Osama bin Laden. Anybody that takes religious scripture literally is asking for trouble.

Amen, IMHO. I do have to say that being a "gentile" in Utah is an odd experience, though. Very closed-off, cloistered, shunned. Most of our neighbors stopped inviting us over when they figured out we weren't LDS. I'm moving to New York once I get my bachelors. I say believe whatever you want, as long as you don't try to make anyone else believe it. Who is anyone to say who is right and who is wrong in matters so personal?

Now, if only I wasn't a hypocrite. ;p

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