Dragnmoon |
This is precisely hypocrisy I have been decrying. How can there be freedom for all... when you exhibit such hostility towards your fellows?
Be alert that dictators have always played on the natural human tendency to blame others and to oversimplify.
Dragnmoon |
Another damning evidence against your proclaimed desire for freedom for all.
Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.
Tomen X |
I just got here to Absalom and signed up. Thanks for the fine welcome BBQ, fellow Pathfinders. You really didn't have to do that just for me though. It's okay that you're Chelaxians, once we show you how much happier you can be without any outside forces oppressing your freedom of choice, I'm sure you'll change your point of view.
Lazaro |
I just got here to Absalom and signed up. Thanks for the fine welcome BBQ, fellow Pathfinders. You really didn't have to do that just for me though. It's okay that you're Chelaxians, once we show you how much happier you can be without any outside forces oppressing your freedom of choice, I'm sure you'll change your point of view.
Well if liked the barbeque be sure to try the cake...Devil's Food of course.
Timespike |
Dragnmoon wrote:As I said before, Freedom is Overrated.Radavel wrote:Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.
Another damning evidence against your proclaimed desire for freedom for all.
The only justification I feel the need to show you will come on the point of my sword, fiend-thrall. I will send you to the eternal agony you so fervently crave.
Klovanos Haldoran |
<shrugs>We are just coming out of a rough patch. Now that the leading houses have finally come to an agreement on the proper length for cuffs, we are ready to reassume our place as the rightful leaders of the realm.
It is true that corruption and abuses of power were seen from time to time, but have you people no sense of loyalty?
I for one believe we are far better to follow those whom the gods have chosen for rule, than to descend into chaos and anarchy. What this land needs is a return to the peace of empire!
The gods may have punished the Taldan people for our mistakes, but it is only a matter of time before the empire rises to its former glory.
Wulf Stronthammer |
<shrugs>We are just coming out of a rough patch. Now that the leading houses have finally come to an agreement on the proper length for cuffs, we are ready to reassume our place as the rightful leaders of the realm.
It is true that corruption and abuses of power were seen from time to time, but have you people no sense of loyalty?
I for one believe we are far better to follow those whom the gods have chosen for rule, than to descend into chaos and anarchy. What this land needs is a return to the peace of empire!
The gods may have punished the Taldan people for our mistakes, but it is only a matter of time before the empire rises to its former glory.
With respect, your leaders are precisely the reason why rule by the people is necessary. Under the leadership of those 'chosen by the gods', you lost most of your empire while you fiddled about with your cuffs. Even if we fail, we have taken destiny into our own hands. Join us, freedom can always welcome more brothers in arms to fight the corrupt who stand on the backs of the people.
Gailbraithe |
"When people talk of the freedom, I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.
The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom inherent to all of mankind.
Freedom has never come from king or crown. Freedom has always come from the subjects of power. The history of freedom is a history of resistance. It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.
We, free men and women of the Andoran League, carry with us the tinderboxes of freedom, and we have set our hearts afire. We will burn it all down if we must, for we would rather die free in the fire of liberty than live in the bondage of slavery."
Wulf Stronthammer |
Gailbraithe wrote:...for we would rather die free in the fire of liberty than live in the bondage of slavery.That can be arranged bluebird, that can be arranged.
*reaches for Alchemist's Fire*
Careful, Kisser. You wouldn't want to find out what Hell feels like early if you drop that stuff, would you?
Klovanos Haldoran |
With respect, your leaders are precisely the reason why rule by the people is necessary. Under the leadership of those 'chosen by the gods', you lost most of your empire while you fiddled about with your cuffs. Even if we fail, we have taken destiny into our own hands. Join us, freedom can always welcome more brothers in arms to fight the corrupt who stand on the backs of the people.
Give me a warm bed, a good meal, and safety in the streets over your "freedom" any day of the week.
As one who served in the Imperial army I can say that I have seen what can happen when people challenge their betters. Far better to have an empire with all its faults than to descend into chaos and demon worship like your Chelaxian neighbours!
Though I may not be entirely comfortable with the "fashionable talk" at the Taldan Garden Party, I do know where my loyalties lie!
Wulf Stronthammer |
Give me a warm bed, a good meal, and safety in the streets over your "freedom" any day of the week.
As one who served in the Imperial army I can say that I have seen what can happen when people challenge their betters. Far better to have an empire with all its faults than to descend into chaos and demon worship like your Chelaxian neighbours!
Though I may not be entirely comfortable with the "fashionable talk" at the Taldan Garden Party, I do know where my loyalties lie!
The Devil Kissers have peace in their streets, too. Everyone's too afraid of their infernal masters to do anything at all. Better to die free than live at the whim of my 'betters'. For now, let us raise ale together. And if we meet in battle, I will honour you with a clean death.
Sir Oliver |
My fellow Andorans! Who among you is ready to make yourselves known! Gather together and raise a cheer for independance, for soon we will overthrow our hated enemies and spread the word of freedom to their subjugated peoples!
Yes, yes, yes, this is all nice and neat, but let's look at this from bigger picture: Andoran is bordered by Cheliax on the west and Taldor on the east. Are Andorans *really* capable of waging a prolonged war on two battle fronts simultaneously?
Even if that wasn't the case, Andoran's proposed revolution is destined to fail. Like a poisoned seed that grows into a stunted plant, so did Andoran taint revolutionary ideals by pardoning the reactionary leeches of the so-called "nobility". Burghers, merchants and other lumpenproletariat couldn't give up on their inbreed servility so they left their former tyrants alive and free.
So, look not towards Andoran to lead you, but to the north east where the true flame of freedom burns. Revolution will come, Citizens, and it will be a Glorious one.
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
Timespike |
Dane Pitchford wrote:My fellow Andorans! Who among you is ready to make yourselves known! Gather together and raise a cheer for independance, for soon we will overthrow our hated enemies and spread the word of freedom to their subjugated peoples!Yes, yes, yes, this is all nice and neat, but let's look at this from bigger picture: Andoran is bordered by Cheliax on the west and Taldor on the east. Are Andorans *really* capable of waging a prolonged war on two battle fronts simultaneously?
Even if that wasn't the case, Andoran's proposed revolution is destined to fail. Like a poisoned seed that grows into a stunted plant, so did Andoran taint revolutionary ideals by pardoning the reactionary leeches of the so-called "nobility". Burghers, merchants and other lumpenproletariat couldn't give up on their inbreed servility so they left their former tyrants alive and free.
So, look not towards Andoran to lead you, but to the north east where the true flame of freedom burns. Revolution will come, Citizens, and it will be a Glorious one.
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
I'll not be lectured by the resident of a land that slaughters its own children every few years!
Sir Oliver |
I'll not be lectured by the resident of a land that slaughters its own children every few years!
That is mere propaganda created by the enemies of Revolution. Faced with the force of one incorruptible nation, western Bourgeoisie and it's military-mercantile pawns have no other options but to spread lies and slander about our glorious country.
Singed:
Citizen of Galt.
Wulf Stronthammer |
Timespike wrote:I'll not be lectured by the resident of a land that slaughters its own children every few years!That is mere propaganda created by the enemies of Revolution. Faced with the force of one incorruptible nation, western Bourgeoisie and it's military-mercantile pawns have no other options but to spread lies and slander about our glorious country.
Singed:
Citizen of Galt.
And yet you have no bones about spreading lies about the proud nation of Andoran. I also note you are 'Sir' Oliver. It would appear the Galtan Revolution has merely changed the face of its masters. When you desire to live free from the oppression, join us, Oliver.
The lovers of freedom must stand together, lest our enemies pick us off one by one.
Sir Oliver |
Sil stops her dancing and shoots Sir Oliver a glare mastered during her youth as a Chelaxian lady, "and who invited this pompous buffoon to our party?"
Come! In our Glorious Revolution there will be no place for false modesty which has been deliberately forced for so long upon your sex! Throw away the shackles of moral hypocrisy invented by the male-dominant society! Join me in my private chambers where I shall demonstrate all the strengths of a new society that grows and expands as we speak!
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
Sir Oliver |
And yet you have no bones about spreading lies about the proud nation of Andoran. I also note you are 'Sir' Oliver. It would appear the Galtan Revolution has merely changed the face of its masters. When you desire to live free from the oppression, join us, Oliver.
The lovers of freedom must stand together, lest our enemies pick us off one by one.
I am merely the Count of the Common Man! Lord of the Lawless! Duke of the Discredited! But I have no time to discuss semantics with you, Citizen! Those bombs I carry to Taldor and Cheliax factions won't go off by themselves, you know!
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
Sir Oliver |
Sil runs her mind over the man's words, "private...grows...expands," sure that there is an innuendo hidden in there somewhere. Finally she climbs down from her stool top, makes her way to Sir Oliver, and stares up at him. "Okay, let's talk."
Most formidable! But I must warn you: experiencing the impressive effects of Revolution is the most strenuous activity. We might stay up all night long contemplating it's amazing virility!
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
Sir Oliver |
Sil continues to silently play over the man's words, "strenuous...virility," before finally taking his pudgy hand in her small, but work-calloused one. "Yes, let's talk of revolution. Tell me of the blow you plan to strike against Taldor and Cheliax."
YES! YES! Be my Apparatchik! Conquer my means of production!
Signed:
Citizen of Galt
Sir Oliver |
This show was brought to you by Sir Oliver: a user with way too much free time on his hands, especially on Sunday evenings (it's 23h over here at my place).
Also, I totally think someone should do a Galt faction for Pathfinder Society. Unfortunately, Galtians (Galts?) seem to be too much stuck up with their own internal mess to pay any attention to the outside world. 'Tis a shame, really. Their anarchists would make a wonderful addition to the already complicated politics of the Inner Sea region. :-)
<curtain>
Sir Oliver |
Sil gives Sir Oliver a big, furry foot to the buttocks as he beats a hasty exit.
Yeah, yeah! Beaten by a halfling. Laugh all you want. And just for the record: if I had the money, those bombs would have been really deadly. This way, only things I could really buy were couple of firecrackers and paper confetti.
I fail at anarchy. :-(
Sillitta Ederus |
Sil sits down on a comfortable chair next to the newcomer, tucking her furry feet up beneath her. "For me freedom is defined by what the free choose to do with it. For example, you are happy to indulge in spiced meat and smoke. My fellow Andorans and I choose to bring freedom to those who don't have it. I'll not judge which is the more noble calling...mostly because I'd like to have a taste of some of that spiced meat. I've heard good stuff about it to be sure."
Timespike |
Baern Longblade wrote:A sword pledged in freedom, for freedom! Let us show the fools what it means to be free!Come show us your much vaunted idealism.
Gladly. Sadly this venue prohibits simply demonstrating some of the finer points of my ideals, so why don't we take this somewhere less restrictive. Like outside. There I'll be happy to show you the strength of my ideals. I would imagine you would find my truth cuts through your obfuscation. Nothing like a little crushing reason to cleave through the fog of doubt and slash through the clever lies of a forked-tongued fiend worshiper. I doubt any who witness our discussion will be able to deny the impact of what I say to you.
Radavel |
Radavel wrote:Gladly. Sadly this venue prohibits simply demonstrating some of the finer points of my ideals, so why don't we take this somewhere less restrictive. Like outside. There I'll be happy to show you the strength of my ideals. I would imagine you would find my truth cuts through your obfuscation. Nothing like a little crushing reason to cleave through the fog of doubt and slash through the clever lies of a forked-tongued fiend worshiper.Baern Longblade wrote:A sword pledged in freedom, for freedom! Let us show the fools what it means to be free!Come show us your much vaunted idealism.
<Check the mirror>
No fork tongue there.
Such idealism. I am sure the University of Cheliax will gladly offer you a scholarship.