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My players just defeated Justice Ironbriar last friday but they did the most unexpected thing... they started apologizing to him, the story goes like this, they arrived at his office in the sevens saw mill after battling the cultist and started figthing with him and two henchmen, In the figth they exchange a few words so I ask for a sense motive check and one of the players realices hes under a charm effect and tells the party, they start using subdual damage a beat him up, at this point Im thinking they want information and are curios why would he be under a charm, they dont know who he is but do know he is a cleric of Norgorber (he casted some spells and after looting him they found a holy symbol) so hes unconcious and since the party doesnt have a dispel magic prepered they decide to stuff him in their bag of holding and go out of the city to interrogate him the next day
So the next day in the wilderness hes bound and gaged thinking how to get out of this predicament when the party cast dispel magic and he realices Xanesha has being using him, at this point I think of doing what the book says and ask the players to look the other way for a few hours and sold Xanesha but the player playing the figther tells me "while I untie him I tell him we are deply sorry for having him tied up like this" and the other players follow him apologizing, so I acting as Ironbriar start yelling at the characters "do you know who I am, Im justice Ironbriar you are in deep trouble" It was really funny and unexpected, they started talking and Ironbriar blamed Xanesha for the killing and said he was being used, everything was going well (for Ironbriar) untill one of the character asked him "you are a cleric right? we foud this on you" handing him the Norgorber symbol, so I thinking he was busted said "Yes my order was being used by that monster, we are the protectors of magnimar if one of its rulers is not good we must eliminate him..." I was thinking now their are going to see the lie and we can move on, but they bougth it, I mean they really believed it, I was thinking come one he a cleric for the god of murder you cant belive this but they did, so they made an agreement he would not press charges for being kidnaped is they keep the whole murder cult to themselves.
So what do you think? :)
My players just defeated Justice Ironbriar last friday but they did the most unexpected thing... they started apologizing to him, the story goes like this, they arrived at his office in the sevens saw mill after battling the cultist and started figthing with him and two henchmen, In the figth they exchange a few words so I ask for a sense motive check and one of the players realices hes under a charm effect and tells the party, they start using subdual damage a beat him up, at this point Im thinking they want information and are curios why would he be under a charm, they dont know who he is but do know he is a cleric of Norgorber (he casted some spells and after looting him they found a holy symbol) so hes unconcious and since the party doesnt have a dispel magic prepered they decide to stuff him in their bag of holding and go out of the city to interrogate him the next day
So the next day in the wilderness hes bound and gaged thinking how to get out of this predicament when the party cast dispel magic and he realices Xanesha has being using him, at this point I think of doing what the book says and ask the players to look the other way for a few hours and sold Xanesha but the player playing the figther tells me "while I untie him I tell him we are deply sorry for having him tied up like this" and the other players follow him apologizing, so I acting as Ironbriar start yelling at the characters "do you know who I am, Im justice Ironbriar you are in deep trouble" It was really funny and unexpected, they started talking and Ironbriar blamed Xanesha for the killing and said he was being used, everything was going well (for Ironbriar) untill one of the character asked him "you are a cleric right? we foud this on you" handing him the Norgorber symbol, so I thinking he was busted said "Yes my order was being used by that monster, we are the protectors of magnimar if one of its rulers is not good we must eliminate him..." I was thinking now their are going to see the lie and we can move on, but they bougth it, I mean...
Extremely funny. You have to find a way for this to come back and haunt the characters later in the campaign. That is really awesome, and some good quick thinking on your part.
This is a good opportunity for having help during the battle with Xanesha aka Miss TPK
You could have Ironbriar escort the player to the tower , have him speak with the golem and have it let the PCs pass
Then, a good fight against Xanesha with Ironbriar help
And when they come down again : Bang , the golem attacks them with Ironbriar flanking ...
Nasty but logical :)
except that Ironbriar is such a complete and total wuss that the space he takes up may actually be a determent to the party :)
Delightful results. And even somewhat true, given how the Seven seek to sculpt society/the future through murder (ala Wanted). A "bad" ruler to them would more likely be good than evil perhaps.
Given how they whooped him once already, plus his cover is safe, I'd say Ironbriar would be *much* more likely to try and use the party in the future, than destroy them.
The rest of the Seven may not agree though.
Sweet, my group will be dealing with Magnimar this Saturday.
Though I do have one question. I thought if a living thing was stuffed into a bag of holding it would run out of breath?
Yes eventually, but my players left him there for a short time, the time it took for them to reach out of the city to an isolated location, so he had suficient air inside the bag.
In the case of my group, their monk recognized something was wrong. The mage did cast a dispel magic, and Ironbriar arranged a truce.
Then about 24 hours later the group found out that while he was under Xanesha's control for the last six months, that probably didn't explain the years of Norgorbor killings. (Later confirmed by deciphering his ledger.)
Oh, they were not happy with me. And Ironbriar was an incredibly disturbed individual in my game.
U know he should have suffocated In the bag of holding after 10 minutes. It states it in the items description
U know he should have suffocated In the bag of holding after 10 minutes. It states it in the items description
Details, schmeetails ;)