
Zoe |

I will have the intro IC thread up later tonight or tomorrow, those that are ready can post as soon as it's up. I'm assuming no one knows each other yet so as this takes place in Sandpoint you need to find a reason to be there.
Hint: It's convenient that there is a festival happening tonight though isn't it?

Valken |

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I'm assuming no one knows each other yet so as this takes place in Sandpoint you need to find a reason to be there.
If Mon Soul wants to, we can tie our characters together, he could simply be coming to visit since its been a few years since i left the Elven community. Or as i mentioned in my characters background he recently recieved news that his mentor has yet to return, Mon Souk could be the one who delivered the news, whether we know one another or not.
My character should be complete, as stated in the other thread I'd like to replace Ride with Tumble (cityscape web enhancement)
I've decide to go with the Alternate Draconic Template from Races of the Dragon.
her's what I'm planning for the early levels
1st Duskblade 1 Knowledge Healing, Versatile Spellcaster
2nd ECL
3rd Dragon Shaman 1 Power Attack
4th Duskblade 2
5th Duskblade 3
6th Dragon Adept 1 Knowledge Devotion
I'm going with a theme here. Leaving me with several route open for advancement. PRC: Dragonheart Mage or Spellsword
From the Dragon Adept, I'll be taking the invocation that grants +6 to all knowledge skills, perfect fit for the KInowledge Devotion domain feat

Mon_Soul |

[i]Zoe wrote:I'm assuming no one knows each other yet so as this takes place in Sandpoint you need to find a reason to be there.If Mon Soul wants to, we can tie our characters together, he could simply be coming to visit since its been a few years since i left the Elven community. Or as i mentioned in my characters background he recently recieved news that his mentor has yet to return, Mon Souk could be the one who delivered the news, whether we know one another or not.
My character should be complete, as stated in the other thread I'd like to replace Ride with Tumble (cityscape web enhancement)
I've decide to go with the Alternate Draconic Template from Races of the Dragon.
here's what I'm planning for the early levels
1st Duskblade 1 Knowledge Healing, Versatile Spellcaster
2nd ECL
3rd Dragon Shaman 1 Power Attack
4th Duskblade 2
5th Duskblade 3
6th Dragon Adept 1 Knowledge DevotionI'm going with a theme here. Leaving me with several route open for advancement. PRC: Dragonheart Mage or Spellsword
From the Dragon Adept, I'll be taking the invocation that grants +6 to all knowledge skills, perfect fit for the knowledge Devotion domain feat
Sounds good. Since my parents were killed in a ambush at their farm, I have left to spread the word and having entered into your town, I ran into you on the street.
Since we are of similar age, I ask
" Fellow brother I am in need of help. I am going in to Sandpoint for a festival in hopes of meeting others that may join with me to defeat those that have done considerable harm to my village. They have killed my elven parents and many other elders of the village. Would you care to join me?"

Zoe |

I do have a question.
For the ECL level, I'm aware thats there no class hit point increase, but will i recieve my Full Con bonus to hit points or just the hit point from the Con increase?
You don't get any additional HP/skills/etc. for taking an ECL. You just take the XP hit for choosing a powerful template/race. (that template adds things, but I don't remember HPs getting added.)
What page is this template on so I can look it over? Because if you want the "template" (as described on page 70) it looks like it costs ECL +2 and it says you can add that after you gain enough XP to advance to level 2.

Lorderl |

You don't get any additional HP/skills/etc. for taking an ECL. You just take the XP hit for choosing a powerful template/race.
What page is this template on so I can look it over?
page 70 Variant: Dragonic Racial Class
Since my CON will be going up by 2 i should at least be get 1hp when i reach ECL 2

Zoe |

ECL is not an actual level, so no. You would get a retroactive con bonus for any real levels however.
Earning 1,000 xp then taking an ECL+2 makes you an ECL 3, not level 3. So you'll need enough xp to go from level 3 to 4 (-1000 you already earned) and can then take level 2. By the end of the adventure path you'll probably be only level 2 but an ECL 4.
You take the good with the bad, sure you'll be a bad ass level 1 Duskblade at level 1 when everyone else gains level 2, but your stuck there for quite some time.

Lorderl |

ECL is not an actual level, so no. You would get a retroactive con bonus for any real levels however.
ok, this is basical what i meant so I'll get 1hp, weeeeeeeee :)
By the end of the adventure path you'll probably be only level 2 but an ECL 4.
at that point i should be a level 3 character ECL 4, thus always trailing by 1 level.

Mon_Soul |

Zoe wrote:Oh oops I don't have those books is that a prerequisite? But I suppose since I was brought up outside the village I would be a country born or a lone wolf since both of my parents were killed. I do not know what those benefits are though.
You can pick from the pathfinder book:
Lone Wolf, Country Born, or City Born for free
I found the players guide down load

Zoe |

Zoe wrote:ECL is not an actual level, so no. You would get a retroactive con bonus for any real levels however.ok, this is basical what i meant so I'll get 1hp, weeeeeeeee :)
Zoe wrote:By the end of the adventure path you'll probably be only level 2 but an ECL 4.At that point i should be a level 3 character ECL 4, thus always trailing by 1 level.
Your talking about the plus 2 con bonus granted at racial level 2 (ECL +2) so by the time you get that your still a level 1 but ECL 3 You'll be trailing by 2 levels minimum.
However, it's kinda moot, read on:
"Once you decide to follow this path, you must give up your next 2 levels in exchange for the benefits of the 2nd and 3rd effective class levels of the draconic racial class."
So if you want the con boost you just committed yourself to taking ECL 1-3, and therefore when everyone is at the end of the adventure and level 4ish your still going to be level 1, albeit ECL 4.
At that point you can continue down the template line ganging more power & gaining the dragon type (changes your subtype to dragon), wings and a breath weapon. Or you can start taking class levels.
Also I will need to know what type of Dragon your planning on choosing.
Keep in mind I'll be open minded to this, as it is a gradual change, but this is a drastic character change at the last second. And it will definitely make you look pretty kill on sight in most places that wont know you.
But, I'm inclined to allow it due to the restrictions and checks and balances involved.
EDIT: didn't notice the first level was NOT an ECL hit. This is why I don't like surprises at the last second.

Lorderl |

Your talking about the plus 2 con bonus granted at racial level 2 (ECL +2) so by the time you get that your still a level 1 but ECL 3 You'll be trailing by 2 levels minimum.
Below is on pg 70 on the right
"For example, a 4th-level human fighter with the draconictemplate (ECL 5th) wishes to become a half-dragon."
at that point the character only has the Draconic template, they further proceed to cover the charager advancing the remaining ECL to become a half dragon
also look at Table 4–1: The Draconic Racial Class
At 1st level (what i currently am) i recieve the 2 skill bonusees
At 2nd lvl is where the first ECL is added (and i get 1hp for the Con increase) This is the point where the example above shows that the character leveled up 3 more levels of fighter to become a 4th-level human fighter with the draconic template (ECL 5th)
if another ECL is taken as the example proceeds to explains the character then must also commit to taking the following ECL as well

Lorderl |

Also I will need to know what type of Dragon your planning on choosing.
Keep in mind I'll be open minded to this, as it is a gradual change, but this is a drastic character change at the last second. And it will definitely make you look pretty kill on sight in most places that wont know you.
But, I'm inclined to allow it due to the restrictions and checks and balances involved.
I wasn't planning on going beyond the one ECL, if i did it would be at later levels.
I figure the Bronze would be fine (there are some with Sonic but thats to much cheese), which is what i planned for when i leveled as a Dragon Shaman

Zoe |

Zoe wrote:Also I will need to know what type of Dragon your planning on choosing.
Keep in mind I'll be open minded to this, as it is a gradual change, but this is a drastic character change at the last second. And it will definitely make you look pretty kill on sight in most places that wont know you.
But, I'm inclined to allow it due to the restrictions and checks and balances involved.
I wasn't planning on going beyond the one ECL, if i did it would be at later levels.
I figure the Bronze would be fine (there are some with Sonic but thats to much cheese), which is what i planned for when i leveled as a Dragon Shaman
Had to re-read it again, I see now that the first level is free. (This is why I don't normally allow a massive change in characters hours before a game start.)
OK so you would be just +1 ECL. If you want to do thats fine, claws are easy to hide, and the only change physically.

Zoe |

The game has opened:
Seeing as you all may have your own reasons for heading to Sandpoint I'll let you fill in what you plan to do one day before the festival. You may be in route, or already there, or close by.
The game starts a day before the planned Swallowtail Festival here:
Good Luck, I think your going to need it. /evil snicker.

Zoe |

Lord Viper
The IC thread is where you want to make those roles, you can use the ooc tags for the dice rolls.
Don't make actual dice rolls in the OOC thread, as I may not see them when they are rolled.
Also most people make a new alias with their character names listed, as you haven't yet, or plan not to do that, could you somehow identify your character for easy reference? People are going to assume your name is actually Lord Viper.
Lastly, You made a roll to gather info, could you be specific on what your actions are in gathering info? If you trying to avoid people you wouldn't get word of mouth info obviously so that affects what info is gained.
What seer are you looking for? Is that in your history/background?
Also, could you link the actual roll so I can verify it? here is an example:
Gather Info Roll Example: 1d20+5 [8,5] = (13)
the code looks like this:
<ooc> Gather Info Roll Example:</ooc> <url="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1655765/">1d20+5 [8,5] = (13)</url>
* Just replace < > with [ ]

Valken |

Mon Soul, if you want our characters to have a common background, I’ll need to know in what fashion.
The Elven woods where Mon Soul is from is where I intended for Valken to have gotten his training.
We could just be friend
Mon Soul could have assisted in part of Valken’s training
Mon Soul could be the messenger I mentioned with news of Valken’s mentor (whether or not if we know one another)
Mon Soul and Valken could have been from the same small village and Mon Soul could have gone to inform Valken of the events as well as inform of his mentor absents. It could be possible that Valken’s mentors disappearance has to do with the villages attack?

Lorderl |

Lord Viper, are you missing the keys needed for the tags? If so We can set up a post so you can copy and paste them.
just below the text field in the center you should see "BBCode tags you can use" there's a small gray box with the word SHOW written on it, click that and it'll show you what you need.
for the Invisible Castle links you just copy and past to the bbcode that has [Url=] on it

Zoe |

Being a Local I see no problem with knowing the local rumors, it's a small town, word gets around quick.
In the future please approve of sticking yourself into the plot as such:
"Valken had made arrangements to work for Ameiko Kaijitsu, an ex-adventurer herself and now proprietor of the Rusty Dragon inn. In exchange for a room and simple meals he would do the job of bouncer on some afternoons and most nights. It was a short tern arrangement which was nearly at its end."
This was not approved in your history, and in the future I need to make sure my plot matches up with your proposed plot.
No major harm done, but A heads up is needed if your going to do that in the future guys.
Ameiko is not around today actually, so now I have to modify that slightly on the IC thread.

Lorderl |

Being a Local I see no problem with knowing the local rumors, it's a small town, word gets around quick.
In the future please approve of sticking yourself into the plot as such:
"Valken had made arrangements to work for Ameiko Kaijitsu, an ex-adventurer herself and now proprietor of the Rusty Dragon inn. In exchange for a room and simple meals he would do the job of bouncer on some afternoons and most nights. It was a short tern arrangement which was nearly at its end."
This was not approved in your history, and in the future I need to make sure my plot matches up with your proposed plot.
No major harm done, but A heads up is needed if your going to do that in the future guys.
Ameiko is not around today actually, so now I have to modify that slightly on the IC thread.
noted and sorry about that, but that info is right out of the ROTRL players guide, except the job part which i stated is near its end.
i still have time to edit that post if you like

Zoe |

Zoe wrote:Being a Local I see no problem with knowing the local rumors, it's a small town, word gets around quick.
In the future please approve of sticking yourself into the plot as such:
"Valken had made arrangements to work for Ameiko Kaijitsu, an ex-adventurer herself and now proprietor of the Rusty Dragon inn. In exchange for a room and simple meals he would do the job of bouncer on some afternoons and most nights. It was a short tern arrangement which was nearly at its end."
This was not approved in your history, and in the future I need to make sure my plot matches up with your proposed plot.
No major harm done, but A heads up is needed if your going to do that in the future guys.
Ameiko is not around today actually, so now I have to modify that slightly on the IC thread.
noted and sorry about that, but that info is right out of the ROTRL players guide, except the job part which i stated is near its end.
i still have time to edit that post if you like
It's fixed, but I would of liked to have known your working for one of the major NPCs.

Lorderl |

It's fixed, but I would of liked to have known your working for one of the major NPCs.
sorry about that, i was only thinking so long as i wasn't making any money.
How about we make it that todays the last day of the agreement?
so if Valken intents on staying another night he'll have to pay but he'll not have to work.

Zoe |

Zoe wrote:Mon_soul: Where is your skill in gather Info on your character sheet? I don't see it listed. (how are you getting +8?)Oops I thought it would be a search. I looked it up and will add that to my profile. I have a Cha of 10=0 bonus. Would you like a 1d4 for a general search or a 1d10?
Skill rolls are 1d20 + modifiers.
Search = 1d20 + INT mod. + Ranks, and is only for 5 foot areas. (typically)
You probably want to roll a Gather Info, which takes longer but is more appropriate to the action your trying to do.
Gather Information = 1d20 + CHA Mod. + any ranks in the skill(which looks like you have 0 ranks.)
Gather info takes 1d4+1 Hours to complete, so if you want to do a gather info roll 1 d 20 + your CHA mod and post the result.

Zoe |

Zoe wrote:It's fixed, but I would of liked to have known your working for one of the major NPCs.sorry about that, i was only thinking so long as i wasn't making any money.
How about we make it that todays the last day of the agreement?
so if Valken intents on staying another night he'll have to pay but he'll not have to work.
It's fine, we'll say today was the last day you were hired for.

Mon_Soul |

Mon_Soul wrote:Zoe wrote:Mon_soul: Where is your skill in gather Info on your character sheet? I don't see it listed. (how are you getting +8?)Oops I thought it would be a search. I looked it up and will add that to my profile. I have a Cha of 10=0 bonus. Would you like a 1d4 for a general search or a 1d10?Skill rolls are 1d20 + modifiers.
Search = 1d20 + INT mod. + Ranks, and is only for 5 foot areas. (typically)
You probably want to roll a Gather Info, which takes longer but is more appropriate to the action your trying to do.
Gather Information = 1d20 + CHA Mod. + any ranks in the skill(which looks like you have 0 ranks.)
Gather info takes 1d4+1 Hours to complete, so if you want to do a gather info roll 1 d 20 + your CHA mod and post the result.
Does my post look correct?

Zoe |

I've asked this previously a couple of times but don't recall seeing a reply.
is it ok to swap out Ride for Tumble per the cityscape web enhancement?
also i just listed all the skills for easier access :)
Link me to the article so I can check it out, seeing as I missed this I will look it over.
No new character changes from this point on for everyone else too :P
EDIT: this one? "Skilled City-Dweller" if so, ya thats fine.