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Joey Virtue wrote:
Just as the topic says page 2 is blank

I suspect that is so that page 1 can be a proper cover, and leave the pagination correct inside.

Scarab Sages

I'd guess this is for double-sided printing, so the first page of content isn't on the inside front cover.

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grrtigger wrote:
I'd guess this is for double-sided printing, so the first page of content isn't on the inside front cover.

Correct.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Liberty's Edge

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But doesn't that mean page 2, the introduction page, ends up being aligned wrong? It seems to me that the page number is supposed to be in the outside corner and the little compasses on the top are supposed to be on the outside corner.

The blank filler page does make the cover page's back blank.. but then the alpha 3 title page throws it off. If you print the table of contents on the back of it, now page 2 the Intro/History page has it's page number and compass corner in the binding. :)

Granted I realize if you just print it, every page has a front and back. But it doesn't seem to align right...but it doesn't look right to me. :)

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SirUrza wrote:

But doesn't that mean page 2, the introduction page, ends up being aligned wrong? It seems to me that the page number is supposed to be in the outside corner and the little on the top is supposed to be on the outside corner.

The blank filler page does make the cover page's back blank.. but then the alpha 3 title page throws it off. If you print the table of contents on the back of it, now page 2 the Intro/History page has it's page number and compass corner in the binding. :)

Hmm... this does seem incorrect. I am not 100% sure why there are two pages in there. I would recommend skipping one of those pages until we can get this sorted out.

Grr.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Sovereign Court

Oh.. .Jason, btw, the local printer has begged me to ask you not to lable the table of contents page, or the cover page in the PDF page naming section. This causes the print job to not work, and its difficult to alter the locked file. Hope that makes sense, I think I mentioned this before.... so the cover should be p1, p2, p3 etc. without any special names coded into the .pdf for the pages. If this was already addressed, please forgive this note... Thanks.

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Pax Veritas wrote:
Oh.. .Jason, btw, the local printer has begged me to ask you not to lable the table of contents page, or the cover page in the PDF page naming section. This causes the print job to not work, and its difficult to alter the locked file.

I heartily second this request!

-Derek

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Hmm... this does seem incorrect. I am not 100% sure why there are two pages in there. I would recommend skipping one of those pages until we can get this sorted out. Grr.

There's probably supposed to be a blank page after the title page. You guys have plenty of time to get the bugs out before it goes to the printers for beta. ;)

In any case I print the table of contents page - 160 and then I print the cover. Haven't had a printing problem yet.. well aside from the every annoying last page being single sided... which seems to be formated to be a last single sided page all the time because of page count. :)

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm... this does seem incorrect. I am not 100% sure why there are two pages in there. I would recommend skipping one of those pages until we can get this sorted out.

Grr.

The blank page, the page with the barbarian chick, and the TOC page all have the background texturing of an even-numbered page.

Just to increase the joy...

Scarab Sages

How about some kind of large watermark inside the front cover, say a Pathfinder compass or the PRPG logo?

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grrtigger wrote:
How about some kind of large watermark inside the front cover, say a Pathfinder compass or the PRPG logo?

I'm sure when the book goes to print.. probably as a hardcover.. they'll do something on the inside of the front and back cover.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

When I printed mine, I skipped the blank page, thus printing Amiri on the back side of the cover, opposite the TOC. This makes the 2-page spread of the introduction and all others afterwards line up.


Pax Veritas wrote:
Oh.. .Jason, btw, the local printer has begged me to ask you not to lable the table of contents page, or the cover page in the PDF page naming section. This causes the print job to not work, and its difficult to alter the locked file. Hope that makes sense, I think I mentioned this before.... so the cover should be p1, p2, p3 etc. without any special names coded into the .pdf for the pages. If this was already addressed, please forgive this note... Thanks.

This was a problem for me, too.


Pax Veritas wrote:
Oh.. .Jason, btw, the local printer has begged me to ask you not to lable the table of contents page, or the cover page in the PDF page naming section. This causes the print job to not work, and its difficult to alter the locked file. Hope that makes sense, I think I mentioned this before.... so the cover should be p1, p2, p3 etc. without any special names coded into the .pdf for the pages. If this was already addressed, please forgive this note... Thanks.

I've fixed this before in 1.3 PDFs by simply removing the /PageLabel code from the PDF (using a text editor.) However, Paizo's pdfs are 1.6, and are not using the same pagination system/application (I'd be surprised if they were), so this fix (aka gross kludge) doesn't work with the new Alpha doc.

The actual fix was adjusting the settings on an OPI printer, but I had fun learning about the underlying code in PDFs while the sysadmins did their thing.


I'd just be happy if they found an "A" for the font they use for the headings.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Kelvin273 wrote:
I'd just be happy if they found an "A" for the font they use for the headings.

That's a bug in your PDF renderer.

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yoda8myhead wrote:
When I printed mine, I skipped the blank page, thus printing Amiri on the back side of the cover, opposite the TOC. This makes the 2-page spread of the introduction and all others afterwards line up.

That's what I ended up doing. Original I went with just the cover, and then on the next page started with the TOC with page 2 printed on the back. About half way through I decided it wouldn't hurt to print Amiri on the back of the cover. :)

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