Pathfinder Modern

[mordrene]

Will the pathfinder rules also update th ed20 modern system? if not will there be a pathfinder modern?

[Mike McArtor]

mordrene wrote:

Will the pathfinder rules also update th ed20 modern system? if not will there be a pathfinder modern?

No. Doubtful.

But...

My personal campaign setting uses a horrible Frankenstein's monster of D&D and d20 Modern rules. Once the current campaign wraps up in June, I plan on starting up another game in the same modern setting using the PFRPG rules as the basis. I will also tie in and update d20 Modern rules. Maybe some day I'll put up the rules I create (and playtest!) as a sort of PFRPG Modern PDF supplement.

Otherwise, I don't think anything else remotely resembling an "official" PFRPG Modern will appear.

[Pholtus]

Mike McArtor wrote:

mordrene wrote:

Will the pathfinder rules also update th ed20 modern system? if not will there be a pathfinder modern?

No. Doubtful.

But...

My personal campaign setting uses a horrible Frankenstein's monster of D&D and d20 Modern rules. Once the current campaign wraps up in June, I plan on starting up another game in the same modern setting using the PFRPG rules as the basis. I will also tie in and update d20 Modern rules. Maybe some day I'll put up the rules I create (and playtest!) as a sort of PFRPG Modern PDF supplement.

Otherwise, I don't think anything else remotely resembling an "official" PFRPG Modern will appear.

This makes me a SAD PANDA! :(

[Phalazar]

Pholtus wrote:

Mike McArtor wrote:

mordrene wrote:

Will the pathfinder rules also update th ed20 modern system? if not will there be a pathfinder modern?

No. Doubtful.

But...

My personal campaign setting uses a horrible Frankenstein's monster of D&D and d20 Modern rules. Once the current campaign wraps up in June, I plan on starting up another game in the same modern setting using the PFRPG rules as the basis. I will also tie in and update d20 Modern rules. Maybe some day I'll put up the rules I create (and playtest!) as a sort of PFRPG Modern PDF supplement.

Otherwise, I don't think anything else remotely resembling an "official" PFRPG Modern will appear.

This makes me a SAD PANDA! :(

that's too bad, I'll have to try and convert them myself then.

[Saurstalk]

I've already made a House Rule blend that allows a quick translation between D&D and d20 Modern: Lost in Translation. Hope it helps.

[Saurstalk]

Mike McArtor wrote:

My personal campaign setting uses a horrible Frankenstein's monster of D&D and d20 Modern rules. Once the current campaign wraps up in June, I plan on starting up another game in the same modern setting using the PFRPG rules as the basis. I will also tie in and update d20 Modern rules. Maybe some day I'll put up the rules I create (and playtest!) as a sort of PFRPG Modern PDF supplement.

Otherwise, I don't think anything else remotely resembling an "official" PFRPG Modern will appear.

Mike,

I'd love to see your Frankenstein (and compare it to mine). Any possibility that you will build a .pdf available for download for those of us who play d20 Modern as religiously, if not more than D&D.

[Jeremy Mac Donald]

Saurstalk wrote:

I've already made a House Rule blend that allows a quick translation between D&D and d20 Modern: Lost in Translation. Hope it helps.

This is pretty interesting and well done. However I think you need to include some kind of design notes as I was often not very clear where you were coming from in these rules. You know of course, but for a stranger that has never met you in person, its difficult to grasp what the intent is.

I get the impression that this is essentially the house rules you hand to your players (else why tell us how to generate ability scores?) put online but your players can quarry you and they've generally played enough to have some idea what your going for. Others might need a little help. Design notes not only tell us what your trying to do - it also allows us to vehemently disagree with you and throw the rule out before it gets deeply implemented into the game.

[Saurstalk]

Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:

Saurstalk wrote:

I've already made a House Rule blend that allows a quick translation between D&D and d20 Modern: Lost in Translation. Hope it helps.

This is pretty interesting and well done. However I think you need to include some kind of design notes as I was often not very clear where you were coming from in these rules. You know of course, but for a stranger that has never met you in person, its difficult to grasp what the intent is.

I get the impression that this is essentially the house rules you hand to your players (else why tell us how to generate ability scores?) put online but your players can quarry you and they've generally played enough to have some idea what your going for. Others might need a little help. Design notes not only tell us what your trying to do - it also allows us to vehemently disagree with you and throw the rule out before it gets deeply implemented into the game.

True. Trying to keep it simple. That's the underlying cause. If you have specific questions, please ask.

[Dale McCoy Jr]

Mike McArtor wrote:

Otherwise, I don't think anything else remotely resembling an "official" PFRPG Modern will appear.

This doesn't mean that another company could specialize in Modern gaming and use the base PRPG engine and meld it with d20 modern to make a largely compatable game, since the rules are OGL. If they do, I hope they come up with their own logo license. I also hope pathfinder's license closes a modern equivilent loophole so no company can make a modern game and use the pathfinder license.

[Saurstalk]

DMcCoy1693 wrote:

I also hope pathfinder's license closes a modern equivilent loophole so no company can make a modern game and use the pathfinder license.

Unless, of course, Paizo officially sanctions it. I can't imagine Paizo standing behind a product unless they truly believe in putting their name behind it. As such, if some 3rd party publisher other than Paizo was given Paizo's blessing, I'd at least be interested.

[Kevin Webb]

This is a re-imaging of the MSRD for the Pathfinder Role Playing Game. The dataset can be found at:
http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=11001

This is a beta file and is not complete yet. At the moment the only Core MSRD, (minus the advanced classes, they are coming later on), was converted over, (there are place holder files for the other settings).

A lot was changed to put into the Hero Lab Pathfinder dataset. Some of this was done due to software and programing skills limits. Some rules were changed to fit easier into the Pathfinder setting. I will go over a few to help navigate through the dataset.

Occupations are now traits. They are now assigned 2 class skills each.

Action and Reputation points are out and all Feats, Talents and/or Abilities were adjusted to fit the change.

Wealth Bonus is now a skill. All the gear and items have the original Wealth DC, but there was no real way of converting everything to gold and/or work in a Wealth roll otherwise. It’s not perfect, but close.

All classes get an AC bonus every other level.

The Base classes (the only ones in at the moment) are listed under NPC classes and all go up to 20th level with added new Talents.

Feats that are similar to a Pathfinder feat were not copied over. Just the new feats were put in.

Weapons – Are assigned either: simple, martial and/or exotic weapons.
There is no archaic weapon, and or firearm feats.

Skills – Skills were already rolled over into the Pathfinder setting were removed. Repair is rolled over into the craft skills. Treat injury was rolled over into heal, etc.

FX – same as feats, whatever was similar to a Pathfinder magic item and/or spell was not copied over. Just the new items and spells were put in.

Weapon Enhancements are under Item Powers, (like adding keen to a weapon).

There are a few Occult Languages added and are listed under Secret language.

That is all I can think of at the moment. More will be coming later on, but this is a good start for the community.

I can be reached on the Hero Lab forum under the user name: Frodie.

BTW – Thank you to everyone that helped out with this project, the Lone Wolf staff, ShadowChemosh, TCArknight, (who is doing a D20 Modern dataset for the Hero Labs D20 dataset), and many more! Thank you all for the help and ideas.

[Kevin Webb]

Oct - Update to the Hero Labs dataset can be found here:
http://www.d20moderndb.com/game-rules/rules-conversions/59-hero-lab-dataset -pathfinder-rpg-conversion-of-d20-modern

Here is an updated Modern Pathfinder dataset:

Added the d20Modern Database skill conversion.

A lot of bug fixes.

OGL parts from "Blood and Brains" from RPGObjects - trying to see if the prestige class will work as Archetypes - kind of so/so at the moment.

Still working on getting things closer to the MSRD, (like the Occupation traits - letting the user pick from a list of skills), and still need to input the advance classes, etc.

Kevin

[Kevin Webb]

This is a beta file and is not yet complete . At the moment, only the Core MSRD, (minus the advanced classes, they are coming later on), were converted over, (there are place holder files for the other settings).

Some rules were changed to fit easier into the Pathfinder setting. I will go over a few to help navigate through the dataset.
• Occupations are now traits. They should all work like the MSRD now.
• Action Points are at the moment left out, (you can include them by checking the Action Point Box in the Configure Hero screen), but until I can find a work around for Action Points, all Feats, Talents and/or Abilities were adjusted to fit the change.
• Wealth and Reputation Bonus is now Skills. All the gear and items have the original Wealth DC, but there was no real way of converting everything to gold and/or work in a Wealth roll otherwise. It’s not perfect, but close. All Occupations Traits and Feats have been adjusted to give the skills a bonus when need.
• All classes get an AC bonus every other level. There is a check box in the Configure Hero screen to “add or not add” this ability.
• The Base classes (the only ones in at the moment) are listed under NPC classes and all go up to 20th level with added new Talents.
• Feats that are similar to a Pathfinder feat were not copied over. Just the new feats were put in. There is no archaic weapon, and or firearm feats. See below.
• Weapons – Are assigned either: simple, martial and/or exotic weapons. Hand guns are basically Simple Weapons and Long Arms fall into Martial Weapons. If a weapon is Exotic, is just another Exotic weapon.
• Skills – Skills were already rolled over into the Pathfinder setting were removed. Treat injury was rolled over into heal. Navigation rolled over to Survival, Knowledge: theology and philosophy was rolled over to Knowledge: Religion.
• FX – same as feats, whatever was similar to a Pathfinder magic item and/or spell was not copied over. Just the new items and spells were put in.
• Weapon Enhancements are under Item Powers, (like adding keen to a weapon).
• There are a few Occult Languages added and are listed under Secret language.
• I also add from RPGObjects – “Blood and Brains” I have the character backgrounds, feats, FX items, spells and I add two Advance classes as Archetypes for Ranger and Sorcerer. IDK if it works well or not. If not I’ll change them back.
• Anyways a lot of bug fixes from gear, weapons, feats, etc. If you find more please let me know!
That is all I can think of at the moment. More will be coming later on, but this is a good start for the community.

I can be reached on the Hero Lab forum under the user name: Frodie.

Thank you to everyone that helped out with this project, the Lone Wolf staff, ShadowChemosh, TCArknight, (who is doing a D20 Modern dataset for the Hero Labs D20 dataset), and many more! Thank you all for the help and ideas.

Download link at this time:

http://forums.wolflair.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=239&d=1287155455

[Kevin Webb]

D20 Modern for the Pathfinder Hero Lab dataset - BIG Dec updates. The dataset can be downloaded at: http://www.d20moderndb.com/game-rules/rules-conversions/59-hero-lab-dataset -pathfinder-rpg-conversion-of-d20-modern

[Kevin Webb GRC Team]

Now on sale this weekend from the Pazio store for $3.99.

http://paizo.com/store/sale/gameRoomCreationSale/v5748btpy8khn&source=s earch

We also have the updated Hero Labs dataset at our website: www.gameroomcreations.com

[Kevin Webb GRC Team]

The Modern Path 2.0 is Free

During this week (Sept 7-14) the PDF is free. It is at the Pazio Store

[Kevin Webb GRC Team]

Thank everyone for a great week of downloading the pdf. There is still a little bit of time for the free download. I do hope everyone enjoyed the core rules.

[Kevin Webb GRC Team]

A great review has been posted for “The Modern Path 2.0”

At: http://roleplayerschronicle.com/?p=14061