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Where's the Beef...y Barbarian?

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I note that the barbarian is not in the alpha classes. Is the thought that barbarians are good as is, barbarians don't exist in Pathfinder, or that we haven't gotten to them yet?

Coming to the Beta Test. All the core classes will be there.
Paizo Employee Director of Games

As you will note at the end of the document, the Barbarian, along with the Druid, Paladin, and Sorcerer, will all be part of the Alpha release 2, coming soon.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Employee Creative Director

Yup; by the time the beta's here... all 11 core classes will be in there. Never fear! (although I'm gonna try to force Bulmahn to move the bard to release two... who needs barbarians anyway?)
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
As you will note at the end of the document,

Who reads all the way to the end before jumping in with questions? Losers.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Yup; by the time the beta's here... all 11 core classes will be in there. Never fear! (although I'm gonna try to force Bulmahn to move the bard to release two... who needs barbarians anyway?)

Try telling Conan you want to replace him with a minstrel...

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James Jacobs wrote:
all 11 core classes will be in there.

But, there are 15 core and OGC classes in the SRD.

Liberty's Edge
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Yup; by the time the beta's here... all 11 core classes will be in there.

11! 11!

There are 12 Iconics man! You gotta get the 12th Iconic class out SOON now that you're going OGL. :P
Liberty's Edge

Any plans to add more core classes?
Grand Lodge

Well, it says at the beginning that all the core classes remain the same except the ones listed. So barbarian is still there.

But eventually all the classes will be modified to fit Pathfinder RPG
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SirUrza wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Yup; by the time the beta's here... all 11 core classes will be in there.

11! 11!

There are 12 Iconics man! You gotta get the 12th Iconic class out SOON now that you're going OGL. :P

Huh? I hope you're not talking about the drek that is the Warlock?

Anyway I too wanted to see the barbarian. But I'm not really surprised, that one is going to take some effort to retool. Make some cool abilities than can only be used while raging.
Alex Draconis wrote:


Anyway I too wanted to see the barbarian. But I'm not really surprised, that one is going to take some effort to retool. Make some cool abilities than can only be used while raging.

I'd like to see more of a woodsman vs. the quick angry dude. I'd also want them to do something to stop people from 1 or 2 level dipping. I've heard several times "there's no reason to play a 20th level barbarian" or "the rage increase at higher levels aren't anuff" and something that shocked me "since the PHBII a fighter will out damage a barbarian".

I just shake my head and grab all the d12s (because no one else uses them) and try to show them what axe to mouth is all about.

I'm hoping to see something really kick ass.

Fizz
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