The Drow are....


4th Edition


Ok, so I'm re-reading Races & Classes when I come to the Drow. On page 50, in the chapter directly below the sidebar "Fixing Level Adjustment", the first sentence is "Another significant change is that the drow are fey, but in type only."

So does this mean that all elves are now fey?

Interesting...

Now as I liked the Feywild the instant I read about it. (I'm actually working out some details for a BESM campaign at the moment.) I was already considering giving all elvish races the fey type any way to better represent the ability to step into the Feywild seemingly with ease. I'm wondering if this will be something that will be seen in DD4E.

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Elves as Fey is an interesting idea, as much of the lore surrounding elves groups them in with the Faerie Folk. It would be quite a leap away from D&D's traditional Tolkien approach to elves, though.

At first glance, it looks like just a Type title, with no other game mechanics surrounding it, so I have to ask "What's the point?" If you're making elves, Drow or otherwise, Fey instead of humanoid in type, shouldn't there be some other change in racial abilities?


I wonder if they're fey if all the elves will be affected by cold iron - because if so, there's going to be a lot of happy orcs that I'm friends with...


Bah! They should have went with Rowling literature and made them all house slaves.


CourtFool wrote:
Bah! They should have went with Rowling literature and made them all house slaves.

ROFL!! Nice to see thy sharpened wit has not changed a beat Courts..


Larry Lichman wrote:

Elves as Fey is an interesting idea, as much of the lore surrounding elves groups them in with the Faerie Folk. It would be quite a leap away from D&D's traditional Tolkien approach to elves, though.

Good. I personally don't care for Tolkien's approach to elves. The whole "Oh, I'm so graceful and I live for like a millennia and I have an inherent talent for magic and I have a great connection with nature." thing pisses me off. I usually changed elves around. My setting doesn't really need tree-hugging morons who live for a long time. It makes history hard to write.

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CourtFool wrote:
Bah! They should have went with Rowling literature and made them all house slaves.

Rowling is litterature ?


Stereofm wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Bah! They should have went with Rowling literature and made them all house slaves.
Rowling is literature ?

Yeah, I was thinkin' about the same thing.


Barrow Wight wrote:
I wonder if they're fey if all the elves will be affected by cold iron - because if so, there's going to be a lot of happy orcs that I'm friends with...

Elves are already affected by cold iron :)

It would only be a big deal if elves are given damage resistance, which would really surprise me.


CourtFool wrote:
Bah! They should have went with Rowling literature and made them all house slaves.
Stereofm wrote:
Rowling is literature ?

Sorry, it is:

literature ...2. Imaginative or creative writing, especially of recognized artistic value.

:)


No, I meant if they were going to take that away, because then they'd have a handicap for the elves - and 4th edition doesn't allow penalties for characters anymore.

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Stereofm wrote:
Rowling is litterature ?

No, just litter. :)


Literature for 11 year old british boys...


Tatterdemalion wrote:
Barrow Wight wrote:
I wonder if they're fey if all the elves will be affected by cold iron - because if so, there's going to be a lot of happy orcs that I'm friends with...

Elves are already affected by cold iron :)

It would only be a big deal if elves are given damage resistance, which would really surprise me.

For the record, in 3rd/3.5, elves are not already affected by cold iron. Not in the PHB or in the MM is there a DR x/cold iron for elves. Nor in the entry for the elf or cold iron does it mention elves at all - and in the MM, elves are not given the fey type.

:)


Barrow Wight wrote:
No, I meant if they were going to take that away, because then they'd have a handicap for the elves - and 4th edition doesn't allow penalties for characters anymore.

And to clear up - I'll rephrase it

IF elves are now fey, will they take the effect cold iron has on fey away from them as opposed to how it stands in 3.5?

Liberty's Edge

Tatterdemalion wrote:

Sorry, it is:

literature ...2. Imaginative or creative writing, especially of recognized artistic value.

:)

Are you sure it can not be excluded on the basis of "especially"?

;)

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Arctaris wrote:
Good. I personally don't care for Tolkien's approach to elves. The whole "Oh, I'm so graceful and I live for like a millennia and I have an inherent talent for magic and I have a great connection with nature." thing pisses me off. I usually changed elves around. My setting doesn't really need tree-hugging morons who live for a long time. It makes history hard to write.

But you get exactely that in 4th. The normal Elves are Woodsy-doodsy Treehuggers and the Eladrin are the graceful, mystical, magical talented ones.

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Barrow Wight wrote:

For the record, in 3rd/3.5, elves are not already affected by cold iron. Not in the PHB or in the MM is there a DR x/cold iron for elves. Nor in the entry for the elf or cold iron does it mention elves at all - and in the MM, elves are not given the fey type.

:)

Funny, last time I ran my cold iron great scimitar through an elf, he was very affected.

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Shadrach of Ket wrote:
Barrow Wight wrote:

For the record, in 3rd/3.5, elves are not already affected by cold iron. Not in the PHB or in the MM is there a DR x/cold iron for elves. Nor in the entry for the elf or cold iron does it mention elves at all - and in the MM, elves are not given the fey type.

:)

Funny, last time I ran my cold iron great scimitar through an elf, he was very affected.

LOL!


For the record, I took two elves and ran them both through with scimitars - one steel, one cold iron - for some reason neither was able to shed much light on which was more painful, and both seemed to end up in the same state when the experiment was over. Further testing will begin as I round up more volunteers...

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