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While the 2nd Edition of the dictionary is a classic, I must admit that the 4e version is great:
An inexpensive edition of the book that SCRABBLE players call their bible. Ideal for recreational and school play. More than 100,000 playable two- to eight-letter words including 4,000 new entries. Includes variant spellings. Endorsed by the National SCRABBLE Association.
While the 2nd Edition of the dictionary is a classic, I must admit that the 4e version is great:
An inexpensive edition of the book that SCRABBLE players call their bible. Ideal for recreational and school play. More than 100,000 playable two- to eight-letter words including 4,000 new entries. Includes variant spellings. Endorsed by the National SCRABBLE Association.
Plus, in 4th edition, when you successfully look up a word, the dictionary can shift up to four squares away from its starting position without provoking a opportunity attack.
Scrabble's doomed. All those kids with World of Scrabblecraft.
WoS? Nooooo!!!!!
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Scrabble's doomed. All those kids with World of Scrabblecraft.WoS? Nooooo!!!!!
"Dude, Xs are so broken."
"What?"
"They get WAY higher scores than all the other letters."
"Yeah, but they're like... impossible to use."
"Not if you get really good with them. They you can kick everyone else's ass. They need to be nerfed bad."
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Scrabble's doomed. All those kids with World of Scrabblecraft.
Well, with the implementation The Parker Brothers Digital Initiative, it was bound to happen.
Forgot to mention, DD, despite your love of the clunky 2e system ;-) you do come across as pretty laid back at times.
I must take a moment to instruct you on the proper usage of the #e descriptor when speaking of editions.
3e = acceptable
4e = acceptableAny further editions (5e, 6e, 7e, etc) all acceptable.
However, it is unacceptable to taint earlier editions with this new fangled wannabe hip "e" lingo. You must spell out 2nd Edition, or 1st Edition, etc.
Such is the law.
Damn...I prolly just ruined that "pretty laid back at times" comment huh?
;D
I am pretty sure 1st edition is spelled with an A, two Ds and a capitol 7.
Scrabble's doomed. All those kids with World of Scrabblecraft.
LOL!
Mate: Hon could you turn that down-that noise makes me sick?
me: what noise is that?
mate: (pauses) *splortch* that one.
me: *splortch* that one? that *splortch* is just a Q triple scoring a U
mate: well turn it down please.
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I read somewhere that enWorld was in a "dark alliance" with WOTc, so I went and looked at the board; this doesn't seem to be a true assertion.
Morrus had a sticky up where he essentially said pro and anti's were emailing him a lot, threatening to leave, etc...., and both camps were accusing enWorld of being pro-4e or anti-4e...
He also said everybody quit threadcrapping; i.e. you don't have to respond to everybody's thread that you disagree with and start a bunch of s&%@e.
Well, that's all I got.
I've just been taking a break from the boards save for a post here or there. This will blow over as soon as 4e comes out. Because what'll happen then is that we'll have it, we'll see it, and we'll either convert or we won't.
I am glad to see this thread. All this heated anti-pro 4e debate is just jamming up the gears. To me it is like trying to disect a new movie eight months before it arrives in cinemas from a few scanty press releases.
I have been cautiously optimistic about 4e, although I really have been worried about the 4e preview products coming out of WotC these days. Honestly, there is just not a lot of information out there to make an informed descision about whether it will be better or worse than what we have now. Am I worried? Sure. Am I a little disappointed that my 3e stuff is obsolescing? Yep. Is it the Armageddon? Nope.
I have enough info to run 3e campaigns without ever repeating myself for decades. I just boosted this by a wonderful Christmas present my wife got me of about 40 Green Ronin suppliments that were on sale here. I figure there is probably twice as much information out there on 3e I haven't even looked at, and thanks to the Internet and the Grognard community I am sure there will be a "3e 4-eva" website cranking out new info for years after the official end of WotC's 3e support.
A game system, like a deity, only truly dies when people stop believing in it. I am sure that 3e's corpse will not be driting through the Astral Plane anytime soon.
I'm totally into 3e. I'm sure I can be sold on 4e if I ever actually get to see it... ;)I knew there was a reason I avoided the 4e threads. Well, that and not having any interest in the game (outside of the professional level of interest needed to retain my job).I'm curious, how does that work, exactly? I would have thought that a game editor would have to be into the game.
Ah! I hadn't realized that 3.5 and 4E counted as different games (though that makes sense). I thought by 'game' you meant 'D&D', which confused the bejeezus out of me.
Something else occurs to me.
When a person that you talk to day in and day out, or even one you are familiar with, says you are wrong about something and should look at it from a different point of view, while you may not agree, you tend to at least take a second to think about what you have said out of respect.
When someone that has never talked to you before comes out of nowhere, and doesn't tell you that you might be wrong and you should look at X or Y, but instead just says that you are foolish for having the opinion that you have and that you clearly don't understand the situation, I don't think you CAN get to the point of having a nice, civil conversation.
Just saying.
wow this is one conveluted thread with conveluted posts; whew.
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Man, I remember when they 'upgraded' checkers to chess. All those fancy moves, trying to remember how many squares the bishop could move without provoking an attack of opportunity from the knight, or losing his Dex bonus and becoming susceptible to the king's sneak attack.
Give me back my checkers, dammit!
Hey! A new thorn!
New Thorn: I have a personal preference for what Paizo publishes, so I'm going to post a thread, or in a thread, and use bullet points and bold sections, in an attempt to make it look like I know how Paizo's business works better than Paizo does, because I want my voice heard and not anyone else's, because there is a slight chance that my preference might not be in the majority.
And a new variation on an old thorn:
"Must I keep posting to explain myself?"
No. Really, you don't. The fact that you post in every single 4th edition thread and respond to every single even mildly anti 4th edition comment and essentially say the exact same thing in each and every one of your responses pretty much covers it.
In fact, at this point, its not what "side" you are on, but that you feel compelled to post in every single thread and say the exact same thing over and over again, constantly making sure to point out that you are the single light of reason in the entire thread.
ayyup! little doggy
Wooly, I need your help . . . I'm seriously itching to post . . . not because of any game related stuff, but because of the new trend of "I'm the prophet of All Things Rational, and if I don't respond dismissively to every single post that is even a little anti 4th edition, the Idiot Masses will be swayed by the Irrational Horde."
Help me Wooly-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope!
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There's no hope. It will just go on, and on, and on.
The only way to win is stay out of it.
Notice that about I'd estimate ZERO minds have been changed in that direction.
Oh, and maybe WOTC didn't "lie," but they weren't exactly direct when they were forthcoming, enough so that many people erroneously assumed that there was no 4e coming immediately. So they did b&+&$$$@ a lot of people, which even though they didn't "lie" per se, it's still tedious and insulting. "Well, we DID say it was a while away yet, but not how long of a while...ha ha, fooled you, dunce."
But you're not going to convince anyone. It's like religion or politics. It's a moot point.
Huuuuuurrrpph
Huuuuuurrrpph
I love your work.
There's no hope. It will just go on, and on, and on.
The only way to win is stay out of it.
Notice that about I'd estimate ZERO minds have been changed in that direction.
Oh, and maybe WOTC didn't "lie," but they weren't exactly direct when they were forthcoming, enough so that many people erroneously assumed that there was no 4e coming immediately. So they did b&%%&&%* a lot of people, which even though they didn't "lie" per se, it's still tedious and insulting. "Well, we DID say it was a while away yet, but not how long of a while...ha ha, fooled you, dunce."
But you're not going to convince anyone. It's like religion or politics. It's a moot point.
Oh, I understand. Its just when I see other people adopting the same attitude that used to just be evinced in one or two people, it gets frustrating.
So they did b@*~!~#~ a lot of peopleOne of your words exploded.
That's crazy.
You're my favorite thorn . . . besides, you have to be okay since you're a Dragonlance fan.
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You're my favorite thorn . . . besides, you have to be okay since you're a Dragonlance fan.So they did b@*~!~#~ a lot of peopleOne of your words exploded.
That's crazy.
Thanks Junior. (Hah!)
You're alright yourself. Dragonlance FTW!
Yeah!
Your point is stupid.
Sorry Wooly, I was weak.
Actually, I just couldn't stand to see Ed misquoted and even if I agree with the concept (the Realms shouldn't have been drastically changed), its just flat out wrong to twist what someone said to support your own point, and I had to say something.
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No, I agree with you there; I don't think it's a good idea to take a guy's quote and misconstrue it like that. It reminds me of when Reagan decided to use Bruce Springsteen's song to make one of his points, and I think it's galling as hell. I think that guy is definitely Sword of Damocles material.
I feel somewhat less soiled than before, but I did post a snarky review of that Classes and Races book... ;)
So my backyard isn't that fauncy either.
Ok, I feel calm again. Reading too much 4e boards gets me upset. Let's start a new character advice board.