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Male(s) 27 Ducks in a James suit Duck 27/ Expert 5
Kruelaid wrote:


James Keegan wrote:
And *I'm* the one with a 6 charisma?!
Ewwww. I guess you've gotta pay for that 30+ jump somehow.

I did it all for the proboscis.

Dark Archive

I do hope no one is trying to qualify for the dragon-king PrC.

Rags, what is your character concept? I'll try to post later the info that you don't have.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5
Radavel wrote:
I do hope no one is trying to qualify for the dragon-king PrC.

Keegan wants to know if there's a Dragon-Queen PrC.

Dark Archive

Heathansson wrote:
Radavel wrote:
I do hope no one is trying to qualify for the dragon-king PrC.
Keegan wants to know if there's a Dragon-Queen PrC.

They're all "kings" though there is a queen. Just a cosmetic difference.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

Oh, shoot. There I go dropping colloquialisms again...
a "drag queen" is a transvestite, so I was just jacking with Keegan.


Christ, I just don't want to take my IC roll even though they added up to 39; it just makes my character bio look like b#$&@%+~.

If I was back in Canada playing with my munchkin friends, I was be happy to rewrite my bio and minmax him to the nuts... but this_is_just_too_much_frickin_fun.


Male(s) 27 Ducks in a James suit Duck 27/ Expert 5
Heathansson wrote:
Radavel wrote:
I do hope no one is trying to qualify for the dragon-king PrC.
Keegan wants to know if there's a Dragon-Queen PrC.

Alas, my first character concept. Turns out the RAW Book of Erotic Fantasy PrC is horrendously overpowered, depending on whether you go pre-op or post-op. So I decided to buck the whole "trans-transvirtual" thing and play a six foot tall bug.


Ragadolf wrote:

ANY help is appreciated, I want to hurry and NOT hold you all up!

Thank you!

Arcane caster wanted, apply within.

Although, in some ways psionics is a little simpler that magic (esp in DS) and if you can sit down with the SRD for a while somewhere quiet you may agree.

And, I should ask, do you own Dragon 319? Because if you did, my understanding is that it would be legal to be in possession of a digital copy as a backup.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5
Ragadolf wrote:

Wow, I drop offline for ONE day to work, and look what happens!

You guys are postin' FOOLS!

Love the concepts I'm seeing, Can't wait to read all the fluff.
NOW, If I can only find what I need to get STARTED on mine! sheesh!

While I want to play psionics, (since I never have,) I also noted the distinct lack of a spellcaster, coincidentally my favorite type of class to play!

(Sigh), maybe a caster/Psi combo? With delusions of grandeur for future Avingion/Dragon King-Dom?

Try as I might, I can NOT seem to find a source which lists all of the DS starting goodness in one place! (I really need to get my Dragons out of storage!)

Can anyone help me?!? I couldn't seem to get the "Dark Sun Character Website" to work for me, do you have to KNOW what your doing and just put it in? Or did I not operate it right?!?

ANY help is appreciated, I want to hurry and NOT hold you all up!

Thank you!

It was in Dragon #319 the character thing; I don't know about the dragon king prestige class....

I never tried the online chargen thing; I always bollox that kinda thing.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
James Keegan wrote:
Alas, my first character concept. Turns out the RAW Book of Erotic Fantasy PrC is horrendously overpowered, depending on whether you go pre-op or post-op. So I decided to buck the whole "trans-transvirtual" thing and play a six foot tall bug.

Wait, what? There are actual rules in that book? I had no idea.


Radavel wrote:

I do hope no one is trying to qualify for the dragon-king PrC.

Rags, what is your character concept? I'll try to post later the info that you don't have.

Actually, I WAS thinking that originally! But fortunately, I stink at playing evil, and I really don't enjoy it.

OK, concept.
Any race, (I do enjoy playing unusual races, In this case Thri-Kreen or Bird-man would be an example of things close to what I have played in the past). Something that I can get away with playing at least a LITTLE crazy at times. (See previous stated example of Athasian elves)
For sure Psi or Mage. (Not really wanting to get all heavy into 'Defiling',... unless it made for a great role-playing moment!) OR combo of the two. Not really worried at this time about the Avingion Prc,...yet. ;)

Seriously, aiming for the Cerebremancer would be fine. It looks cool. Lots of power/spell choices, I'm great at playing people that like to avoid combat!

My biggest drawback to start Is, I can't find anything that tells me what Athasian races get for starting stats +/-, and how to build a FIRST level character with Athasian Psi abilities, etc.

(SIGH) Sorry to be a pest, Just been crazy at work this week, and this is sounding like a great group! I WANT to get this done so I can get involved! (Like several I have met on these boards, THIS is my only source of game fix at this time in my life!)

Thanks, hope I'll get this done soon!


Kruelaid wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

ANY help is appreciated, I want to hurry and NOT hold you all up!

Thank you!

Arcane caster wanted, apply within.

Although, in some ways psionics is a little simpler that magic (esp in DS) and if you can sit down with the SRD for a while somewhere quiet you may agree.

And, I should ask, do you own Dragon 319?

I DO! I DO! Unfortunately (I stated this earlier, but I think it got buried in the POST-al avalanche!) It is in DEEP storage, as I am currently living in a 2 bedroom apartment with a 4-person family!

AH!, The joys of POST-Katrina-ness!

For sure looking at Psi/Caster now. What race(s) get bonus to intelligence? (WITHOUT a neg to CON!) ;P

I'm thinking (? Race?) at 3rd level Psi and 1st level caster with 'Practiced Caster' Feat. With a race that gives bonus to Int and maybe Speed (Thri-Kreen?) or flight (Aarakroca?)

(As much as I normally like to avoid combat with my characters, I just had a sudden delusion of a Thri-Kreen Psi/Mage with Multiple touch attacks psi/spells going and all those arms to hit with!) (Yummy!)

Ooo! Possible fluff! Specially trained to be an agent for the Veiled society, but blew his first mission and got captured? That sounds like something I can work with!


Male(s) 27 Ducks in a James suit Duck 27/ Expert 5
Vattnisse wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
Alas, my first character concept. Turns out the RAW Book of Erotic Fantasy PrC is horrendously overpowered, depending on whether you go pre-op or post-op. So I decided to buck the whole "trans-transvirtual" thing and play a six foot tall bug.
Wait, what? There are actual rules in that book? I had no idea.

I just read it for the articles, I swear!


Kruelaid wrote:


And, I should ask, do you own Dragon 319?
Ragadolf wrote:


I DO! I DO! Unfortunately (I stated this earlier, but I think it got buried in the POST-al avalanche!) It is in DEEP storage, as I am currently living in a 2 bedroom apartment with a 4-person family!
AH!, The joys of POST-Katrina-ness!

Give me your email. I'll need a couple of hours to do my work. Mums the word.


Kruelaid wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:


And, I should ask, do you own Dragon 319?
Ragadolf wrote:


I DO! I DO! Unfortunately (I stated this earlier, but I think it got buried in the POST-al avalanche!) It is in DEEP storage, as I am currently living in a 2 bedroom apartment with a 4-person family!
AH!, The joys of POST-Katrina-ness!
Give me your email. I'll need a couple of hours to do my work. Mums the word.

The veiled society member tells you "Mum's the word,..."

Spoiler:

My 'game' email is,
ragadolf@veeshan.com

and thanks!

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
Ragadolf wrote:

I'm thinking (? Race?) at 3rd level Psi and 1st level caster with 'Practiced Caster' Feat. With a race that gives bonus to Int and maybe Speed (Thri-Kreen?) or flight (Aarakroca?)

(As much as I normally like to avoid combat with my characters, I just had a sudden delusion of a Thri-Kreen Psi/Mage with Multiple touch attacks psi/spells going and all those arms to hit with!) (Yummy!)

Thri-kreens have negative modifiers to both Int and Cha, as well as racial HD and ECL modifiers. They are quite possibly the worst thinkable option for spellcasters.

Which is precisely why I'm not playing a thri-kreen spellcaster. 'Cause if they were any good at that, I'd play one... ;D


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1
Kruelaid wrote:
This may sound nuts

Makes perfect sense to me, which probably means you should seek professional help. No worries! :)

James Keegan wrote:
I did it all for the proboscis.

Wait for it.

Ragadolf wrote:
You guys are postin' FOOLS!

I fully expect this PbP to rack up posts like a fiend.

Ragadolf wrote:
I couldn't seem to get the "Dark Sun Character Website" to work for me...ANY help is appreciated, I want to hurry and NOT hold you all up!

It's cool, take your time. The website is a little quirky sometimes, trying to figure out what those darn red arrows want you to click on.

Pterrans are way out there, and get a con boost.

Vattnisse wrote:
Which is precisely why I'm not playing a thri-kreen spellcaster. 'Cause if they were any good at that, I'd play one... ;D

That sort of thing just encourages me to run out and roll one. Which is probably why DM’s hate me...


The Huuuuuudge

ROFL

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Yah! Strong Bad for the win! I love that episode!

mwbeeler wrote:
Vattnisse wrote:
Which is precisely why I'm not playing a thri-kreen spellcaster. 'Cause if they were any good at that, I'd play one... ;D

That sort of thing just encourages me to run out and roll one. Which is probably why DM’s hate me...

To me, Dark Sun is a bit too lethal for screwy stuff like thri-kreen wizards. If I didn't play a monstrous PC, I'd played a spellcaster of sorts. But I wanted to play a bug...


Ragadolf wrote:


The veiled society member tells you "Mum's the word,..."
** spoiler omitted **

The weasel has landed.


Hey Beeler,

Because of my background, can I exchange escape artist with handle animal, making the former a class skill and the latter a cross-class?

I mean, all Aso ever did was chew the throats out of other vicious animals.

I admit that it's a good deal for me because his charisma sucks and his dex rocks, but my motivation in doing this is totally story driven, I swear it bro, on the dead body of the wicked witch of the west.

Dark Archive

Ragadolf wrote:


For sure Psi or Mage. (Not really wanting to get all heavy into 'Defiling',... unless it made for a great role-playing moment!) OR combo of the two. Not really worried at this time about the Avingion Prc,...yet. ;)

Seriously, aiming for the Cerebremancer would be fine. It looks cool. Lots of power/spell choices, I'm great at playing people that like to avoid combat!

My biggest drawback to start Is, I can't find anything that tells me what Athasian races get for starting stats +/-, and how to build a FIRST level character with Athasian Psi abilities, etc.

(SIGH) Sorry to be a pest, Just been crazy at work this week, and this is sounding like a great group! I WANT to get this done so I can get involved! (Like several I have met on these boards, THIS is my only source of game fix at this time in my life!)

Thanks, hope I'll get this done soon!

Will post what you need later... left my mag at home. But a psi/mage combo is one of the requisites for dragon king prc. But it's an epic PrC.


Gwaaaaaaaaeeerrrrrrrrrrr! Arrrrck!


Down, boy! I got a soap and I know how to use it!


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1
Kruelaid wrote:
Because of my background, can I exchange escape artist with handle animal, making the former a class skill and the latter a cross-class?

Hoy. Yeah, what the hell. But if you put one over on me, I’m dropping a house on you and stealing your shoes.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Rags - thri-kreen wizard; fluff-wise impossible, crunch-wise soooooo not good.


Reporting for inspection. Any errors are certainly not my fault and should be blamed on the DS character generator or Kruelaid's abuse of LSD in high school.

Aso is feeling pretty hip to the leash idea, Heathy. You are just about ugly enough for him to hang out with, but let's see who he bonds to, first--maybe a broad will come along.

Oh, and after the 39th edit my background is now art, five fairy dollars per reading.

And, ummm, bring it on Beeler.


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1
Aso wrote:
And, ummm, bring it on Beeler.

Working on getting pants on my son atm so I can drive my wife through the ice to get a pelvic exam...woooooO! Will look at it when I get back though. :)


mwbeeler wrote:
Aso wrote:
And, ummm, bring it on Beeler.
Working on getting pants on my son atm so I can drive my wife through the ice to get a pelvic exam...woooooO! Will look at it when I get back though. :)

the usual, eh?

Liberty's Edge

Fake Healer wrote:
Radik Aurel wrote:

Radik's base stats (5d4): 19, 16, 15, 11, 11, 10

Radik's final stats: Str 19, Dex 17 (15+2), Con 18 (16+2), Int 11, Wis 10, Cha 12 (11+1)

Did you roll that on Invisible Castle? If not you gotta use that for rolls and post a link. DM says so.

I rolled using dice. I'll try to post a link, but I'm not sure if it'll work.

...

Sorry, I'm having trouble plugging my USB cable into a d4. ;)

Dark Archive

Rags,

Aarakocra:

Spoiler:
+4 to Dex, -2 to Str

Dwarves:

Spoiler:
+4 to Con, +2 to Wis, -2 to Cha

Elans:

Spoiler:
+2 to Wis

Elf:

Spoiler:
+4 to Dex, -2 to Con

Half-elf:

Spoiler:
+2 to Dex

Half-giants:

Spoiler:
+2 to Str and Con, -2 to Dex

Human:

Spoiler:
+2 to any score, +2 to any other score

Maenad:

Spoiler:
+2 to Str, +4 to Cha

Mul:

Spoiler:
+2 to Str, +4 to Con

Pterran:

Spoiler:
+2 to Str, +2 to Con, -2 to Wis

Thri-kreen:

Spoiler:
+2 to Str, +4 to Dex, +2 to Wis, -2 to Int, -4 to Cha

Dark Archive

Anyone want to see the pre-requisites for entry into the dragon king PrC?

Spoiler:

Race: Any living humanoid
Alignment: Any nongood
Skills: Knowledge (arcana) 24 ranks, Knowledge (psionics) 24 ranks
Feats: Epic Spellcasting, Great Fortitude, any two metamagic feats and any two metapsionic feats
Spells: Must be able to cast 9th level arcane spells and manifest 6th level psionic powers
Special: Must perform a ritual that requires the sacrifice of no less than 1,000 HD of living creatures and 50,000 gp (or cp as per Athas).

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Ah. I guess we've gotta start hoarding those copper pieces.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5
Vattnisse wrote:
Ah. I guess we've gotta start hoarding those copper pieces.

I got enough in some jars at my house.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Copper!

We'll be lucky if we get ceramic by the sounds of it...


Radavel wrote:

Anyone want to see the pre-requisites for entry into the dragon king PrC?

** spoiler omitted **

I'm pretty sure that the req's for entry into the Avangion PrC are the same , except I think instead of SACRIFICING 1,000 HD worth of people, you have to PLANT and care for an insane garden.

Anybody got the number for Athas FTD?!? :D


Kruelaid wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:


The veiled society member tells you "Mum's the word,..."
** spoiler omitted **
The weasel has landed.

Um,... is the weasel hiding? ( I don't see any new mail in my inbox, I'll check again later.)

Thanks in advance!


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1
Kruelaid wrote:
the usual, eh?

Better. Good news this go around. Crazy specialist guy, finally.

Personally, I think they wussed out on the Dragon requirements.


Radavel wrote:

From Dragon 319

At 1st level, humans gain 3 pp and a 1st level power.

At 5th level, humans gain 3 additional points and a 2nd level power.

At 10th level, humans gain 5 additional points and a 3rd level power.

At 15th level, humans gain 7 additional points and a 4th level power.

Use character levels.

These power points and powers are in addition to those gained from the psion and psychic warrior classes.

Does this list hold true for humans only? Or do ALL races get something similar, just not as much as a human? Specifically elf and/or half-elf

(I'm getting there guys! slow at work, but working online only stinks!)

@MWBeeler,- I thought I saw the full stats in a post for Athasian Elf, can you recopy them where I can find them? And half elf too if it's not TOO much trouble? I'm trying to iron out an elf or 1/2 elf psion. with maybe 1 lvl of mage.

Thank you!


Ragadolf wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:


The veiled society member tells you "Mum's the word,..."
** spoiler omitted **
The weasel has landed.

Um,... is the weasel hiding? ( I don't see any new mail in my inbox, I'll check again later.)

Thanks in advance!

Yah, I sent you a bunch of files to veeshan.

Several reasons they may not arrive.

1)Your mail server has a low limit on file size.
2)Your server doesn't accept anything from my filthy Chinese yahoo.
3)The weasels ate it.

Now I'm sending the same from gmail.

Dark Archive

Rags, the list you are referring to only applies to humans.


mwbeeler wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
the usual, eh?

Better. Good news this go around. Crazy specialist guy, finally.

Personally, I think they wussed out on the Dragon requirements.

Is your wife ok?


@Kruelaid-
Thank you sir! That did it!

(Next time I'll just give you my Gmail address!)

NOW I have a clue! And a starting point!

Be back soon! (I hope!)


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1
Kruelaid wrote:
Is your wife ok?

She’s a little broken at the moment, but tougher than anyone I know. She’s small and our child was large. As a last ditch measure before giving up and dying, your thing that joins your pelvis together can burst like a pressure relief valve to let the baby out.

The bad news is the dye contrast made her ill and I she had to wake me up midday to look after the peanut while she hurled her guts out. They are both sleeping now, so I’m catching up slowly. Thanks for the concern though! :)

Ragadolf wrote:
NOW I have a clue! And a starting point

Are you good on the elf /half elf stats then?


Childbirth is exhilarating and frightening. We were in the Philippines and a week after a C-section delivery because the cord was around my daughter's neck, my wife started hemorrhaging. Luckily we were living almost next door to a hospital.

It was a LOT of blood. When they wheeled her away I thought I might be raising a kid alone.


Okay I added a bit to the bio guys, seeing as we are all going to be naked....

Spoilered but worth peeking.

Spoiler:
What is there really to say about the appearance of an unwashed, naked halfling with dreads and a flea infestation. His stare is intense and unflinching. His small and seemingly delicate bones are belied by thick cords of muscle. Sure, he stinks and his penis looks tiny--but Zuko has soap, and when you see the morning wood you won't be calling this dog-boy a halfling.

Aso's last memory is being struck from the front, square in the head, by something long and hard just as he glanced behind--luckily his skull proved harder than the obstacle. Going back from that electric moment: memories of hot wind in his hair, cooked meat hanging in mud-baked kiosks, the brush of people, robes, sweat, the sand and gravel beneath his pounding feet, the shouts of pursuers, elation--it had been too long. Only days before his debut in the gladiatorial pits: his escape from the geek cage. A glorious memory! The start of his brief but joyous freedom. Other memories, farther back: the cage where he had spent years pitted against animal after animal, the bray of gamblers, the bite of stones, sleep after sleep: terrible nightmares fading into the distant past. The woods, the smell of fresh water, moss, cool breezes, the caress of his mother, learning to hunt with his father: all echoes, memories of memories.

Watch out for this little dog of a man, readers; a day in the geek cage meant slaughtering deadly predators with only tooth and claw. His food: the skin, meat, or limbs he could tear off--his drink: the blood he could siphon... but only before the animals he killed could be dragged out by their chains to be eaten by the fat and the weak. A round-belly day for Aso was when he slaughtered an animal so large the handlers could not manage to get it out without being savaged. Those days they let him gnaw at it until he became slow enough that a brave man dared open the lid and drag the dead carcass out while prodding the gorged halfling off with spears. And how he has traveled! From week to week they moved him in his own wagon from town to city and back, bagging coins and sometimes even rinsing his cage out with sand. But never, ever, my friends, did men ever stand close to Aso's pen... well, not after the first time, anyway.

And now readers, a little social advice for anyone who picks up this sinuous and urine-reeking stray, or gods help you, for anyone followed home by him. When he does decide to talk, he stutters: do not finish his sentences for him. And never touch Aso while he is eating--don't even look at his food--not that you'd want to. And you'd best keep your shiny things hidden while he's around, not that he's much of a thief, but now and then he reckons it to be his and then you've got serious problems.


Ragadolf wrote:


Thank you sir! That did it!

np


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

wow been reading Dark Sun rules; they are more complicated than ever; if peeps are creating characters at an advanced level; what is being done about advanced gear for said characters; what are the guidelines being used?


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

We haven't got any gear - we've got nothing but the clothes on our backs... and some don't even have those.


mwbeeler wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Is your wife ok?

She’s a little broken at the moment, but tougher than anyone I know. She’s small and our child was large. As a last ditch measure before giving up and dying, your thing that joins your pelvis together can burst like a pressure relief valve to let the baby out.

The bad news is the dye contrast made her ill and I she had to wake me up midday to look after the peanut while she hurled her guts out. They are both sleeping now, so I’m catching up slowly. Thanks for the concern though! :)

Wow. Been there. I have 4 kids myself, (from 2 wives. Some of us never learn!) And both previous and current wife were "high-risk", and all 4 kids were delivered by Zipper,... I mean C-section!

Is this your first child? If so then read the following,... (Read it anyway, what the heck,...)

Spoiler:

"Sleeping is good! Enjoy the time while they are sleeping! Because it's NEVER LONG ENOUGH!" :D

mwbeeler wrote:
Are you good on the elf /half elf stats then?

Yes, quite. Thank you. I SHOULD have the basics up by late afternoon. And I SHOULD be able to have it finished by tomorrow! Thanks for everybody's help and patience!

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