ME. Born and Bred a NYGiants fan. I love football, played peewee, played popwarner, played postgrad starting my sophmore year in Boarding School(for those who don't know thats Junior College,so you could say I was pretty good). Had more than a few, D-1AA offers tore up my knee my Junior year, then again after coming back too soon from reconstructive surgery, once more as a Senior now I just watch from the couch and scream alot. Anyway the reason I started this post is because I am truly passionate about the game was wondering if anyone else enjoys the sport. If so I thought it would be cool to chat about the season and whats happening in the NFL.
How 'bout them Cowboys!!!!!
LOVE SPORTS (almost as much as gaming). Basketball is my main thing, but football is a close second.
Detroit Lions fan (i know, i know) . . .
Anything in particular you wanted to chat about?
Born and Bred a NYGiants fan. . . . now I just watch from the couch and scream alot.
Let me guess - Eli?
I'm more of a basketball fan myself but this has been a great year in football so far both in the NFL and NCAA.
I LOVE FOOTBALL!
College football is my favorite sport , followed by the NFL, and then college hoops.
Favorite teams: San Diego Chargers, Oklahoma State University Cowboys and the University of Arkansas Razorbacks.
I see the Chargers winning the AFC West and losing early in the playoffs. Hopefully I'm wrong. Let's go 'Bolts!
Anything in particular you wanted to chat about?
Yeah actually 2 things:
1: Will the Patriots go undefeated?
2: Why must I suffer through Eli (I will never be a Franchise Quaterback) Manning? I know alot of people say this now but I thought the Giants should have Drafted Rothlesberger, I had a 2 hour argument with a friend of mine after the Giants MORTGAGED THE FUTURE ON E-Lie.
Also a huge sports fan, but as a Canadian my interests lean towards hockey. I love tuning into Monday morning sport shows and getting caught up with the NFL though.
Go Pats! :-D
Huge football fan here too. I've played semi-pro since 2000 here in Denmark and even had a chance to play semi-pro in the US when I went to LA back in 2004 (played for the Inglewood Blackhawks team, just in case anyone follows semi-pro football in California).
I hope the Patriots will go undefeated, this coming Sunday against the Steelers and the Giants game are the only two stumbling blocks left (although the Giants are looking less and less scary... sorry! ;-)).
I was getting quite nervous when the Ravens got the ball back with 44 seconds on the clock on Monday Night. My heart was racing when the Hail Mary pass was caught, but luckily it was outside the endzone!
We don't get college games over here and because of the time difference I have to sit up until 6 a.m. each Sunday and Monday night to watch the late games. But hey, that's what real fans do, right?
I've seen a couple of college games the times I've been to the US, although only one of them was live at a stadium (and that one was actually in a sky box too!). It was a Marshall University game back in 2003.
Come to think of it, one of the games I saw on tv back then was actually with Eli Manning... :-D
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GO TIGERS!!!!! Going to the National Championship. Ohio who?
As for the NFL, I am traditionally a Saints fan, since I grew up down there. Now I live in Philadelphia, and am overjoyed whenever the Eagles lose. It isn't the team I hate, but the fans - bunch of friggin obnoxious psychos.
As for the Pats going undefeated - I'm not so sure. The Colts came close, as did Baltimore, but the most telling game was the Eagles. This was a team that, on paper, shouldn't have come anywhere near being a challenge for the Pats, and yet they almost won. The big differnce seemed to be that Philly changed up their defensive scheme. Baltimore did the same thing and almost came away with a win. Someone could still take them down. And let's not forget that one key injury to someone like Tom Brady could end it all in a heartbeat.
If they do go all the way, however, they will have deserved it. I'm not really a fan of the Pats, but I admire some of the players for staying with the team, even if it meant taking a pay cut. Belichick is not my favorite - he seems to be an arrogant SOB.
My other big thing with the NFL this year is the Packers. I've been a Bret Farve fan since watching him play in college. I'm glad to see they are one of the better teams in the NFC this year, but I still don't think they will go all the way. Who knows though.
In the end, I'm just waiting for 7 Jan, when I get to watch LSU take on Ohio and win the National Championship. The Buckeyes will have to change their name to the Blackeyes when the Tigers get through with them.
I was confused for a moment, until I realised you weren't talking about football at all, but that rather soft game where everyone wears padding in case they hurt themselves. Not a game for gentlemen.
Whereas e.g. rugby is a game for gentlemen?
Or do you mean our European version of football (aka soccer), where it's a requirement to have taken acting lessons so one can fall down dramatically as soon as an opponent is within spitting distance and then get up all indignant and with grand hand movements try to convince the judge that the other guy even called you girly names too? ;-)Mayhaps you're thinking about that cricket game? Also known as the only game that takes longer than baseball and is about twice as mindnumbingly boring. :-p
Try playing American football before you call it a soft game. I've played regular football, rugby and American football. I definitely know which one is the most demanding and actually requires the most tactical and intellectual knowledge... and no, it's neither regular football nor rugby.
Now, Aussie rules... those guys are just plain nuts. o.O
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:-) No idea, frankly. I have watched American Football, and they just seemed to run up and down until they fell over. I never really understood the rules of rugby, despite playing it for four years at school. And soccer is an over-hyped mostrosity that should be swept from the world by all right-thinking people.
Now cricket, that is a game....
Unfortunately, I'm a Giants fan as well, although the team I'm really passionate about is the NY Islanders hockey team.
As for the other football, I follow D.C. United and Tottenham Hotspur.
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Detroit Lions fan (i know, i know) . . .
I feel your pain brother, at least we have the Tigers, Red Wings and the Pistons!!!
GO ROUGHRIDERS!!!!
Oh, you meant NFL.
Greg
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GO ROUGHRIDERS!!!!
Oh, you meant NFL.
Greg
Wait, did you mean the Roughriders (Sask) or the Rough Riders (Ott)? I did used to watch the CFL years ago. BC Lions rule! Lui Passaglia! Roy Dewalt! Swervin Mervyn Fernandez! Hassan Abubakr! (actually, he wasn't on the Lions--Montreal I think--but I just always liked his name)
Oh yeah, football is my favorite sport. Washington Huskies (yeah, I know they've been down the last few years, but that's when the TRUE fans show their love instead of jumping off the bandwagon) and Seattle Seahawks.
Always sort of like the New Orleans Saints too. Probably cuz they were so bad for so many years and I always like to root for the underdog.
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There are people who don't? Big Sooner fan and loves the Browns.
I think there should be a playoff for NCAA Football. Not because my team didn't make it to the championship game. (we did lose to Colorado and Texas Tech).
MY fix
I think every team should join a conference. No out of conference games. That way we don't get teams playing North Texas State for the blind to pad their Wins and losses.
The top two teams of each conference go to a championship tournment
All of the other teams with winning records can still go to bowl games like an NIT.
There is enough bowl games to have playoff games to equal every saturday till Superbowl Sunday. It would be the greatest weekend since GENCON. With The championship game on Saturday and the Superbowl on Sunday it would turn into a national holiday.
Wait, did you mean the Roughriders (Sask) or the Rough Riders (Ott)? I did used to watch the CFL years ago. BC Lions rule! Lui Passaglia! Roy Dewalt! Swervin Mervyn Fernandez! Hassan Abubakr! (actually, he wasn't on the Lions--Montreal I think--but I just always liked his name)
SASK! Actually Ottawa RR are no more (and haven't been for a long time, around 10 years now). The team folded and was reborn as the Renegades for a few years (the previous owner still had rights to the RR name and wouldn't give it up). Then they folded again.
Greg
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There are people who don't? Big Sooner fan and loves the Browns.
I think there should be a playoff for NCAA Football. Not because my team didn't make it to the championship game. (we did lose to Colorado and Texas Tech).
MY fix
I think every team should join a conference. No out of conference games. That way we don't get teams playing North Texas State for the blind to pad their Wins and losses.The top two teams of each conference go to a championship tournment
All of the other teams with winning records can still go to bowl games like an NIT.
There is enough bowl games to have playoff games to equal every saturday till Superbowl Sunday. It would be the greatest weekend since GENCON. With The championship game on Saturday and the Superbowl on Sunday it would turn into a national holiday.
Every team in a conference would be nice, except that some conferences are tougher than others. Look at the SEC, for example. Many folks agree that it is one of the most difficult conferences to play in. Contrast that with a conference like CUSA. So the balance wouldn't be their from the start.
And I don't always think the motivation behind a "big" team playing a "small" team is just to pad their schedule with an easy win. More often than not, it is the smaller team who most desires to play the big team, simply because of the money they make. The big team, then gets a welcome break from what could otherwise a very difficult schedule. Look at LSU, for another example. They played 4 ranked teams in a row this season (Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, and Alabama), all of whom were also SEC opponents. They then played a game against Louisiana Tech. Can you blame them. Besides, any serious contender for the Championship doesn't want to make their schedule to easy, since part of the BCS calculation is strength of schedule.
Like it or not, I think the BCS is here to stay. It isn't the greatest system, but has done pretty well so far. Still, your dream is a good one, and hopefully one day something like it will come true. More football is never a bad thing.
We don't get college games over here and because of the time difference I have to sit up until 6 a.m. each Sunday and Monday night to watch the late games. But hey, that's what real fans do, right?
Damn straight they do.
There are people who don't? Big Sooner fan and loves the Browns. I think there should be a playoff for NCAA Football. Not because my team didn't make it to the championship game. (we did lose to Colorado and Texas Tech).
I have family from Cleveland well actually right outside Cleveland.
As for a playoff, they really should have one but outside of the SEC and The PAC-10 the rest of the conferences are 2 teams deep, Do not even bring up the the Big 12 to me outside of the Sooners the other teams who had any shot at the BCS were the products of pathetic schedules. Yes Kansas and Mizzou I am talking to you.
As for the CFL I think the NFL should adopt the Field Size they use in Canada if they want to spruce up the Offense, if that happened Reggie Bush might not be a total bust. Deuce Mcallister is the straw that stirs that drink.
I feel your pain brother, at least we have the Tigers, Red Wings and the Pistons!!!.
Detroit Lions fan (i know, i know) . . .
True!
As for the CFL I think the NFL should adopt the Field Size they use in Canada if they want to spruce up the Offense, if that happened Reggie Bush might not be a total bust. Deuce Mcallister is the straw that stirs that drink.
I think that's a good idea, (its one of the things I love about the CFL) but the limiting factor, which is huge, is stadium size. All the NFL (and college, for that matter) stadiums are build for American football field sizes and not much larger. How do I know? Because the (failed) attempt at having American teams in the CFL back in the 90s meant they really had to compromise on field size in order to get the teams in the league. They were cutting corners, literally, all over the place.
Greg
Questions for anyone interested in answering:
What 5 players would you want if you were building a Franchise?
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
Why did Joe Gibbs call 2 timeouts and lose the game for his Team when Rian more then likely would have missed from 51?
I love football.
Give up some props to the University of Hawaii Warriors, 12-0, WAC Champions, and the only undefeated football team in college.
Woooh hooo see yah Georgia Bulldogs in the Sugar Bowl.
As for the pros I am a life long Raiders fan. (tisk, tisk, yeahh they suck).
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Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
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Colt Brennan from U of Hawaii. Most TD passess in a college career 133. He through 48 tDs last year breaking the single season record and ended as the highest rated passer last year and went unnoticed by the Heisman Commitee. Check his highlight films he can play QB.
Colt Brennan from U of Hawaii. Most TD passess in a college career 133. He through 48 tDs last year breaking the single season record and ended as the highest rated passer last year and went unnoticed by the Heisman Commitee. Check his highlight films he can play QB....
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
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Darren McFadden; no doubt about it. Best RB since a guy named Barry Sanders. I sure hope he ends up with the Dolphins and not the Raiders (I felt dirty just typing that word).
Grew up in Dallas and went to HS during the glory years of the early 90s. Southlake Carrol was in our district in HS during their reign of terror in 3A, before their current reign of terror in 5A. Then I went to the University of Texas.
I never had a chance.
That said, I bit hard. I just interviewed Stewart Mandel of SI.com and Ivan Maisel of ESPN a few weeks back for a chapter in a book on online communities and journalism.
Also, only my wife has a higher placing on my myspace friends than Vince Young. Oh, and I stood all tongue-tied once at work many moons ago when Ricky Williams came into the computer store I worked at to buy his sister a new computer game. Kinda sad.
Teams are Longhorns, Cowboys, and the Titans (I could care less about Houston, and four ex-Horns play for Titans and one of them is Lord High Master His Holiness VY).
Darren McFadden; no doubt about it. Best RB since a guy named Barry Sanders. I sure hope he ends up with the Dolphins and not the Raiders (I felt dirty just typing that word).Colt Brennan from U of Hawaii. Most TD passess in a college career 133. He through 48 tDs last year breaking the single season record and ended as the highest rated passer last year and went unnoticed by the Heisman Commitee. Check his highlight films he can play QB....
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
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Guys, guys. Matt Ryan or Glen Dorsey will go number one depending on need.
And McFadden doesn't compare to what Ricky Williams or Adrian Peterson were in college, and I'll compare games any day to prove it. He'll do well, though. Definitely a top 4 pick. Colt is good, but concerns about him being a system QB will drop his stock come draft day.
Since the Dolphins have that top pick (all but given), I'd go Matt Ryan or maybe that Kentucky QB.
Questions for anyone interested in answering:
What 5 players would you want if you were building a Franchise?
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
Why did Joe Gibbs call 2 timeouts and lose the game for his Team when Rian more then likely would have missed from 51?
I'm so happy to find this thread.
Top 5--Tom Brady, Adrian Peterson, Albert Haynesworth, DeMarcus Ware, and VY to replace Brady in 3 years.
Gibbs is old, grief stricken, and I feel for the man. And I'm a diehard Cowboys fan.
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I love football.
Give up some props to the University of Hawaii Warriors, 12-0, WAC Champions, and the only undefeated football team in college.Woooh hooo see yah Georgia Bulldogs in the Sugar Bowl.
I agree, congrats are due to Hawaii for an excellent season. That being said, you do realize that Georgia is one of the better teams in what is one of the toughest conferences in all of college football? Not to mention that they are ranked 4th in the nation, and 5th in the BCS standings, compared to 10th all around for Hawaii. Even with two losses, Georgia stands a better than average chance of beating the crap out of them.
That being said, I'd certainly enjoy seeing Hawaii kick Georgia's ass, but I'm just not sure it will happen.
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Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
Probably Darren McFadden. He's had a good season, is one of the top Heisman contenders (although Tebow will probably win), and had an incredible game against the then #1 ranked LSU Tigers. Although maybe Dorsey can take that #1 spot if he has a good day against Ohio State.
Why did Joe Gibbs call 2 timeouts and lose the game for his Team when Rian more then likely would have missed from 51?
Even a veteran coach can make a mistake. I think that's exactly what happened.
Since the Dolphins have that top pick (all but given), I'd go Matt Ryan or maybe that Kentucky QB.
Only problem with "that Kentucky QB" is that Andre Woodson has terrible
mechanics somewhat like Vick and Young, but not quite as bad. He is not going to be as overated as Vick (Worst passer I have ever seen, I played with a better passer in Boarding school; no joke), but he is not going to be as good as Young(Who will never be confused with Moon, Cunningham; or McNabb as far as passing is concerned).
Questions for anyone interested in answering:
What 5 players would you want if you were building a Franchise?
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
Why did Joe Gibbs call 2 timeouts and lose the game for his Team when Rian more then likely would have missed from 51?
Answers to my questions:
Jay Cutler, Larry Fitzgerald, Joe Thomas, Justin Tuck; and Darelle RevisDorsey will be the #1 pick as he could be dominant from the get go
I think he is so worried about his legacy, that he has got his head so far up his rear he is looking out of his own mouth.
Questions for anyone interested in answering:
What 5 players would you want if you were building a Franchise?
Who do you think will be the #1 pick this year?
Why did Joe Gibbs call 2 timeouts and lose the game for his Team when Rian more then likely would have missed from 51?Answers to my questions:
Jay Cutler, Larry Fitzgerald, Joe Thomas, Justin Tuck; and Darelle RevisDorsey will be the #1 pick as he could be dominant from the get go
I think he is so worried about his legacy, that he has got his head so far up his rear he is looking out of his own mouth.
I can't see anyway that the Dolphins don't draft offense, particularly one of the QBs. It was one thing for Houston to take Mario Williams, but Cameron can't hate himself enough not to take a QB.
Though they might go for a McNabb trade.
I can't see anyway that the Dolphins don't draft offense, particularly one of the QBs. It was one thing for Houston to take Mario Williams, but Cameron can't hate himself enough not to take a QB.
Though they might go for a McNabb trade.
My reason for saying Dorsey is, I think that John Beck has played very well considering there are High School teams in California, Florida and Texas with more playmakers on offense.
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Soccer is an over-hyped mostrosity that should be swept from the world by all right-thinking people.
Not a game for gentlemen.
Surely you jest. Do you mean to imply that these two good ol' boys are not gentlemen? I am shocked! Shocked!
I've played regular football, rugby and American football. I definitely know which one is the most demanding and actually requires the most tactical and intellectual knowledge... and no, it's neither regular football nor rugby.
As someone who has played sport on both sides of the pond, my experience is the exact opposite of yours. I've found that American sport over-emphasizes the physical aspects and undervalues technique and tactics. I won't go as far to say that the American mindset and method stunts players, but it certainly retards their development...
Never seen the apeal of American football. Let's play for 10 seconds then stand around for ten mins...oh and let's bring on a whole new team now...
Rugby Union is the game they play in heaven.
Never seen the apeal of American football. Let's play for 10 seconds then stand around for ten mins...oh and let's bring on a whole new team now...
Rugby Union is the game they play in heaven.
American football makes more sense when you realize it isn't really a sport, but an excuse to show a lot of television commercials. ;P
Rugby is a bunch of guys who couldn't make an NFL roster ,players in the NFL would dominate Rugby, as for technique, if you've played Football than you'd know that Rugby is a simple game compared to American Football, I played both in Boarding school, and I can honestly say Lacrosse takes more skill than Rugby. So does Baseball; neither of which is have as difficult as Football.
Rugby is a bunch of guys who couldn't make an NFL roster ,players in the NFL would dominate Rugby...
I'm not sure how valid this opinion is considering that American players and American teams have always done miserably at the international level. Look at the results from this year's Rugby World Cup and where the U.S. placed. Teams from the NBA always get spanked by Italian and Spanish teams. The national baseball team — which is loaded with MLB players — is put down like a sick animal everytime it plays. So on and so forth. Until the U.S. figures out that being big and fast isn't enough, that you actually have to have skill and brains to succeed, I can't see the U.S. or American sport making any impact on the global scene.
That said, the solution has dawned on a few people. I read on ESPN, some months ago, that the NBA and Olympic Basketball team were actively trying to recruit players from the streetball circuit. Those organizations finally have realized that they need players with "magic" and a solid tactical awareness to be competitive in international tournaments. And it's only by being competitive do they have any hope of gaining respect and the opportunity to grow the sport beyond a being provincial curiosity.
The NFL on the other hand...is a sad case; apparently they didn't learn anything from the shameful fiasco that was NFL Europe...
I'm not sure how valid this opinion is considering that American players and American teams have always done miserably at the international level. Look at the results from this year's Rugby World Cup and where the U.S. placed.
Those guys are not NFL players, they are guys not good enough to play at the top college level for the most part. As for the National Baseball team before the WBC they were only college kids. These other teams play to gether all the time if the Best American Basketball players played together all year thay to would dominate.
All these national teams you talk about have been playing togeher for years, where are all these Great foreign players in the NBA? Most of them can not crack a starting lineup, thats where.
I'm not sure how valid this opinion is considering that American players and American teams have always done miserably at the international level. Look at the results from this year's Rugby World Cup and where the U.S. placed.Those guys are not NFL players, they are guys not good enough to play at the top college level for the most part. As for the National Baseball team before the WBC they were only college kids. These other teams play to gether all the time if the Best American Basketball players played together all year thay to would dominate.
All these national teams you talk about have been playing togeher for years, where are all these Great foreign players in the NBA? Most of them can not crack a starting lineup, thats where.
Still, that doesn't explain why NBA, NFL and MLB teams don't do well outside of the U.S. The one area where America is second-to-none is in the physical conditioning of its athletes. However, the thing that places like Europe and South America do very well is put together technically excellent teams that play dynamically and intelligently. So, winning the Super Bowl or the World Series or the NBA Championship doesn't mean much when that same team can't manage to beat foreign teams from infant leagues. Like I said previously, the U.S. is never going to field complete teams relying purely on physical prowess. And if teams from the "Big Three" can't do the job internationally, all that marketing in China and Europe is a waste of time...
I can understand your point, but there is not a team anywhere in the world that will beat an NFL team, it has never happened, if world competion played by the Old NBA rules where there were no zones allowed they would not have stood a chance especially when you consider that the new American Basketball team with the absolute best players in the league spanked everyone at the olympic qualifier and that was without any real chemistry, again against teams with years togethr.