Pathfinder fiction? Short stories, novels, etc?


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Liberty's Edge

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I asked if before and got dead silence on the topic, guess at the time Pathfinder and the iconics were too new.

So I'm going to ask again. I'm stubborn like that.

Anyone interested in reading Pathfinder fiction? Novels or short stories with the Iconics as the leads? I know I am. James and the crew seem to have a pretty clear view of the Iconics, their personalities and histories about them they haven't yet revealed. So am I the only one wanting? :)

Sovereign Court

I'd definitely go for that. It would be something to give my players to read to get a feel for the setting.

But the stories shouldn't HAVE to feature the iconics. The iconics are fine, but each individual writer should be able to make his own characters if he chooses.

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder novels were discussed during yesterday night's chat. Erik asked us what we would like to see in those novels.

Go see my post in "#pathfinder" tread for some more info about what came out of that discussion.

Liberty's Edge

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Zootcat wrote:
But the stories shouldn't HAVE to feature the iconics. The iconics are fine, but each individual writer should be able to make his own characters if he chooses.

Well I wasn't saying they MUST feature the iconics, but I'd definitely like some stories with the iconics.

Djoc wrote:
Pathfinder novels were discussed during yesterday night's chat. Erik asked us what we would like to see in those novels. Go see my post in "#pathfinder" tread for some more info about what came out of that discussion.

Yeap saw it, but it's stuff they're tossing around and I'd hate to see the iconics left out. What can I say, I like the party of 4 we have and would love to see them as the stars in the novels.

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SirUrza wrote:
What can I say, I like the party of 4 we have...

Not to nitpick, but we actually have 12 iconics planned. Only 4 have been made public and only 5 have been illustrated.

Scarab Sages

Mike McArtor wrote:
Only 4 have been made public and only 5 have been illustrated.

That means you're hiding something from us ;p


SirUrza wrote:
Anyone interested in reading Pathfinder fiction? Novels or short stories with the Iconics as the leads? I know I am. James and the crew seem to have a pretty clear view of the Iconics, their personalities and histories about them they haven't yet revealed. So am I the only one wanting? :)

I would love to add these to my bookshelf and read them as well.

Stories involving the Iconics would be what I'd like to read, especially if there are a dozen of them to mix and match.

One of the stories needs to involve a rocket ship to Akiton, the Red Planet orbiting Golarion's star!


I would buy Pathfinder fiction. I prefer novels, but an anthology would be fine also.

Dark Archive Contributor

I would love to WRITE Golarion fic.

^_^

(Now to just hope Erik sees this.)

Liberty's Edge

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Mike McArtor wrote:
Not to nitpick, but we actually have 12 iconics planned. Only 4 have been made public and only 5 have been illustrated.

True.. but I'd say Seoni's got a fanbase around these parts. :P

Djoc wrote:
That means you're hiding something from us ;p

They're always hiding something from us. :)

Mike McArtor wrote:
I would love to WRITE Golarion fic. ^_^ (Now to just hope Erik sees this.)

Well then maybe you should.. I dunno.. accidentally set this post as his homepage on his office computer over the weekend. ;)

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Mike McArtor wrote:

I would love to WRITE Golarion fic.

^_^

(Now to just hope Erik sees this.)

DITTO!!!

::Hides::

Liberty's Edge

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OMG.. that was a random pop up of non-silliness... we might just have something here. :)

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

I think all of us would like to write Pathfinder fiction, Mike. :)

--Erik

Liberty's Edge

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Erik Mona wrote:
I think all of us would like to write Pathfinder fiction, Mike. :)

Well, make it happen! :)

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SirUrza wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
I think all of us would like to write Pathfinder fiction, Mike. :)
Well, make it happen! :)

I like this man's thinking, Erik. ^_^

Liberty's Edge

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Mike McArtor wrote:
I like this man's thinking, Erik. ^_^

People usually do when I'm being positive. :)

Now if only I hadn't stopped writing 8 years ago, I'd demand the first crack at it.. after a thorough interrogation of James, Erik, and everyone else involved that'd have a say in the personalities and histories of the first 4 iconics. :)


This could be a good way to start a submission guide type thing. Do a short story contest amongst the board members, taking the best however many stories and putting a few of them in Pathfinder, or possibly on Paizo.com.


Fraust wrote:
This could be a good way to start a submission guide type thing. Do a short story contest amongst the board members, taking the best however many stories and putting a few of them in Pathfinder, or possibly on Paizo.com.

I like this man's thinking. There can be small Pathfinder's Digest featuring the best short stories from board members that can be available for suscribers. It can be done in PDF format to save on print if need be, but I would like a paper copy as well. That gives everyone a chance to participate in this new world.

Liberty's Edge

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I'm against open submissions and such for Pathfinder fiction until we get some established canon that fans everywhere can't break. :P

I was shocked by the entry in the blog about how many people couldn't follow the guidelines for the GameMastery module contest.

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Fraust wrote:
This could be a good way to start a submission guide type thing. Do a short story contest amongst the board members, taking the best however many stories and putting a few of them in Pathfinder, or possibly on Paizo.com.

This is not going to happen. Our experience from Dragon shows that taking fiction submissions from fans is not the way to go. My experience as an editor of a literary journal supports that finding.

We know people are dying to write for us, but keep in mind that we're not the same company we were when we had Dragon. Your best bet at being discovered in the industry REMAINS Dragon and Dungeon. Do good work there, build a reputation for yourself, and you might just find us knocking on your door. It's the opposite of how Paizo and WotC have acquired freelancers in the past (with us finding them and WotC contacting them), but it's the new world order.

Scarab Sages

Mike McArtor wrote:
This is not going to happen. Our experience from Dragon shows that taking fiction submissions from fans is not the way to go. My experience as an editor of a literary journal supports that finding.

I can only imagine the kind of stuff you've seen.

Actually, I probably can't even imagine it.


Depressing news, but completely understandable.

Would there be an issue with people posting fan fiction on the boards here? Just for the sake of writing.

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Ungoded wrote:

I can only imagine the kind of stuff you've seen.

Actually, I probably can't even imagine it.

They came at us at dawn...

*shudder*

Fraust wrote:
Would there be an issue with people posting fan fiction on the boards here? Just for the sake of writing.

No issue at all. As long as you don't try to sell it, it remains fanfic, and fanfic is cool. :)


Killer :)...now I just need to stop being lazy...

Sczarni

Fraust wrote:
Killer :)...now I just need to stop being lazy...

do NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month) its a challenge to try 175 page novel in the month of November. I'm most likly going to do mine based in/around Riddleport (any more information on that area the crew wants to give me would be nice.....) We could make group and meet in the chat room to bounce ideas if anyone else wants to do one...


I just want to chime in and say that I'd totally buy and read Pathfinder Fiction, be it full-blown novels, an anthology of short stories, some entries in Pathfinder, whatever.

Liberty's Edge

I agree, I would argue against fan fiction, and for in-house writing...or China Miéville, the greatest living (young) writer in his genre who's not 75 years old... and despite his poor political affiliations, his monsters are really cool...

Liberty's Edge

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I love how this thread got resurrected out of no where. :)


I am sure you all at Paizo are a bit overwhelmed with the possible edition switch and getting your other projects to the printer, but I am curious if Pathfinder fiction is still a viable option in the future.

Thank you in advance for any information.

Cheers

Liberty's Edge

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Well the last chat or the chat before it they said it was an option they're looking into. James needs free time it seems. :)


Mike McArtor wrote:


No issue at all. As long as you don't try to sell it, it remains fanfic, and fanfic is cool. :)

Aw, thanks, Mike. I think you're cool too.


Fraust wrote:


Would there be an issue with people posting fan fiction on the boards here?

Please don't post me to the boards! Oh lord, why hast thou forsaken me?!


Andrew Turner wrote:
I would argue against fan fiction

Fractious contrarian!

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Cpt_kirstov wrote:
do NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month) its a challenge to try 175 page novel in the month of November. I'm most likly going to do mine based in/around Riddleport (any more information on that area the crew wants to give me would be nice.....) We could make group and meet in the chat room to bounce ideas if anyone else wants to do one...

Golorian NaNoWriMo? That would be all kinds of cool. I'm enjoying writing my IC diary for my RotRL character so much that I'd adore the idea of trying something a little more substantial.

I doubt we'll be done with RotRL in time to do the further adventures of my little Mvashti (if she survives) which is a shame but I have all sorts of ideas for other characters and nowhere near enough planned Golorian games to play them in so a bit of fic would be cool.

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SirUrza wrote:
Well the last chat or the chat before it they said it was an option they're looking into. James needs free time it seems. :)

I'd be quite interested in this (although I am about nine novels behind at the moment, between Planet Stories, SW:Legacy, FR/Eberron Novels, general Novels, RPing Sourcebooks, a 2 Year Old and a 1 Month Old!)

Pathfinder Novels would be really good idea (another Sub for my Superscriber Tag), but even better would be a section of PF set aside for a Short Story. Short Stories featuring each of the Iconics would be a good place to start, but after that stories featuring other Characters/Monsters would be very welcome (along with an accompanying Stat Block for the Character and an entry in the Bestiary for the Monsters).


That's a really good idea, especially the iconics ones. What can I see, I love the iconics. So much. It hurts sometimes...

Sczarni

Kayos. wrote:

Golorian NaNoWriMo? That would be all kinds of cool. I'm enjoying writing my IC diary for my RotRL character so much that I'd adore the idea of trying something a little more substantial.

Yeah, I got a new job at the same time as NaNoWriMo, so I never got it off the ground... I think I ended around 10,000 words because I found myself posting on these boards way too much, and driving to and from the job (thats 2-3 hours in the car depending on Boston traffic)

Liberty's Edge

I'm going to be doing my own short-stories based on my experiences playing CotCT and posting it in that forum.

I'd love to see fan stories collected like the Star Trek "Strange New World" books published and canonized into the setting. It'd be an awesome RPG superstar thing while we wait on an edition decision.

Liberty's Edge

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flash_cxxi wrote:
Short Stories featuring each of the Iconics would be a good place to start

Yeap, all about the Iconic fiction here. :)

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I've added a page on the Pathfinder Wiki website for fanfic if anyone has any they want to post.

Liberty's Edge

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I've been meaning, wanting, thinking about writing some fan fiction, but I just haven't made myself do it yet. :)

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SirUrza wrote:
I've been meaning, wanting, thinking about writing some fan fiction, but I just haven't made myself do it yet. :)

Yeah writing and submitting a Short Story is something I've always wanted to do. Back in the day (High School) I was a really good fiction writer (my English teacher even wanted to enter one of my stories in a Young Writer's Awards thing). I've always been good at writing fiction and really bad (well not really bad but petty close) at writing essays... go figure!

I have unsuccessfully tried to start writing again a couple of times, but life just seems to get in the way! =(
While I don't think I could actually pen anything of Novel status, I could definately give writing a Short Story a good go.

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I would love to see some Pathfinder fiction! I'd buy that, especially if Paizo could get Elaine Cunningham to write some.


I'd definitely read Pathfinder fiction if it were available. I'd hope it would be well-written fiction, obviously. You can't just plop someone in front of a word processor with a vague notion of the characters and tell them "crank out a novel in a month" (huh... I do much the same thing every year though, funny that XD). Now, I don't mean the prose has to be Tolkien, but something along the lines of Robert E. Howard or some of the older fantasy authors that Paizo has been republishing lately would be good. Or like Moorcock, or Lloyd Alexander. It doesn't have to feel like an epic, but it ought to be well-written.

Anyway, I'd like to see it. If anyone on the Paizo crew is good at fiction writing, they should probably get the job.


I'd be interested in reading a Pathfinder short story anthology like the one done for Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed. I would prefer short story collections because people seem to be willing to try different things in that kind of format. Most of the shared world novels tend to run together in my brain as generic epic fantasy. I honestly can't even remember what setting most of them were in, sometimes I can't even remember the company. I just have a vague memory of the plot. Short stories tend to stick with me more in this kind of situation.


Probably fun, but I'm not a fan of iconics. Allways seems odd to me somehow.

Scarab Sages

I had an idea last week for a writing contest and this seems like a good place/time to share the idea.

Harrowing Tales: 5-10,000 word short stories. Each one must be based on one of the Harrow Cards. Don't know how well it would actually work on a message board (that's a lot of reading) but I thought it was a neat idea when I had it.

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Wicht wrote:

I had an idea last week for a writing contest and this seems like a good place/time to share the idea.

Harrowing Tales: 5-10,000 word short stories. Each one must be based on one of the Harrow Cards. Don't know how well it would actually work on a message board (that's a lot of reading) but I thought it was a neat idea when I had it.

Sounds like fun.

Scarab Sages

Tarren Dei wrote:
Sounds like fun.

I guess the question that needs answered is whether Paizo would, as a company, have any desire to have a contest like this for (as of yet) unpublished authors or whether this is something that some dedicated fans should just do (not really a contest but a message board project).

I have discovered that Paizo does not accept unsolicited material so there is no use in anyone just sending them a manuscript.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

They've addressed ideas like this before, the short and sweet answer is no. They don't have the time to read all the multipage short story submissions they would receive.

Between the 3 Pathfinder lines and creating the RPG, they probably even have less time then before.

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