Slumbering Tsar, Part 1: The Desolation

[Eric Tillemans]

I had read this thread a couple of months back, but caught up with recent events and now I want the adventures even more. Please publish!!

[Mr Baron]

Greg,

Glad to hear that some progress is being made. I personally would love to see a Necro-Paizo-Greg product released for Pathfinder RPG. My comments to Clark & Lisa & Erik are "Bring it on!"

I have no doubt that this is going to be awesome product!

Cheers!

[Kensanata]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

What can you do...continue to show an interest in this.

Show! Show!

I'm still playing 3.5 and as far as I'm concerned, just make it available as fast as possible. No conversion necessary, as far as I'm concerned. I'm buying it anyway.

[DaveMage]

Still very interested!

[Black Tom]

Me too!

[Rauol_Duke]

As am I. Would order today if it was available.

[Chris Mortika]

I concur. It's a combination of a strong author, who's taken pride in the work, a good company, and the rules system I prefer.

[BenS]

Well, it's just been announced that NG will be supporting Pathfinder. I wonder if that means we can finally look forward to this? I certainly hope so...

[Erik Mona]

This is very near the top of the pile of stuff we're considering. It helps that it is already written, and that is by Greg A. "Istivin Trilogy Made Me the Modern God That I Am" Vaughan.

[DaveMage]

Erik Mona wrote:

This is very near the top of the pile of stuff we're considering. It helps that it is already written, and that is by Greg A. "Istivin Trilogy Made Me the Modern God That I Am" Vaughan.

Excellent...

/Burns

[BenS]

Erik Mona wrote:

This is very near the top of the pile of stuff we're considering. It helps that it is already written, and that is by Greg A. "Istivin Trilogy Made Me the Modern God That I Am" Vaughan.

If it'll sweeten the pot, my original offer of buying, um, lots of these to redistribute to drum up interest still stands.

[Rauol_Duke]

Erik Mona wrote:

This is very near the top of the pile of stuff we're considering. It helps that it is already written, and that is by Greg A. "Istivin Trilogy Made Me the Modern God That I Am" Vaughan.

Woo Hoo!!!

[Tharen the Damned]

Sounds good!
Of course I am still interested too!

[amethal]

I am also very interested.

It would be great if it finally saw the light of day.

[DitheringFool]

I've been anxiously waiting for this for years! You bet I'm in!

[Jason Grubiak]

A 3rd edition adventure thats already written would a a heck of a lot easier to convert to Pathfinder than 4E.

If this ends up a Pathfinder rules trilogy of adventures I will be first in line to order them.

[Eric Tillemans]

Why aren't these published yet? Still waiting...

[Mairkurion {tm}]

I believe the hint that has been given is that they won't be published before the new ruleset is out.

[Omote]

For the love of all things holy (and because this is Necormancer Games) and unholy, PLEASE release the Slumnbering Tsar series! We have only been waiting for 2+ years already. Sheesh. However, if Slumbering does go over to Pathfinder, I know a lot of people who will switch over (to Pathfinder) for sure!

-O

[Dark_Mistress]

Until the Pathfinder RPG rules are done and a license to make products for it is out or the GSL is revised to Necro's liking their won't be new products. But once one or both is done their will be new necro products. That only question right now is which of the long awaited products will be made for which system.

Personally i think the first new Necro products will be fall 09. Likely Oct or Nov but thats just a guess on some of the stuff said on the Necro boards.

[DaveMage]

Remember when it was announced that the revised GSL was coming out "soon" last August?

Good times.

[Frost]

Well, it is "slumbering" after all, right?

<ducks and runs for cover>

[DaveMage]

I'm ready for it to have "Unquiet Slumber"

(For the Sleepers...In That Quiet Earth)

[Dark_Mistress]

Well since Clark has said necro will for sure support Pathfinder now. I have a bit more hope this will be Pathfinder/3.5e book and not a 4e.

[Savage_ScreenMonkey]

Since its already been written for some time now at least the conversion work to Pathfinder will be minimal. Or at least not as crazy as it would be if it was released as 4e.

On a brighter note Im sure the wait will have been worth it.

[Tambryn]

It is weird to read through this thread again and see that it is still alive. This has certainly seemed like an uphill battle. But since it will make so many people happy, I will also happily consume this and other NECRO goodness through Paizo. Now that I am here you can be certain of the success of this product. Go ahead and print it Eric, tell them Tam said they have the green light.

Tam

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Tam green-lighted it, Erik.

[DaveMage]

Yay!

Who knew the power was with Tam?

;)

[Mairkurion {tm}]

I thought "tam" was the funny floppy red hat with the golden tassle I have to pay so much money for. If I had known it had power, I'd have gotten it way in advance!

[Tambryn]

While I wish I did indeed have the power that with the wave of a hand would allow me to start the magical Paizo printing golem to spewing forth this AP, I know you guys will do it right. And "right" takes time. That knowledge in no way works to diminish my eagerness to get my grubby hands on it though. Until then I remain in the crowd. A crowd of ten thousand. Ten thousand with our purple d20 held high.

Tam

[BV210]

If only your poor PCs knew what horror awaited them as you clamor for this mega-adventure trilogy. I still have nightmares . . .

[Mr Baron]

I am still holding out for a 2009 release using the new rule set!

Maybe for Christmas?

[Mairkurion {tm}]

Watch: It'll happen.

[DitheringFool]

BV210 wrote:

If only your poor PCs knew what horror awaited them as you clamor for this mega-adventure trilogy. I still have nightmares . . .

you tease too much...

[DaveMage]

So, is the Slumbering Tsar awake YET!?!?!?

C'mon, it's got Paths to Find.....

[Chris Mortika]

Well, it's kind of a race to see which will hit the stands first: Slumbering Tsar or Nick Logue's Razor Coast.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Hmm, I hadn't thought of it like that. New motivation to make sure I defeat Logue yet again. ;-)

If it's any consolation, (probably not) I will be running part of ST1 for a couple sessions at Paizo Con, so it'll at least be partly hitting the public first (unless Logue really puts it in gear).

We're really in two different situations, though:

Nick is trying to find the time to fit RC in his schedule, and I'm trying to find the Paizo/NG schedule to fit my time on ST into. Either way, I suspect you'll see RC first since ST is still not formally on the Paizo schedule to my knowledge.

I'll try to corner Erik and Clark about it at Paizo Con to get the ball rolling again since the Pathfinder RPG and RPG Superstar monsters are now finally out of the way. Those seemed to eat up a lot of time and scheduling.

[DitheringFool]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

We're really in two different situations, though:

That and he took our money...

sorry to be so vicious, but come on...I can't go to PaizoCon and now I hear you'll be pimping the game I've been pinning over and championing for years. Well, now I'm not feeling very light hearted.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Hopefully pimpage = publication sooner. But I'll look into some kind of national tour at game stores. ;-)

And he got my money, too, but I know he's good for it. It stinks that his schedule collapsed on him like it did, but I've got faith in him that it'll be worth the wait. Though, undoubtedly ST will be way,way, way better.

[Mr Baron]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Hopefully pimpage = publication sooner. But I'll look into some kind of national tour at game stores. ;-)

And he got my money, too, but I know he's good for it. It stinks that his schedule collapsed on him like it did, but I've got faith in him that it'll be worth the wait. Though, undoubtedly ST will be way,way, way better.

Greg,

At this point would you say that it is only a question of time before it gets released by Necro/Paizo using the PFRPG rules? With a probably date of late 2009/early 2010?

Cheers!

[DitheringFool]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Hopefully pimpage = publication sooner. But I'll look into some kind of national tour at game stores. ;-)

And he got my money, too, but I know he's good for it. It stinks that his schedule collapsed on him like it did, but I've got faith in him that it'll be worth the wait. Though, undoubtedly ST will be way,way, way better.

How much money would someone have to donate to the Pimp Slumbering Tsar fund to beta test it at home under full legal hush-hush?

...yeah, I'm that desperate.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Mr Baron wrote:

Greg,

At this point would you say that it is only a question of time before it gets released by Necro/Paizo using the PFRPG rules? With a probably date of late 2009/early 2010?

Cheers!

I'd say at least part of that is probably true. Both Erik and Clark have expressed strong interest in releasing it as PFRPG, so if I were to put my money on it, I'd say it'll be PFRPG. As to the timing of it, as far as I know it is not formally on any schedule yet so I would guess the lag time is greater than that if it's not already in the works. Erik and/or Clark would be better able to answer that.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

DitheringFool wrote:

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Hopefully pimpage = publication sooner. But I'll look into some kind of national tour at game stores. ;-)

And he got my money, too, but I know he's good for it. It stinks that his schedule collapsed on him like it did, but I've got faith in him that it'll be worth the wait. Though, undoubtedly ST will be way,way, way better.

How much money would someone have to donate to the Pimp Slumbering Tsar fund to beta test it at home under full legal hush-hush?

...yeah, I'm that desperate.

Wow, I'm probably that desperate too--I mean if the money goes to me, that is ;-) I'll bounce that off the guys at Paizo Con.

[Matthew Morris]

hmm, so if we're trying to find ST, is that Tsar Search?

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Ugh...

[Mr Baron]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Mr Baron wrote:

Greg,

At this point would you say that it is only a question of time before it gets released by Necro/Paizo using the PFRPG rules? With a probably date of late 2009/early 2010?

Cheers!

I'd say at least part of that is probably true. Both Erik and Clark have expressed strong interest in releasing it as PFRPG, so if I were to put my money on it, I'd say it'll be PFRPG. As to the timing of it, as far as I know it is not formally on any schedule yet so I would guess the lag time is greater than that if it's not already in the works. Erik and/or Clark would be better able to answer that.

Greg,

Thanks for the note. I am hoping sooner rather than later, but I understand that the whole development cycle is rather long, and it could easily push into mid to late 2010. I am hoping that once the rule book is officially released, things will start to move along.

BTW, do you have the entire thing basically written or just part 1?

Cheers!

BTW...the next time you talk Nick, please tell him to get cracking! Fans are waiting for RC too! ;)

I think both will be great products, and I will buy both.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Mr Baron wrote:

Greg,

Thanks for the note. I am hoping sooner rather than later, but I understand that the whole development cycle is rather long, and it could easily push into mid to late 2010. I am hoping that once the rule book is officially released, things will start to move along.

BTW, do you have the entire thing basically written or just part 1?

Cheers!

BTW...the next time you talk Nick, please tell him to get cracking! Fans are waiting for RC too! ;)

I think both will be great products, and I will buy both.

My pleasure, Mr. Baron. I'm as excited to see this thing come out as anyone, so anything I can do to keep the information flowing and the interest up is something I'm interested in.

I have written the entire trilogy (approx. 450k words) in OGL 3.5 rules. To publish it will have to be converted to PF RPG and probably a little clean up and fleshing out here and there (I'm guesstimating 500k words when all is said and done). I figure it'll take 2 or 3 months per adventure to get all that done, so figure once I have the greenlight the final turnover is 2-3 months away and then another 6 or whatever for it to go through editing, printing, etc. Now the 2-3 month conversion lag will really only be felt on the first one (which is also the shortest and will require the least amount of said work) because after that I'll being doing the conversion and clean-up while the editing and printing are going on for the previous one(s), so the next one ought to be ready by the time their ready to move on and start looking at it. So I'd expect the initial wait period from greenlight to publication to be the longest even though it will require the least overall effort...if that makes sense. In short, it's a good thing from the consumers' perspective because the actual wait time for the first and between the 2nd and 3rd is minimized as much as possible. Probably way more info than you wanted, but there it is.

I will continue to harrass Nick as always. Never fear. :-)

[DitheringFool]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

I have written the entire trilogy (approx. 450k words) in OGL 3.5 rules. To publish it will have to be converted to PF RPG and probably a little clean up and fleshing out here and there (I'm guesstimating 500k words when all is said and done).

My biggest fear (after not getting to ever see it) is that it will be watered down to fit publishing models. This is not a Gamemastery Module adventure. 32 or 64 pages isn't going to cut it. I hope this gets the treatment it deserves...and soon! That's one thing I loved about Necro - they would publish a 214 page adventure if that is what it took (talking about Barakus, here).

[Greg A. Vaughan]

DitheringFool wrote:

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

I have written the entire trilogy (approx. 450k words) in OGL 3.5 rules. To publish it will have to be converted to PF RPG and probably a little clean up and fleshing out here and there (I'm guesstimating 500k words when all is said and done).

My biggest fear (after not getting to ever see it) is that it will be watered down to fit publishing models. This is not a Gamemastery Module adventure. 32 or 64 pages isn't going to cut it. I hope this gets the treatment it deserves...and soon! That's one thing I loved about Necro - they would publish a 214 page adventure if that is what it took (talking about Barakus, here).

We had some discussions about that late last year (though nothing was finalized, of course), but from them I think we came the consensus that we would need to do all of it and not water it down to make it fit. We did look some options of breaking them up into more parts to fit over say a whole AP, which may be doable but brings its own problems because these are more sandbox-style adventures than strictly plot-driven adventure paths. Picture The Keep on the Borderlands or something and then running multiple plot threads throughout and multiply by a large number of pages and you kind of get the idea. Could it broken out into more parts? Probably so. How exactly to do that? I don't know for sure and we never got to that point in the discussion where any decisions were made. Anyway, I say all that to say, though it could possibly change forms, fortunately I don't believe it would get watered down like you describe.

[DaveMage]

I much prefer that this product be sandbox rather than AP.

Paizo does APs well enough - I don't really need any more than what they provide. But one can never have too many sandboxes to play in. :)