Bruthazmus with 18 Strength


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Please review this potential spoiler and ascertain if I have correctly determined the attack and damage rolls.

Thanks all you mathematicians!

Spoiler:

With Bruthazmus having 18 Strength, is his attack against elves with his bow the following using those elf-bane arrows?

Base Attack Bonus: 3 +3 (DEX) + 3 (+1 arrow, bane gives it additional +2) = 9

Elf-Bane Arrows:
+9 range (110 feet): Masterwork Composite Longbow: +4 STR Bonus (1d8+7+2d6 versus elves/x3)

Elf-Bane Arrows with Point Blank Shot:
+10 range (30 feet): Masterwork Composite Longbow: +4 STR Bonus (1d8+8+2d6 versus elves/x3)


Jester King wrote:

Please review this potential spoiler and ascertain if I have correctly determined the attack and damage rolls.

Thanks all you mathematicians!

** spoiler omitted **

I believe you have factored in a Weapon Specialization bonus to damage, it seems 2 points high on the bonus after the d8. Bane adds to-hit and the bonus damage dice IIRC.

Been a long time since I've used it though, so I'm not 100% certain.


No Weapon Specialization.

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Jester King wrote:
No Weapon Specialization.

No... I think Turin's right. On the damage, 4 composite damage plus the plus one arrow equals an extra five points of damage (six if you factor in PBS). I think you got two extra damage.


Turin the Mad wrote:

it seems 2 points high on the bonus after the d8. Bane adds to-hit and the bonus damage dice IIRC.

No, according to the DMG the enhancement bonus of the weapon is increased by 2, which would apply to attack and damage. It also does 2d6 extra on top of this.

Jester King, I think your damage is 2 points too low, you didn't add in Bruthazmus' favored enemy: elves.


Spoiler:

Don't you apply damage(+4) with the bane bonus +1 (and bane grants an additional +2 for a total of +3), oh and I forgot his ranger bonus damage of +2: so it would be

damage (1d8+9+2d6 versus elves) and (1d8+10+2d6 versus elves) with point blank shot?

Thanks.


Jester King wrote:

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Thanks.

That looks correct to me. If any elf PCs take an arrow in the chest from Bruthazmus they are going to be in for a world of hurt.


Thanks Paul. The math looks correct to me too. I have two players that are playing elves going into Burnt Offering, a wizard and a rogue and they may forever remember this brute!

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Oh, my bad. I forgot you were asking about JUST elves. As I was.


Noice, I'd forgotten about that particular property of Bane. And I had no idea the bad guy had ranger with favored enemy (elves), so he's going to royally open up the can of whoop a$$ on the pointy-eared party members.

I do seem to recall a particularly malevolent goblin in the Red Hand of Doom so outfitted ... he ran out of elf-bane arrows when I ran him, thorougly perforating both of the elves in the party... good times, good times.

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The rationale for Bruthazmus only having a 17 Strength offered over in the Clarifications thread is pretty compelling, but that +4 bow doesn't make much sense that way. IMC, I think I am going to give him a pair of brute gauntlets (Magic Item Compendium, pg 83) and rule that he can add the morale bonus to his Strength bonus for the purposes of the composite bow only - in other words, he hits the +4 bonus of the bow's minimum and adds +4 to the damage, but only for a maximum of three rounds per day. Otherwise he takes the -2 and only deals 1d8+3...


Shisumo wrote:
The rationale for Bruthazmus only having a 17 Strength offered over in the Clarifications thread is pretty compelling, but that +4 bow doesn't make much sense that way. IMC, I think I am going to give him a pair of brute gauntlets (Magic Item Compendium, pg 83) and rule that he can add the morale bonus to his Strength bonus for the purposes of the composite bow only - in other words, he hits the +4 bonus of the bow's minimum and adds +4 to the damage, but only for a maximum of three rounds per day. Otherwise he takes the -2 and only deals 1d8+3...

Or alternatively you could just give him a +3 STR bow.

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pres man wrote:
Shisumo wrote:
The rationale for Bruthazmus only having a 17 Strength offered over in the Clarifications thread is pretty compelling, but that +4 bow doesn't make much sense that way. IMC, I think I am going to give him a pair of brute gauntlets (Magic Item Compendium, pg 83) and rule that he can add the morale bonus to his Strength bonus for the purposes of the composite bow only - in other words, he hits the +4 bonus of the bow's minimum and adds +4 to the damage, but only for a maximum of three rounds per day. Otherwise he takes the -2 and only deals 1d8+3...
Or alternatively you could just give him a +3 STR bow.

Well, sure, but where's the fun in that?

Seriously, though, I think I'd rather have a bit more reward for the players and a bit more variation in the fight; he's actually more dangerous with the +3 STR bow, and since two of my three players are elves, I'm thinking I might cut them a little slack.


That guy is one BAD ewok, in any event!

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