I’ve been wondering if Paizo’s new products would be making use of the ToH as a source. The book’s OGC-ness, and Paizo’s partnership with NG makes it seem like almost a no-brainer.
Since Paizo won’t have access to the WotC books and can probably no longer do conversions of old critters, that avenue is cut off… unless they make use of something like the ToH. And anyone who’s been following Dragon and Dungeon for the last few years would know these guys do have a fondness for the classics. :)
And if they do use the book, I have to wonder if that means using *everything* from the ToH. You know, Orcus, the Oinodaemon, Jubilex, Lucifer, the Slaad Lord of Entropy, Dagon, Moloch, Charon, etc…
While these aren’t the official WotC versions of these entities, that’s both good and bad. The bad is that they can’t make use of any D&D source outside of the ToH regarding these beings. The good is that they’re not *constrained* by that as a limitation – they can develop these beings as far as they like, in whatever direction they feel, if they do make use of them.
Color me intrigued! Can’t wait to see what arises from all of this…
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Hello Boz,
Paizo will make use of the ToH and other OGL monster books, but they will reserve to themselves the possibility to modify these monsters according to their likes/ the adventure needs.
I don't know in which thread this was written: I think it was James.
Greetings,
Günther
P.S.
I am VERY intrigued by the possibilities, too. Let's add ToH II and III... ;-)
Let's add ToH II and III... ;-)
now i don't recall... are those OGC as well? if so, hey... :)
I worked on Monster Geographica from XRP, and those were made up entirely of OGC monsters. ToH II was among them, so i'd say that answers part of my question. ;) not sure about part III though.
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Hello Boz,
I am not sure about that. I had a look into the OGL-part of ToH II and III , but I am not a licensing expert. If I get things correctly, most of the books is freely usable, except art, and some of the monster names (?!).
Anyway, ToH monsters feel pretty close to the original D&D ones, and after the cooperation deal between Necromancer Games and Paizo, even using non OGL monsters shouldn't be much of a problem, should it?
If using OGL monsters or creating monsters of their own doesn't mean that an inflation of new monsters will hit us, I don't worry either way... ;-)
Greetings,
Günther
Why? You can never have too many monsters available. Look at the plethora of creatures on this planet that can(and will) eat you. Hell my friend pointed out that your cat does not like you, if it was 3 feet taller at the shoulder it would stalk you, kill you, and eat you.
I am not sure about that. I had a look into the OGL-part of ToH II and III , but I am not a licensing expert. If I get things correctly, most of the books is freely usable, except art, and some of the monster names (?!).
Anyway, ToH monsters feel pretty close to the original D&D ones, and after the cooperation deal between Necromancer Games and Paizo, even using non OGL monsters shouldn't be much of a problem, should it?
If using OGL monsters or creating monsters of their own doesn't mean that an inflation of new monsters will hit us, I don't worry either way... ;-)
definitely. :D i'd be very surprised if the ToH doesn't see a ton of use in the pathfinder series. and i'm not just saying that because i worked on a few dozen of them either. ;)
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definitely. :D i'd be very surprised if the ToH doesn't see a ton of use in the pathfinder series. and i'm not just saying that because i worked on a few dozen of them either. ;)
Oh, were you?
Sometimes I don't see through all the nick names in here... ;-)I really like ToH I - III. Where to find classics like the Ju-Ju Zombie?
What I like most is that many of the creatures in them feature very cleverly designed stats: the optimal monster should equally consist of interesting crunch, clever innovative stats, which keep players on edge, and an intriguing tie in into your favourite campaign world.
The latter will hopefully feature especially prominently in Pathfinder. I am very curious about the bestiary section, but I would really like to see some classics or ToH mainstays to be revisited and being connected to the adventure paths.
Greetings,
Günther
Tome of Horrors = Awesome. I fully support this idea. :)
Large chunks of the Creature Collection (Revised) are nice, too.
-The Gneech
Oh, were you?
Sometimes I don't see through all the nick names in here... ;-)I really like ToH I - III. Where to find classics like the Ju-Ju Zombie?
What I like most is that many of the creatures in them feature very cleverly designed stats: the optimal monster should equally consist of interesting crunch, clever innovative stats, which keep players on edge, and an intriguing tie in into your favourite campaign world.The latter will hopefully feature especially prominently in Pathfinder. I am very curious about the bestiary section, but I would really like to see some classics or ToH mainstays to be revisited and being connected to the adventure paths.
my real name is pronounced similarly to my screen name. ;)
and i absolutely agree with you!
For today only, Tome of Horrors is a free download.
Thanks for the Link, I have been trying to find a copy of this since I got hooked on the RotRL AP. You just saved me some $$$.
Glad to help. :)