Okay, even if the U.N. wants us dead, there is one major flaw in their plan: it would be carried out by the United Nations.
Well, the same argument has been used against any conspiracies being led by any government.
Maybe UNICEF is already building an army of killer androids...
Go online to the UN web page. In their own search engine, type in Agenda 21. Summation: It's the UN's publicly stated plan to commit massive genocide. They're openly stating that they think there's already too many people on the planet and want to kill off between 80% to 90% of us!!
Been reading it and I haven't found the genocide section yet. Very disappointing. There's a lot of talk about sustainable development, free trade, and environmental protection. All of these, granted, would be easier with fewer people. The way to do that seems to be through gradual reduction--i.e., negative net population growth through family planning, etc. I don't see anything about killing people that are already alive, though.
The CIA killed John Lennon! :P :D
Been reading it and I haven't found the genocide section yet. Very disappointing. There's a lot of talk about sustainable development, free trade, and environmental protection. All of these, granted, would be easier with fewer people. The way to do that seems to be through gradual reduction--i.e., negative net population growth through family planning, etc. I don't see anything about killing people that are already alive, though.
I read Agenda 21 I have to agree. This is soft political language before conspiracy theorists connect dots and add their gallon of hyperbole to make something genocidal out of Agenda 21.
I've been presented with a few conspiracy theories I believe have at least one foot somewhere in or near the truth. But this well came up dry for me.
IMO, it isn't the terrible things that the shadow government puppetmasters are doing to us because they're deliberately evil that I think we need to worry about so much as the well meaning controls they exert based on the best information they believe they have, much of this information being supplied by the corporations who have their ear--damned by design to be profitably self serving, which actually is disgustingly evil.
Bunch of squirrels fighting over a nut.
I'd like to add an edit to my above post.
"the sometimes well meaning..."
Oops, my bad. Sorry. Didn't have all my reference materials at hand when the message was written and got something crossed. The Agenda 21 thing is about eradicating private property ownership and consolidating all property into a supernational "public/private partnership". This was referred to by Eisenhower as the "Military/Indistrial Complex" and by Moussilini as "Mercantilism". All three are better known as Fascism.
Here are some more links that will direct you better towards the global genocide issue.
Pianka-1
UN Sex Slaves
Brave New World
Pianka-2
Let me know of you want more.
Here are some more links that will direct you better towards the global genocide issue.
Lemme get this straight... you're providing conspiracy-theory websites as proof of conspiracy theories? There has to be a flaw in that logic somewhere, but it escapes me at the moment.
No, not as proof, just as reference. The written pieces frequently have other links that will give other references, like NY Times news pieces, government publications, etc. Just check them out and keep reading until all references are exhausted.
No, not as proof, just as reference. The written pieces frequently have other links that will give other references, like NY Times news pieces, government publications, etc. Just check them out and keep reading until all references are exhausted.
Gotcha. Thanks.
Goddamn shape changing green ninnies!
The conspiracy to make people percieve rpg gamers as weird; geeky, unsocial, missfits who live with their parents. This is so widespread and pervasive that it has to be a conspiracy, but by whom and for what purpose escapes me; hehe I would rather game than dig into it.
hmm the fact that inmates are getting chipped is stinking of end of the world conspiracy to me; I am not getting chipped and am wondering how long until it is required for everybody; they always try new things like social controls and drugs out on inmates; then the military; then some test city; keep your eyes open. --- of course, if i suddenly stop posting you will know what happened :)
Isn't life cooler knowing that we have been there?
What's cooler...hmm. How about that the reason we faked the moon landing was that because it was a lush and verdant planet full of awesome trees and rivers and such like they thought it was in the 1800s. We knew that the only way to lay claim to it was to fake the landing and show it as a barren rocky waste with no air and big pudgy spacesuits required to even stay alive there. Meanwhile we began giving special access to people like Elvis to relocate there to our secret American colony.
Since then NASA has been providing consistant counterintelligence, proclaiming all of the other planets in our system as poisonous or lethal in one way or another whilst the power elite have ranches and summer homes there amidst alien splendor.
At least that's the premise for my Iron Lords of Jupiter game...
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The conspiracy to make people percieve rpg gamers as weird; geeky, unsocial, missfits who live with their parents. This is so widespread and pervasive that it has to be a conspiracy, but by whom and for what purpose escapes me.
M.A.D.D. and/or Jack Chick HAS to be behind it. There's no other explanation. Always remember, it doesn't have to be plausible to be true. (heh heh heh...)
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And by the way, I heard that one of the reasons the hardcore band Refused broke up in the late 90's was that they were FREAKIN' ARRESTED for being 'foreign terrorist subversives' that 'espoused anarchy, violence, and revolution.' Well DUH, the're a FREAKIN' PUNK BAND! What else are they ging to sing about?
Why is the U.S. government spending their time chasing down punk rockers, while in the meantime, they're letting al Quaeda set up cells in the U.S. ?
I blame Cylons.
For those still unsure, here's a link that will get you to thinking.
270 Unanswered Questons about 9/11
When you're done reading, ask yourself, "Isn't the official story of how 9/11 happened a big conspiracy theory itself?"
If you can't get the link to work, go to Killtown.911review.org and link to it that way.
Read, think and learn.
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hmm Skulls, Illuminatii, Masons anyone?
well, it is probably to new and to fresh in peeps mind, but when the twin towers got airplaned, I prayed it wasn't one of our homegrown crazy groups; but, is there any evidence that this VA shooting could be part of a conspiracy; I certainly could see some of these crazed antigun mobs putting some Harvey Oswald up to this to get an agenda passed.
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well, it is probably to new and to fresh in peeps mind, but when the twin towers got airplaned, I prayed it wasn't one of our homegrown crazy groups; but, is there any evidence that this VA shooting could be part of a conspiracy; I certainly could see some of these crazed antigun mobs putting some Harvey Oswald up to this to get an agenda passed.
Coulda been one o' them Goa'ulds..
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As one of the many many government workers that disposed of the evidence after 9/11, I can assure you, it was in fact a government conspiracy. I will most certainly be murdered as a result of this post, but I feel like the truth deserves to come out. I don't know about the other 10,000 government employees that participated in the cover up and kept secret, or all the legislators and administrators who put aside their partisan differences to cooperate in hiding the truth, but I for one, can no longer stay silent.
I've just read this post, but I kind of knew he was dead. The most recent posts have been far too emollient.
the emollient conspiracy? havent heard of it; emollient is having the power of softening or relaxing living tissues as in a medical balm to sooth usually in regards to skin; I just dont understand the word choice.
well, I have been boning up on some conspiracies from some X files supplementsm but, has anyone got a good conspiracy theory about this Paizo Dungeon Dragon and WOTC event? the sillier and more fantastic the better.
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The Savage Tide is about to happen IN THE REAL WORLD, and agents of Demogorgon pressured those spineless bastards at WotC to pull Paizo's license so we (the gamers) wouldn't know how to stop the Demon Prince of Unnatural Wrath. However, Paizo foiled the plot to take over the world by deciding to continue the Savage Tide adventure path, in order for the people of the Prime to be able to thwart the demon prince's plans!
Or,
A group of rogue NID agents infiltrated the WotC superstructure, planning to revoke Paizo's right to publish Dungeon and Dragon because Paizo was planning on revealing their illicit actions in a special SpyCraft: D20 Stargate issue.
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I can't think of any of them I believe, so I can't see where I need to know the truth to any of them.
I don't think Roswell was an alien; I think aliens could give a crap about what we do.
I think Oswald did what he did without any help.
I believe without a doubt that we went to the moon; if not the U.S.S.R. had the wherewithal and the motive to debunk us...
I think most conspiracy theories are just designed to sell books and/or t.v. series.
JFK ASSASSINATION: Ozwalds rifle had to have fired a Hollowpoint (which mushrooms and blows a very big hole through JFK's head). but they dont sell hollow point for such a small rifle.
Yet witnesses on the grassy knowl report a police marksman firing a rifle because they reported a cloud of smoke from his rifle. This suggests blackpowder - not a highpowered rifle. However under warm moist conditions common to the Dallas summer climate, a highpowered rifle which discharges a smokeless gas haze can be seen as a puff of smoke.Therefore there was a second shooter on the grassy knowl and he killed JFK. Who was the cop? Joe Dimaggio-enraged husband for whom being an American died with his wife Marylin Munro at the hands of the Kennedys? Perhaps Marylins previous-who had mob connections?
9-11: Despite the Firemen blocking six lanes of inbound traffic to the World Trade centre prior to the crash of the first plane, the only conspiracy there was George Bush throwing money at the vermin just in time to finance their attack (qualifying the Bush government for the new crime of providing material support to terrorism).
ROSWELL: Try deformed people as a result of Experiments using radiation on children-something a bunch of NAZI nuclear scientists have no problem with. More a crime of the US Government of the day than anything else.
LUNAR LANDING: I'm Surprised that Buzz didnt push Armstrong out of the way and go the ladder first.
Grim, you sound like my hubby. You keep this up and my husband, who has a neck as red as yours I'm sure, will have me installed in a log cabin living off the land in no time, his biggest dream. Alas, I think he was born 100 years too late. ;)
As for me? I too would love to get underneath the Vatican, think of all the wonders they have to have there.
Give it up -- the truth isn't out there.
Blackwater guys are OK. They have a specialized skillset. I might look into them in the future.
Most conspiracy theories are pretty much modern folklore. I don't put much stock into them. Besides the truth is either much more disapointing or bizarre than you might realize.
They are living proof that Shadowrun will become a reality.
That and the monofilament whips they're working on. I just hope I don't come out of this a troll...
Blackwater guys are OK. They have a specialized skillset. I might look into them in the future.
Yeah, but this doesn't make the impeniding cyberpunk future we are spiralling towards any less immenant. Wage mages would have a specialized skillset too.
I conspire. People conspire. The richest and most powerful conspire. Conspiracies are as real as clouds. They're hard to see well but they pass over us every day. I'm sure if we all knew the truth about Government's every misstep and ill conceived plan we'd puke and drop. That said, conspiracy theories are, more often than not, merely a convention whereby extremely convincing methods are used to poke holes in a commonly held understanding of something and then fill those holes with suggestions that though completely unprovable make a kind of sense.
So a conspiracy theory might say that the government clearly lied about something... and that much is probably true. But then they take it a step further and suggest that they know someone who knows someone who knows the actual truth. And so begins the connecting of a bunch of self-invented dots. I knew someone who didn't believe that anyone on the planes died on 9/11. Had to tell them, "Sorry, I knew someone in the tower and I knew someone on the plane."
Have to paraphrase South Park here: "So you're saying that the president pulled off the most brilliant scam the world has ever known, ever... ever."
However, big business does what it has to do to protect itself. Whether it's the FDA's quackbusters or conservative think tanks that spend millions to tell people that global warming doesn't exist. It's natural to wonder why anyone would want to spend that much money to make you think that the sky isn't falling when a chunk of it just squashed your dog. Clearly it's about ruthless self interest, and ruthless self interest is usually something you're going to lie to others about.
When I was young I ate these theories up. Now, it's about what you can prove. Quite often the problem isn't so much that the public is actually having the truth obfuscated by the big baddies (though that certainly happens on a daily basis). It's that people don't really care to hear the ugly details when they're just out there, plain for all to see. Ugliness isn't glamorous enough to catch or hold the eye. It's got to be secret-ugly.
This should clear it up:
con·spir·a·cy –noun, plural -cies.
1. the act of conspiring.
2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4. Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
con·spire [kuhn-spahyuhr] Pronunciation Key - Pronunciation verb, -spired, -spir·ing. –verb (used without object)
1. to agree together, esp. secretly, to do something wrong, evil, or illegal: They conspired to kill the king.
2. to act or work together toward the same result or goal.
–verb (used with object)
3. to plot (something wrong, evil, or illegal).
4. to taunt Daigle with chocolate chip cookies.
Right back atcha. ;)
Every time someone tells me their conspiracy theory, I can't help thinking: If you're right, they're going to take us away any minute now...
Seriously, why do people think that they can know something that's a big, deep secret of the government and not dissapear forever.
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Seriously, why do people think that they can know something that's a big, deep secret of the government and not dissapear forever.
Because the government knows that if said people tell anyone else, they'll be discredited as crazy. However, if the government did make said people disappear forever, said people's theories would be vindicated.
I don't think I believe in the moon landing.You can see debris from the Lander, and the flag, with a telescope...I'm serious.
hehe sounds like you need to clean your telescope...
Grim, you sound like my hubby. You keep this up and my husband, who has a neck as red as yours I'm sure, will have me installed in a log cabin living off the land in no time, his biggest dream. Alas, I think he was born 100 years too late. ;)
As for me? I too would love to get underneath the Vatican, think of all the wonders they have to have there.
lol; you gotta sister Lady Lena? I could hitch up wit er n am pretty handy at making log cabins and other defensive structures as well as growing my own food and gming a mean game :)
hehe I am with Dirk on that last one; maybe i should line my cowboy hat with tinfoil hehe. The number of government cameras going up in our town is not helping quell the public fear of the government. I can now log in to the internet and look through cameras all over town; not through as many as are out there, but some like that are on the highway; you would think they would put one somewhere useful like in the aquarium.
Anyone have any idea how many spy satelites are out there looking back at us? Anyone? it is a big number. I cannot imagine anything being so interesting that people do that we need that many spy satelites; sometimes I think they just put them up there to stay in practice. Pretty soon we wont even be able to do another moonshot to prove once and for all that we can do it because we would end up bumping into someones ahem, "weather" or "communications" satelite.
so; no new conspiracies about the poison dog food or all those thousands of chickens poisoned by the same thing that were sold to the public and were not recalled until they had already been consumed. Somebody has to be doing this poisoning don't they?
Speaking to no one here, I assure you... the easily amused megalomaniacs who feed false conspiracy theories are the ones who marginalize those who stumble upon a true conspiracy.
It's a very fine line between what the public considers an open-minded person and a kook. Just remember when stating your case that it's not about what you can surmise -- seeing THEM try to pass off story with holes in it, then filling these holes with logical guesses masquerading as fact (thereby connecting the dots and finishing a fine movie script) -- It's about what you can prove. When you can cite credible sources that others can then go to and research, it's far easier to spread the good word about something bad.
OOH OOH; I have a hot new conspiracy hot of the presses at MSN and NBC news; Interceptor VS Dragon Skin Body armor for our troops; who is getting paid; who is the whistleblowers; who is in the cover up; who is wearing the armor even though it is banned; hot new stuff that we have no idea what is going on; are our soldiers offered the best protection; and if not; why not; why did the army ban the armor even before the test date saying it failed; hehe; this is a big deal to me as I still have friends in this war and am an vet myself. Follow the money. Still; msn was dumb and called Dragon Skin to be like chainmail when any rpger knows it is more like scale mail; sheesh; lessens their credability, but only that they dont know anything about armor which is why they hired their own specialists and started their own tests; granted that military proving tests are much more extensive; guess we will have to wait and see how this turns out; there is definately evidence here worth watching.
Now that sounds like a legitimate conspiracy. And yes, always follow the money.