Magic Jar vs True Resurrection


Shackled City Adventure Path


Hi there again...
My party has just finished "Strike on Shatterhorn" and one of the characters has been magic jarred and plane shifted to Carceri. Embril has spoken with Wee Jas and offered the soul of the character with the Smoking eye template as a gift in order to obtain Adimarchus' location...blabla...
Ok, As I read, players can use True Resurrection to bring the soul and the body to life. They do not need anything else.
But, Wee Jas, come'on. Is He/She allowing to loose a soul he/she has? Isn't there any chance to Wee Jas to keep the player's soul prisoner?
As I read, Wee Jas, angrily mooded, would send a minion to revenge this theft. BUt... could Wee Jas turn the soul of the character into an undead in order to prevent true resurrection?
That would pop up a lot of options to play more adventures.
Nanmaniac


I don't think "true resurrection" would work, as the character isn't dead. I don't have the PH right now, so I can't look up the spell, but it would seem to me that being dead is a prerequisite to resurrection.

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Nanmaniac wrote:

Hi there again...

My party has just finished "Strike on Shatterhorn" and one of the characters has been magic jarred and plane shifted to Carceri. Embril has spoken with Wee Jas and offered the soul of the character with the Smoking eye template as a gift in order to obtain Adimarchus' location...blabla...
Ok, As I read, players can use True Resurrection to bring the soul and the body to life. They do not need anything else.
But, Wee Jas, come'on. Is He/She allowing to loose a soul he/she has? Isn't there any chance to Wee Jas to keep the player's soul prisoner?
As I read, Wee Jas, angrily mooded, would send a minion to revenge this theft. BUt... could Wee Jas turn the soul of the character into an undead in order to prevent true resurrection?
That would pop up a lot of options to play more adventures.
Nanmaniac

Please clarify this a bit. Is the body of the player still with the party, but the receptacle [the magic jar] with the character's soul in it is in Carceri? If this is the case, you need to specify if additional spells were cast to trap the PC's soul there. Otherwise, there's no reason the soul (the PC should be dead) cannot travel unhindered to the corresponding heaven or hell it would ordinarily go to upon dying. Which means no dealing with Wee Jas and end of this discussion. If, on the other hand, Wee Jas has claimed the PC's soul, well that PC is pretty much screwed and needs to roll up a new character, IMO.

Here's the spell description of magic jar for anyone that cares to look and give an opinion. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicJar.htm


What F2K said. True Resurrection works only on a dead body. A magic jar'ed person is not dead.


DMFTodd wrote:
What F2K said. True Resurrection works only on a dead body. A magic jar'ed person is not dead.

Ok the situation is that Embril sent body and soul to Wee Jas. Actually he's not dead.

I agree, they cannot true ress him.
Sorry about the st question and thanks anyway


You will need a host body and perhaps something like a Wish to help with that situation.

Or of course recovering the gem itself and then a host body.

If the characters real body is no longer available, can it regenerated from any remains perhaps? If not and they go cadaver searching....well.....lets hope they are not good...

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