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Ok Ok i could lie to your faces like the rest of the world and pretend to love america - but i dont love it.
And i think you'll be hard pressed to find any body outside your corrupted(sp) empire that does=)
Maybe its because i play xbox live or that i use to play World of Warcraft(which may i add you guys ruined)that i have such strong felling towards america.
Every single person that has shot me in the back, b@@#& and moaned because i dont sound american and must be "Pom" etc has been american!! What is it?? You guys just like pissing people off!!??
Dont get me wrong, i love the movies you guys make!!
Bad Boys 2!! Blade 2, oh man i could go on!!!
But lets not get past the fact that 98% of americans are dicks. Plain an simple.
Are you the token representative for your country? If so, I worry about the state your country may be in.
This is such a lame post I don't even know where to begin...
The great movies you quoted are Bad Boys 2 and Blade 2? I really hope that you are kidding. If this is the best that you have seen that America has produced, you must have a sad life. If this is sarcasm, has your country produced any poorly made movies in the past few years?
...the fact that 98% of Americans... What a stupid comment. Yes, 98% of Americans play XBox Live. 98% of Americans play World of Warcraft. 98% of Americans role-play. 100% of the 98% of Americans are power-gamers and love it. (In case you couldn't tell, this is all sarcasm.) Where I work, there are around 300 employees. I think that it would be VERY generous to say that even 20 of them play XBox Live, do Role-Playing or even play World of Warcraft. But apparently all 300 of them have ruined World of Warcraft for everyone.
Actually, I have seen 294 (98%) of our employees just waiting around looking for people from {Fill in Country Here} just to piss them off. It's kind of a hobby here. (Sarcasm again.)
I believe that the only "fact" that can be gleaned from this is what kind of person you are.

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Ok Ok i could lie to your faces like the rest of the world and pretend to love america - but i dont love it.
And i think you'll be hard pressed to find any body outside your corrupted(sp) empire that does=)
Maybe its because i play xbox live or that i use to play World of Warcraft(which may i add you guys ruined)that i have such strong felling towards america.
Every single person that has shot me in the back, b&@@~ and moaned because i dont sound american and must be "Pom" etc has been american!! What is it?? You guys just like pissing people off!!??
Dont get me wrong, i love the movies you guys make!!
Bad Boys 2!! Blade 2, oh man i could go on!!!
But lets not get past the fact that 98% of americans are dicks. Plain an simple.Now who started power gaming??
YOU.
POWER GAMING #1 - "When an American wants to be the best in his/her group so he/she throws roleplaying out the window and just trys to do the most damage."Just stand back for and look at America through everyones eles eyes.
Oh no a city got flooded, harden up band together and get past it!!!
Not turn on each other and rob everyone blind!!!!!!!!
And dont get me started on that grid iron!!! Take the pads off you bloody pussys and play a real mans sport!!!RUGBY.
Ah. Nothing like perspective... I was kinda hoping that you hated America because the USMC shot your dog in 'Nam in 1973 or something like that, but no: it is because you got fragged in WoW once or twice. Of course, WoW was a noted roleplaying haven before those nasty nasty Americans captured it with their ideas of powergaming. Too bad Bad Boys II wasn't quite able to make up for these grievous slings and arrows... Ever tried watching a real movie, like The Godfather, Network or even Blade Runner? Try it - you might like it.
There is no contradiction between being able to do tons of damage and roleplaying - I believe that the technical name for this is "leveling up". Your dichotomy is false - just because you can cast Meteor Swarm or has four attacks per round with your Greater Wpn Spc Greatsword does not mean that you have abandoned roleplaying. Again, if your group do nothing but kick down doors and kill that lone orc sitting on that chest of gold, that is not the system's fault. That is caused by poor players and DMs.
Of course, this isn't a problem for you, as power gaming is a specific American problem. So, how does localised US gaming misconduct actually inconvenience you?
And, finally, for the record, I'm not American, I can't stand the current crop of US politicians and I feel that the US has done many wrong things throughout history. That's no excuse for sloppy arguing, though.

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I hate people who judge a whole culture based on the actions of a few idiots. Judging 300 million by the way that some of them play computer games and RPGs? Wow....as a counterpoint, I present my snap judgment categorization of about a billion people:
I love Americans because of Samuel Adams.
I love Germans because of Franziskaner Hefe Weizen.
I love Brits because of Old Peculier (and Bass Ale)
I love Scots because of Glenlivet.
I love the Irish because of Guiness Stout.
I love Aussies because of Foster's Bitter.
I love Canadians because of Labatt's Blue.
I love Belgians because of Trappist Ale.
I love the Dutch because of Heineken.
I love the Danish because of Carlsberg.
I love the Italians because of Peroni.
I love the Japanese because of Asahi Black.
I love Mexicans because of Bohemia. (with lime, Corona is for pad-wearing wimps from America ;)*Burp*
Most of this stuff is pretty good. Add in an Indian beer (I'm partial to Kingfisher), and you add another billion!
But where are the Norwegian brews? Buhuuu!

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And, finally, for the record, I'm not American, I can't stand the current crop of US politicians and I feel that the US has done many wrong things throughout history.
This has come up (in one form or another) a few times here recently.
I don't know what a good "crop of US politicians" would look like. I usually feel like no matter who we put in office, there will be problems found. Often times it ends up being the "lesser of two evils". Perhaps there is an over-abundance of good politicians found in other countries. I would be surprised.
I just hope that you don't judge Americans based on what the politicians do or don't do.

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Vattnisse wrote:And, finally, for the record, I'm not American, I can't stand the current crop of US politicians and I feel that the US has done many wrong things throughout history.This has come up (in one form or another) a few times here recently.
I don't know what a good "crop of US politicians" would look like. I usually feel like no matter who we put in office, there will be problems found. Often times it ends up being the "lesser of two evils". Perhaps there is an over-abundance of good politicians found in other countries. I would be surprised.
I just hope that you don't judge Americans based on what the politicians do or don't do.
Aw, of course not! I just added it in there to avoid being lumped into one of those "you Americans" categorisations. I chose to live and study here, so I must obviously like some of it... :)
More specifically, when I look at Congress now, I see little but blind partisanship, venality and personal ambition. Of course, this is often true in other countries as well, but I sincerely feel that the current deniziens of Washington, DC are less capable than those of the 60ies or even the 80ies. It might be due to a lack of an overarching project, such as FDR's New Deal or LBJ's Great Society and political reforms of the 60ies. Of course, I might just be romanticising the not-so-distant past...

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Kingfisher? Never tried it--going to have to do some looking now!! Norwegian beer--not sure I've had Norwegian beer--advice would be appreciated as well...I love to travel the globe vicariously via fermentation....
Cobra is another good Indian beer - you should find either in any half-decent Indian resurant. They are both mellow lagers that go well with spicy food.
Norwegian beers are very much like Danish and German ones - if you like Carlsberg, you'll probably like most Norwegian lagers as well. My hometown beer is Ringnes, and Bergen brewers Hansa also makes really good draft beers. As you are into bitters and stouts, you might want to check out the Christmas special editions, as they are darker and heavier than the standard beers - also, they might actually be easier to get, as they are more seasonal and "ethnic". I have no idea of where to look, though... somewhere in Minneapolis or Seattle would probably be a good place to start?

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This has come up here recently.
I don't know what A good US politician would look like. I feel like no matter who we put in office, there will be evil. Perhaps there is good found in other countries. I would be surprised.
I judge Americans based on what the politicians do.
I admit that the above quote is an utter misreprestentation of the author's original intent. It was meant to bring attention to the fact that I think he quoted Vatnisse out of context.

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Perhaps there is an over-abundance of good politicians found in other countries. I would be surprised.
Actually, Vattnisse is probably rather spoiled by Norwegian politics, which is a rather civilised thing. A few years ago, the Prime Minister there had a bit of a nervous breakdown. Most other places, he would have been hounded out of office as being unfit. There, the Opposition gave him a few weeks off to recover himself. Rather nice, I think. Most Scandinavians I have met have been quite civilised like that.
That said (and WoW has been raised as a subject) I do find the Nordics on there a bit of a pain. I was falsly accused of ninja looting by one bunch, got ninja looted by another, and I suspect the spam on the LFG channel comes from there (the English is far too impeccable to actually be English people). I have probably been unlucky, and the negative instances probably stick in my mind more than the (probably plenty of) positive instances of Scandinavian WoW'ing. But it does seem odd. Hopefully I'm alone in this.

Utak |

Well said. There's little that is more frustrating than ranting in a designated rant thread and then having people argue with your rant.
What I find frustrating and what I hate is when MB posters believe that message board etiquette is more important than patriotism. Especially when one generlizes a whole country & culture.
Utak

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It's all good, and maybe I'm a bit snotty. I just didn't want Vatnisse to get heaped in there with Rambo; he was kinda anti-Rambo over there.
And although Rambo's diatribe did somewhat incense me, I really don't think he has utterly mastered the English language to a degree that there is no room for misunderstanding. I've tried to speak other languages before, and it is really easy to get a lot of people mad at you really quick because of a simple turn of a phrase you didn't mean to say. So I say give him the benefit of the doubt.

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It's all good, and maybe I'm a bit snotty. I just didn't want Vatnisse to get heaped in there with Rambo; he was kinda anti-Rambo over there.
And although Rambo's diatribe did somewhat incense me, I really don't think he has utterly mastered the English language to a degree that there is no room for misunderstanding. I've tried to speak other languages before, and it is really easy to get a lot of people mad at you really quick because of a simple turn of a phrase you didn't mean to say. So I say give him the benefit of the doubt.
He said 98% of Americans are dicks. Seems like a pretty clear statement of intent.
I don't think he mastered the 2X4 either but damned if I'll let him hit me twice with it while wondering about his intent.FH (The eye-opener)

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In the Saga of Leif Ericksson, the vikings came to Vinland (Northeastern seaboard of North America) and met a group of people they identified as Skraelings, whom scholars believe to be native americans. The two got together and started trading.
The vikings gave the Skraelings milk from a cow, which the Skraelings all relished. They took the milk back to their village on friendly terms.
The next day, inexplicably to the vikings, the Skraelings came back in a devastating war party, total 180 degree shift from the previous day's friendly demeanor.
The vikings couldn't know, but modern scholars made a leap of faith in concluding that the native americans were lactose intolerant, and thought the vikings tried to poison them. It was all a big misunderstanding. It usually is.
It's the 21st century, and we have all this sophisticated communications equipment. Let's try communicating first; we can always have a big pee peeing contest later.

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In the Saga of Leif Ericksson, the vikings came to Vinland (Northeastern seaboard of North America) and met a group of people they identified as Skraelings, whom scholars believe to be native americans. The two got together and started trading.
The vikings gave the Skraelings milk from a cow, which the Skraelings all relished. They took the milk back to their village on friendly terms.
The next day, inexplicably to the vikings, the Skraelings came back in a devastating war party, total 180 degree shift from the previous day's friendly demeanor.
The vikings couldn't know, but modern scholars made a leap of faith in concluding that the native americans were lactose intolerant, and thought the vikings tried to poison them. It was all a big misunderstanding. It usually is.
It's the 21st century, and we have all this sophisticated communications equipment. Let's try communicating first; we can always have a big pee peeing contest later.
True (though I would suggest Rambo was being fairly clear - though it maybe he missed his Sarcasm check). I have also thought about my previous Scandinavian WoW comment. The sheer number of them on the European WoW servers probably suggests that actually as a significant proportion of them will be Scandinavian, nice as well as nasty. So it's probably simply a statistical thing.
Re politics - I actually quite like politics. This Rant thread is fairly freeform, so I don't think it is out of place. That said, for those who want it to be more D&D....
Hey - I don't like Greyhawk. C'mon, I'll take you all on!

The Jade |

Hey - I don't like Greyhawk. C'mon, I'll take you all on!
Take us all on where? On a trip to the Land of Wrong!!!!!
Jk.
Lilith, and just now yourself, reminded me of that game world debate.
Can't we multiversers all just get along?
Let's just be done with it... let's have a campaign where Oerth and Eberron have ample reason to battle each other on a demiplane of war. Will mordenkainen show up for the fight? Will the warforged be forced to dance irresistably while singing about needing hearts? The dramatic possibilities are endless.

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Back on the subject of gaming rants (though mine isn't specifically about D&D in some cases):
I hate people who can't roleplay and don't even TRY to portray anything other than themselves. I have a player in my Friday night game who I've been putting up with for 2 years now and every one of her characters has been (personality-wise) the EXACT SAME THING! She played a huge-gun-wielding fighter in the Dragonstar game that ran for a year (I was not the DM in that one) and now she's playing a forensic scientist in my Trinity game. She played an Aei Sedai (however you spell it) in the Wheel of Time game that only lasted a month several years ago (which, again, I did not DM) and she played an elven sorcerer in the D&D game that filled the gap between Dragonstar and Trinity. You know what all these characters had in common?!? 18 CHARISMA (or 5 Appearance in the case of Trinity, which is a White Wolf game)!!! Understandable for the sorcerer. Why does the gun-toting, armor-wearing, grenade-chucking FIGHTER need 18 Charisma? "It makes for an interesting character trait," you say. It certainly would... IF SHE DIDN'T MAKE EVERY CHARACTER SHE EVER PLAYED THE SAME EXACT WAY! Aei Sedai are supposed to be fairly charismatic (I know next to nothing about this setting) so I'll give her that one too, but the forensic scientist? Why is the bookworm science nerd built like Tyra Banks or Cindy Margolis? I made her rationalize this. She had a fairly good answer: "She started a modelling career to pay for her college tuition." The combination of smart and pretty happens from time to time, so I couldn't shoot the concept down. She kept her Charisma score at 1, though, which means that, while she might be pretty, she's an utter bore at parties and has no personality worth noting. If these concepts had been scattered amidst a bunch of other concepts, I would not have had a problem, but this is what she ALWAYS DOES. She made a Star Wars d20 character with 18 Charisma. She was a FORCE ADEPT from some distant backwater planet (think Dagoba)! I think this girl has some serious self-esteem issues because every character she makes MUST BE THE HOTTEST THING IN CREATION. This makes no sense. The girl in question is not unattractive. In fact, I find her rather good-looking, but she's just SO uncreative that it makes me want to kill her. PLUS she constantly argues with the other characters (and other players) and must always have everything HER WAY or she refuses to go along with established plans even when she isn't the party's "leader." (Having 18 Charisma does not make you a leader by itself. Leadership requires roleplaying, not high stats, Miss Insecurity.) I haven't had an opportunity to kill her character for doing something stupid like that yet, but I feel like that moment will be upon us in the near future. The other players in my game complain about her all the time as well. We would have kicked her out of the gaming group ages ago if we had the option. The only problem is that she's married to one of the BEST and MOST IMAGINATIVE players in our group... and we play at their house. I would sooner have her as a thorn in my side and keep her husband than try to make the game interesting and fun with only the two other good roleplayers in our group, the wallflower, and the munchkin.
Yes, the munchkin. I have one in my group. Thankfully, there's ONLY one out of the six players. My group consists of three quality roleplayers, the whiny showgirl, a player who really doesn't do much of anything (but also doesn't cause problems), and a munchkin. Assuming that each roleplayer is +1, the do-nothing is a 0, and the other 2 are -1, my gaming group has a value of +1, which means that its better than nothing and thus keeps me going. The munchkin is actually not so much of a problem. He doesn't do a bad job of roleplaying (though he doesn't do a terribly GOOD job either), and he knows his place in the party, but he constantly wants to steal the spotlight in combat and show off all his flashy powers. If a game goes by with little or no 'action' for him, he complains to me after the game that he didn't feel like there was anything for his character to 'do' in the session. I keep telling him "Why don't you try DOING some roleplay? This is a ROLEPLAYING game, after all." He sticks around because we're all friends and finding another gaming group is... well... next to impossible in our situations. Besides, everyone has a fond appreciation for my DMing style and they always look forward to my next session so I guess I should be thankful for that.
I swear, though, the next time I start a new game, I'm going to ASSIGN class/race combos to people and the showgirl is getting a half-orc barbarian while the munchkin gets a gnome bard. Maybe it'll force them to try something outside the box... or it might make them hate me and then I won't have to DM anymore and can finally PLAY again!

Rambo |

Its funny some dude(cant find his name now!)said people are going to "flame" me and avoid my posts because why...i have a differnt point of view to some people??!!!
Things like this have proven my point about America.
Americans are fine - America as a hole is a pain in my ass!
I read that they are going to turn the ruins on the twin towers into a battleship call the USS New York.
I mean come on!!! Turn it into a place where people could go and pay thier respect or something........NOT A BLOODY KILLING MACHINE!!!
And on that note some americans wanted Peter Jackson to change the name of the 2nd LOTR's movie from Two Towers to something eles because it sounded like Twin Towers.
Oh boo frikken hoo!!
YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Bad Boys 2 rocked!!

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It's all good, and maybe I'm a bit snotty. I just didn't want Vattnisse to get heaped in there with Rambo; he was kinda anti-Rambo over there.
And although Rambo's diatribe did somewhat incense me, I really don't think he has utterly mastered the English language to a degree that there is no room for misunderstanding. I've tried to speak other languages before, and it is really easy to get a lot of people mad at you really quick because of a simple turn of a phrase you didn't mean to say. So I say give him the benefit of the doubt.
Hey, what happened here? Heathansson has me pegged rather well - thanks for watching my back, I appreciate that. My intended point was merely that you do not have to be American to get annoyed by the Rambo rant. Apologies if that was at all unclear.
Now, about that peeing contest...

Lilith |

Its funny some dude(cant find his name now!)said people are going to "flame" me and avoid my posts because why...i have a differnt point of view to some people??!!!
Things like this have proven my point about America.
Americans are fine - America as a whole is a pain in my ass!
Last time I checked, America (pain in the ass) is made of up Americans (fine)...anyway, not disputing your right to rant, however, just pointing out that there are likely people who feel the same way about you & your country. Stupid actions (whether it be powergaming, whiny behavior, or being self-centered) certainly isn't limited to a citizen of any one nation.
Oh, and by the way, not everybody on these boards is American. Just a note.
My rant about politics...
*polite cough*
I love my country. My government, however, I mistrust.
*another polite cough*
I hate it that I am unable to buy the Huge Black Dragon – Alternate Paint – from Paizo because I am not a subscriber. I really really want it.PS: Paizo, I really do want that modified alternate Huge Black Dragon with Sorcerer atop.
You can have mine - I'm not into miniatures, so you're welcome to it. We can work something out where I order it and ship it to you. :D

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Oh boo frikken hoo!!
YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
You're correct. We are not, in fact, the center of the world. However:
According to a 1992 census of Gross National Product, the United States of America ranked #3 in per capita production, beaten only by Bermuda and Liechtenstein who have very small populations and strict industry standards.
Americans invented electricity, telecommunications, the airplane, the automobile, the atomic bomb, and the computer as well as a host of other devices that are used all around the world.
The Gross Domestic Product of America is #1 in the world as of 2005 with a total GDP of $ 12,360,000,000,000. That's 12 TRILLION, 360 BILLION DOLLARS. The world population is somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 billion. In one year, our country alone produces enough capital to give $2,060 to every man, woman and child on the planet.
In 2004, the United States provided $40 billion worth of aid to foreign countries such as Armenia, Israel, and Czechoslovakia. The World Trade Center was built for $1.5 billion in 1966. Adjusted for inflation, that is roughly $8.8 billion dollars today. Since 9/11, foreign aid spending has INCREASED by almost 100%. We're giving a lot more than we're losing.
So, no, we are not the center of the world. However, if we were to suddenly disappear (or utterly cut off foreign contact), numerous countries would fall into ruin, the world economy would be crushed, and untold millions would find themselves starving, homeless, and dying. So, whatever country you live in, the next time you turn on a light to see, take a car to work, or think about how many people are starving in third-world countries, remember that life would be a LOT worse without us.
/rant

The Jade |

Its funny some dude(cant find his name now!)said people are going to "flame" me and avoid my posts because why...i have a differnt point of view to some people??!!!
Things like this have proven my point about America.
Americans are fine - America as a hole is a pain in my ass!I read that they are going to turn the ruins on the twin towers into a battleship call the USS New York.
I mean come on!!! Turn it into a place where people could go and pay thier respect or something........NOT A BLOODY KILLING MACHINE!!!
And on that note some americans wanted Peter Jackson to change the name of the 2nd LOTR's movie from Two Towers to something eles because it sounded like Twin Towers.
Oh boo frikken hoo!!
YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!And yes Bad Boys 2 rocked!!
Bad Boys 2 ended in a mindless 25 minute montage of crashes, bulletwounds, and explosions. If that's rocking...
Note: You weren't being flamed. You are flaming. All the difference in the world. We aren't 'disagreeing' with your cerebrally challenged diatribe because we have a different point of view, silly. We are 'disagreeing' with your cerebrally challenged diatribe because you are insulting us to our faces...
When you wrote that first post I wanted to respond with, "What country are YOU from?! Cuz I HATE THEM NOW!!!" but I wasn't sure you'd intuit my parody of your model.
So our country is insular? Wow. Did not know that.
So you're saying that our major media in the US doesn't always tell us things about our own country that we should know? Really? You are blowing my mind. It must be so much nicer where you come from; where the leaders are all beyond corruption and the common folk are never lied to from above.
If one lives in Germany one can get to bordering countries quite easily. So it makes sense for many people there to become, at least partially, trilingual. If I go from Berlin to London here I only get to Passaic, NJ. Same Crate&Barrel, different town. We're not as sexy here. So learning to speak Portugese of our own free will would mistify us. It wouldn't be practical.
That said, I speak many languages and smatterings of many more.
I love to explore the cultures of the world as do many of us here.
Your overuse of hitting the '911 oversensitivity' button suggests that you think that are Blade, and that you're fighting evil vampires in their roost. I mean to say, there is a righteousness in your words. You're not insulting the mean Xbox kids, chief. You're insulting us. And we're incredibly cool, so you're like the angry dude who just wandered into a party to start a fight.
We are not evil vampires and don't lecture us how we don't roleplay properly. What you know about us wouldn't fill my jock. Then again, could anything?
And as for future posting I'd recommend that you capitalize much more often... it's so expressive. And HEY, don't forget to add MORE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so that I'll know you're certainly someone worth listening to.

Lilith |

D'oh! This should be directed to llaletin, not Mr. Hendricks!!
You can have mine - I'm not into miniatures, so you're welcome to it. We can work something out where I order it and ship it to you. :D
I hate it that I am unable to buy the Huge Black Dragon – Alternate Paint – from Paizo because I am not a subscriber. I really really want it.PS: Paizo, I really do want that modified alternate Huge Black Dragon with Sorcerer atop.

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Thank you Steve Greer for setting me straight. You were right that I should not have retaliated to (insert here the name of a poster who named his messageboard persona after a movie that is just as much or more an american movie than just about any other out there)'s rant. The point of this thread afterall is to be able to rant without retribution.
But I also agree in the later poster's point that a rant can be that target of another rant. So here is my rant.
I HATE IGNORANT PEOPLE.
I HATE THAT THE PARENTS OF FUTURE IGNORANT PEOPLE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OF IF THEY PERHAPS WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL. (which I am fairly certain is another marvelous american invention)
Tam out

Steve Greer Contributor |

Its funny some dude(cant find his name now!)said people are going to "flame" me and avoid my posts because why...i have a differnt point of view to some people??!!!
Things like this have proven my point about America.
Americans are fine - America as a hole is a pain in my ass!I read that they are going to turn the ruins on the twin towers into a battleship call the USS New York.
I mean come on!!! Turn it into a place where people could go and pay thier respect or something........NOT A BLOODY KILLING MACHINE!!!
And on that note some americans wanted Peter Jackson to change the name of the 2nd LOTR's movie from Two Towers to something eles because it sounded like Twin Towers.
Oh boo frikken hoo!!
YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!And yes Bad Boys 2 rocked!!
I originally gave you the benefit of the doubt that you just wanted to blow off some steam in here with the whole "hate America and Americans" post. And I'm pretty much a habitual peacemaker that for the most part respects other peoples' opinions.
But after reading your repeated posts I'm convinced that you are A) young and naive, but think you know everything there is to know, and B) a complete and utter DICK.

Steve Greer Contributor |

Thank you Steve Greer for setting me straight. You were right that I should not have retaliated to (insert here the name of a poster who named his messageboard persona after a movie that is just as much or more an american movie than just about any other out there)'s rant. The point of this thread afterall is to be able to rant without retribution.
But I also agree in the later poster's point that a rant can be that target of another rant. So here is my rant.
I HATE IGNORANT PEOPLE.
I HATE THAT THE PARENTS OF FUTURE IGNORANT PEOPLE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OF IF THEY PERHAPS WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL. (which I am fairly certain is another marvelous american invention)
Tam out
Heh. Ironically, that is no longer my stance on MR. I HATE AMERICA BUT USE AN AVATAR NAME OF A FICTIONAL AMERICAN HERO ALA SYLVESTER STALONE.

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Now that is funny. I will now take up the burden of carrying the torch, the only light in a sea of inky blackness. That torch that is the right of the ignorant to reproduce and even flourish.
Bring on the ignorance. And remember, it is better to reinforce your argument than raise your voice. And so far I have seen none of the former and to much of the latter.
Tam out

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Eh. I don't mind Rambo that much. At least he's pretty upfront and blatant about his trollishness. It's not like he's spewing out weird arguments about how Zimbabwe is the best country ever and everyone that lives in the U.S. (which is no longer supported by WotC) isn't capable of playing D&D correctly.

Rambo |

Man guys your gonna make me fell bad=(
You think your better than everyone eles and dont say you dont think that because deep down inside you all do.
Im from a little place you probley havnt even heard of -
New Zealand.
A place when the going gets tough we band together - fix it - then move on.
For the first time in american history you lot banded together when those basterds flew the planes into the towers....but you still go on and on and on about it!!
Everywhere i read theres somthing eles about how your fighting the war etc etc, its really getting old.
The hole of your country blamed G.Bush for not acting fast enough when the floods hit, what if i drop a glass of water at work i should blame the boss!!??
Start taking responsiblity for your own actions.
Ok if you wanna reply to this you can but i'll leave it at this, i probley shouldnt have brought it up on a D&D thred but i never asked people to reply to my rant. You took it opon yourselfs to put ya 2 cents in.
Hay its the American way i guess.

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Is anyone else picturing an angry version of the 40-Year-Old Virgin?
[ACCENT=Rocky Balboa]
YOAH, RAMBO if that's whats got you down man, I completely feel for ya man. Does it start hurt after a while? Did all the geeky girls move to america leaving only hot chicks who won't give that time of day to a D&D and WOW geek? If that is the issue dude, rant all you want.[/ACCENT]
Tam out

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Holy crap I found it, there is such a place. And from what I have read within the last few minutes (and since I read it, it's absolutely true, as it would be if I had heard it or seen it on Prime Television NZ) you gotta get oughta there dude.
[LINK]http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/special.htm#problems [/LINK]
Tam

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Man guys your gonna make me fell bad=(
You think your better than everyone eles and dont say you dont think that because deep down inside you all do.Im from a little place you probley havnt even heard of -
New Zealand.
A place when the going gets tough we band together - fix it - then move on.
For the first time in american history you lot banded together when those basterds flew the planes into the towers....but you still go on and on and on about it!!
Everywhere i read theres somthing eles about how your fighting the war etc etc, its really getting old.
The hole of your country blamed G.Bush for not acting fast enough when the floods hit, what if i drop a glass of water at work i should blame the boss!!??
Start taking responsiblity for your own actions.
Ok if you wanna reply to this you can but i'll leave it at this, i probley shouldnt have brought it up on a D&D thred but i never asked people to reply to my rant. You took it opon yourselfs to put ya 2 cents in.Hay its the American way i guess.
If this is a practical joke, it's brilliant.

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Im from a little place you probley havnt even heard of -
New Zealand.
A place when the going gets tough we band together - fix it - then move on.
For the first time in american history you lot banded together when those basterds flew the planes into the towers....but you still go on and on and on about it!!
I'm really glad I have crap on my face now for saying to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, and almost started a discussion with Fakey and The Jade about it, two of my all time favorite posters.
Haven't even heard of New Zealand. Duuuuh, didn't George Lucas film the Tatooine parts of Star Wars there? Duuuuuh... oh, wait, that was Tunisia.It's ironic that someone with such atrocious grammar, spelling, and generally weak writing discipline has to try to take a dig at the typical U.S. citizen's poor knowledge of geography.
And, just shut up about the towers all ready. You sound like a complete wanker. A lot of good people lost their lives in that horrible event. You should show some respect. And there's better ways to address your misgivings about U. S. foreign policy than flaming us about the towers.
Fakey, Jade, whoever else, I'm sorry.