Unarmed Fighter Archetype's Unarmed style errata or clarification


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So the Unarmed Fighter archetype from Ultimate Combat reads:

Unarmed Style

At 1st level, a unarmed fighter gains the Improved Unarmed Strike feat and any single style feat as a bonus feat. The unarmed fighter need not meet all the prerequisites of the style feat he chooses, but style feats that grant additional uses of the Elemental Fist feat cannot be taken until the unarmed fighter has that feat.

This ability replaces the bonus feat at 1st level.

Has there been any errata or development ruling on this archetype?
It seems that as written, considering that style feats are a feat category, that an unarmed fighter can take feats such as Snake fang and Tiger Pounce at first level since they can ignore the prerequisites for a style feats.

Was this the intent of the archetype to allow the fighter to gain a feat that other classes would have to wait until mid levels to aquire?

Am I wrong in thinking that as this archetype is written, it is a very powerful one level dip?

Grand Lodge

Nope.

Everything is working as intended.


Lemme ask you this, how do you think this is gonna work?

Because you know...you need the base Style Feat for the other Feat to even function.

So it comes out to being the same as Master of Many Styles, grab the first Feat as one Feat and whatever other Feat as your bonus.


Good point. I missed the part about how the feats themselves work, cause I was so wrapped up in how this archetype functioned.

Still, I was curios considering that I thought it was the first time I have noticed a class granting a feat at such a huge gap from when you acquire it in the class and when other classes could take it normally, since the martial monk from 3.5 Dragon Magazine. I was caught off guard while book delving late at night and had to make sure. Thanks!


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It was brought up before (don't have link for the thread)...style feats are feats that have the descriptor (combat,style)

The other feats are part of that style'a path but are not themselves style feats and do not have the "style" in their descriptor

If you read the Master of Many Styles bonus feat class feature it mentions taking style feats or alternatively taking a feat in the styles path


^^^ This. So many people miss this fact. Only the base feats have the style descriptor.


Yep, basically what Drakkiel said. It's only for (Style) feats.


Youse guys might wanna re-read your Ultimate Combat some time because they're quite clearly listed on the table under "Style Feats" collectively.


Style is a descriptor and the feats lack it. Feat text trumps table; it's not the first place where there are inaccuracies in the tabled feat information.


Rynjin wrote:

Youse guys might wanna re-read your Ultimate Combat some time because they're quite clearly listed on the table under "Style Feats" collectively.

They're listed there under style feats because they're part of the chain of the first feat, which is a style feat. That doesn't mean that the rest are necessarily style feats, though. If the entry doesn't contain (Style), it's not a style feat.

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