More Keith Baker & Eberron Articles Please


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I just subscribed last week because I'm running Adventure Path 2 in Eberron. I would really like to see more of Keith's work, but he's not working on WotC's upcoming sourcebooks. I liked his article on nobility, but I would like more Eberron specific articles.

Can someone (maybe Mr. Mona) please assure me that I'll see a healthy portion of Eberron material for the next year or so? I'm hoping for something every issue. Conversion notes for ecology articles is very much needed IMO. For example, in the Behir article it would have been nice to read about some example legends of behirs in Eberron. What relationship do behirs have with the Chamber?

Separate "Eberron specific" articles are great too, but I could do with only seeing them in every two or three issues. The most important thing is seeing some coverage in at least one article every month. No one is going to gloss over an article just because it has some Eberron sidebar in it.

Forgotten Realms could use some help too, but Eberron especially because it's such a new setting and can use more help fleshing it out.

Any other Eberron fans out there?


Takasi -

My husband and I are both Eberron fans. He's running the game this time, so I get to experience it as a humble player.

I'm all for more Eberron content, especially sidebars, as I understand that many folks here don't want to be overwhelmed and would take side-bar conversion notes as an acceptable compromise. On the other hand, not to demean Mr Baker, who has done a lovely job, but the editing for some of the books (not in Dungeon or Dragon, but in the setting hard-covers) has really not been up to snuff. My husband is always getting upset at the errors he keeps finding. He even found an error on his brand new Eberron DM's screen.

- Ashavan

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

We're currently sitting on 2 to 3 meaty articles from Keith Baker, all of them set on Eberron. A few more are scheduled to come in. A nice Lords of Dust article came in yesterday, and we'll keep him working as long as he's interested.

--Erik


Yes ... I was perfectly happy with the DM screen. Although I do wish there was a little more Eberron specific information on it. My big beef is that an error on something like a DM screen, which works out to be about 4 pages of material, is completely unaccetable.

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Funny you should mention editing errors...

I spent all day feeling ashamed because a friend of mine (who has played D&D for years) asked me to edit an article of his and I (who have also played D&D for years) did so and missed a glaring error, and let him submit it like that, and the editors didn't catch it either and now we all feel dumb. Stupid brain not working right.

-Amber S.


Medesha wrote:

Funny you should mention editing errors...

I spent all day feeling ashamed because a friend of mine (who has played D&D for years) asked me to edit an article of his and I (who have also played D&D for years) did so and missed a glaring error, and let him submit it like that, and the editors didn't catch it either and now we all feel dumb. Stupid brain not working right.

-Amber S.

Amber -

It's not that I don't appreciate the difficulty... I do. I'm not claiming to be a perfect editor either. But when I see the name of an editor from Dungeon or Dragon magazine on a book (many of the former editors, as I'm sure you're aware, edit for WotC), I expect the quality I'm used to from the magazine. Quite frankly, the content quality is great, but errors missed in editing have been fairly significant. I have only found one error on the screen (I wasn't looking, we were playing an Eberron game and needed to know if a skill was usable untrained. Either the screen is wrong or the PHB is.

The errors in the books have been more frustrating. Names on maps and in key areas not matching, keyed areas with no corresponding area on the map. Places where one level of Sharn was used as a template for another but not all the names got changed.

It is possible that the errors are a coincidence... no book gets through error free, and perhaps the areas we wanted to look at happened to be the error prone sections of the book.

The books feel like they were rushed through the editing process... like the editors were put on an inflexible deadline and not given time to do their work.

- Ashavan

Contributor

I don't know anything about that...I'm just feeling glum over my first obvious snafu, and dreading all the errors I'm bound to make in the future. It's so easy to say "oh yeah, my stuff will be perfect" but editing is a lot harder than it looks. Oh well, I guess I can take the inevitable heat. ;-)

-Amber S.


Erik Mona wrote:

We're currently sitting on 2 to 3 meaty articles from Keith Baker, all of them set on Eberron. A few more are scheduled to come in. A nice Lords of Dust article came in yesterday, and we'll keep him working as long as he's interested.

--Erik

You just made me happy. :)


Keith's Eberron stuff is really interesting, and I find myself drawn to the setting. His take on the drow was very refreshing after years with the FR and Greyhawk variants.

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Amber wrote:

Funny you should mention editing errors...

I spent all day feeling ashamed because a friend of mine (who has played D&D for years) asked me to edit an article of his and I (who have also played D&D for years) did so and missed a glaring error, and let him submit it like that, and the editors didn't catch it either and now we all feel dumb. Stupid brain not working right.

-Amber S.

I'm the friend Amber is talking about...

You don't need to feel ashamed, Amber. I pointed it out to you yesterday as a fun sort of thing, not to make you feel bad. I've been laughing about it since I caught it, so don't feel too terribly bad.

I will say this: ever since I've started writing with the intent to get published (rather than as a lark) and proofreading a lot of Amber's stuff, I've gotten a new appreciation for it all. I find myself less critical of errors I see and more willing to just shrug them off with some snarky comments instead.

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