Paizo will be releasing two compilation hardcovers later this year.
Dungeon Classics: The Shackled City Adventure Path
This much-rumored, highly anticipated release will be available as a single hardcover in July.
The Dragon Compendium
This collection of the most popular "classic" articles from throughout Dragon magazine's 29-year history is scheduled for release in October.
Download the details at http://paizo.com/download/news/PaizoCompilations2005.pdf (252k PDF)
Oh, that compendium shall be mine. It shall indeed.
Thanks for publishing support material for earlier editions, even if it's reprinted. Somebody needs to. Old-school D&Der deserve it.
Will you be keeping the original art that came with all the articles? I sure hope so!
Also, VOLUME ONE! Holy s***, yes!
The Dragon Compendium is now available for preorder.
Creative Director
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Will all content be for 3.5 rules?
And will there be 2nd Edition-stuff updated to 3.5?
I believe that's the plan. There'll be a fair amount of converted 1st Edition stuff in there too, I believe. This project's still a bit down the road though, so exact details of what it'll contain will have to wait for a bit.
Wait a minute.
Converted?
Meaning that this will NOT be classic Dragon material with the original art and text intact?
I don't think I would be interested in buying that. In fact, I know I wouldn't.
Say it ain't so! :(
Wait a minute.
Converted?
Meaning that this will NOT be classic Dragon material with the original art and text intact?
I don't think I would be interested in buying that. In fact, I know I wouldn't.
Say it ain't so! :(
I would!!! a lot of that material is top notch stuff, but converting it is a pain in the tookus. My husband has every issue from something around #29, and I have the CD archive through #250, so a strict compilation would be of less interest to me, seeing some of the old stuff in 3.5 though... that's old content that I can suddenly actually USE again.
- Ashavan
To the editors:
I like the mock up of the cover... I think you should go with it. Minimalism is best!
I'd like to see an Index of 3.5 articles that weren't included.
I agree! I need 3.5 material.
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Wait a minute.
Converted?
Meaning that this will NOT be classic Dragon material with the original art and text intact?
Well, i don't think that it would make sense to re-publish 1st or 2nd materials in these days. The nostalgic aspect of this idea can't sell the book, i guess.
As it seems to be a huge book with about 200+ pages it will be quite expensive to produce and the few gamers that would buy material that can't be used with material from the present edition won't be enough to pull a stunt like this.But i hope that only the stats will be converted and that we'll see the original artwork and flavour-texts (with a little editing here and there).
"Well, i don't think that it would make sense to re-publish 1st or 2nd materials in these days. The nostalgic aspect of this idea can't sell the book, i guess."
Uh, hello? Heard of HackMaster? Castles & Crusades?
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Sure, i heard about these.
But look, today the D&D game and Dragon (in my opinion) are strongly associated with the d20 system.
It wouldn't make sense to irritate the mayor bunch of readers by supporting past edition rules, just to satisfy some nostalgics (no offense!) who (in many cases) own these materials anyway.
When WotC or Paizo would, for example, announce a Planescape-relaunch, i'd be really baffled and irritated if this book would use 2nd edition rules.
This wouldn't make sense to me...
What I am against is mangling old material. It just seems wrong to alter the text of these articles in any way.
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I agree with you, Yamo, except for the stats.
Art, flavour and descriptional texts shouldn't be altered, 'cause i don't see a need to do so.
What i'd like to know is, if there'll be a theme to this companion, 'cause there's tons of material avaiable and i'd like to know how you'll select which articles will be inserted.
Will there be different chapters related to special themes like, for example, a Bazaar Of The Bizarre-chapter?
Or an Ecology-Chapter?
Hell, there's so much great material out there, i'd go nuts if i had to choose which will see printing.
When I started playing D&D a decade ago, I thought all of the AD&D 2nd ed. stuff was great. And getting a chance to see it, and play it, again with the Campaign Classics is sweet. The 1st and 2nd editions were wonderful, for their time. There is only one constant in the universe, and that is change. With every new edition, we can only hope that the change is occurring to improve things. I love Dragon, and since I started collecting it last year (along with playing D&D again), I have been trying to get as many of the older issues as possible. Unfortunately, anything before v. 3.5 is to painful to try and incorperate into the game. I agree that the articles and graphics need not be altered, but updating the stats can only improve the gameplaying potential. And the marketablility of the collected hardcover too. ;)
Wait a minute.
Converted?
Meaning that this will NOT be classic Dragon material with the original art and text intact?
I don't think I would be interested in buying that. In fact, I know I wouldn't.
Say it ain't so! :(
Aww, they're just kidding with you. Of course it'll be all in it's original form. I mean, why wouldn't they cater to the 0.001% of the market that you represent? It'd be silly to ignore you!
"Aww, they're just kidding with you. Of course it'll be all in it's original form. I mean, why wouldn't they cater to the 0.001% of the market that you represent? It'd be silly to ignore you!"
Historical accuracy is more important than catering to any market. Dragon articles are historical documents of the game.
Face it: Printing 1st and 2nd ed stuff won't sell. You may hate it, and it may not fit your ideal supplement, but the vast majority want the stuff in 3.5.
Yeah, people like Hackmaster and C&C for the old school-ness. But that is a very small section fo the market to cater to. Most people are gonna be looking for stuff for 3.5,m and it makes no sense to not givew it to them.
Historical accuracy is more important than catering to any market. Dragon articles are historical documents of the game.
For historical sake, I have the PDF archive that was released some time ago, several best of dragon anthologies, and every issue since #30 or thereabouts in hardcopy. I say hurray for 3.5 updates.
- Ashavan
Historical accuracy is more important than catering to any market. Dragon articles are historical documents of the game.For historical sake, I have the PDF archive that was released some time ago, several best of dragon anthologies, and every issue since #30 or thereabouts in hardcopy. I say hurray for 3.5 updates.
- Ashavan
That's a great resource, that. I had almost every Dragon from, like, #61 on to about 200 I think, but due to a complicated set of circumstances, lost them :( The archive was the next best thing.
I'm looking forward to the compendium. There is so much neat stuff that needs converting that you just don't find in 3.5 these days 'cause it's a different audience that writers are catering to.
Ooh, I wonder if they'll convert the Bard from the Best of Dragon... "Bardsss are nasssssty!"
I know I'll buy the compendium if all of the material is converted. If not, I won't buy it. If I want historical accuracy, I'll just buy the issues I want on ebay.
Rooster
I read this yesterday, and I am ALL OVER IT. My greatest hope is that it'll have the Kercpa article, as well as the Bruce Heard Rakasta and Lupin articles. Oh, and Giff. I love Giff.
Chris
Don't be silly. 3.75 is next. v4.0 beta is still a good three years off.
Relax. 2nd Edition to 3rd was over 10 years.
Plus, 3.5 is only an update on 3, not a new edition. There are no new editions for a long time, not when the current system is so sound. Considering flawed, poorly designed 2nd survivied a decade should say a lot for how long 3.5 will last.
"There are no new editions for a long time, not when the current system is so sound."
I hate the burst your bubble here with some cold, hard facts on the business side of the RPG industry, but the prime motivator for new game edition launchs is not the desire to revise and perfect the game, but the desire (or need) for the big sales spike that accompanies the release of a new version of a popular game.
As soon as sales of the 3.5 corebooks level-off, some suit at WotC will consult his spreadsheets, note that the line's profits are down 7% from last quarter, and new set of rulebooks, here you come!
I'm glad that I don't play any variation of 3E.
Well with the release of Unearthed Arcana, DMGII, and plenty of house rules and other d20 3rd-party sourcebooks I have to say I don't believe there will be a 4E for a good...well...never! There's no need! Making a new edition would mean making everything new: the classes, rules, system, etc., etc. and I really cannot see how much better they can do with a 4E without destryoing D&D itself altogether.
If D&D were an evolutionary being, I'd have to say it has reached its evolutionary peak. From here on, D&D can only go downhill.
...I have to say I don't believe there will be a 4E for a good...well...never!
Trust me on this on Razz, if there is a profit to be made nothing will stand in the way of corporate america. It's nothing personal you understand. It has nothing to do with whether 1E is better than 2E is better than 3E is better than...well you get the picture. It's all about profit. See saw see?
The Dragon Compendium
This collection of the most popular "classic" articles from throughout Dragon magazine's 29-year history is scheduled for release in October.Download the details at http://paizo.com/download/news/PaizoCompilations2005.pdf (252k PDF)
No real details other than prices, page counts, and the size of the book.
Does anyone know of a list of which articles will be reprinted?
Is it true the features/articles will be updated for 3.5 D&D?
Thanks in advance for any information.
I'm glad that I don't play any variation of 3E.
Why? Cuz then you won't be let down when they change editions? You've alreayd been left behind.
You can poo on 3e all you want, man. The fact is it WILL be a long time before they update. They probably will eventually. It doesn't really matter what they do, really, because you are just gonna be down on it anyways and criticize it mercilessly and groundlessly.
I doubt 4e will be a long time away. A couple of years at most.
I hope they finally do away with the sacred cows like hit points and classes. That'd give them more opportunity for printing more expansion products. Classes cripple the system. And the more classes you have, the more burgeoning and cumbersome the system becomes.
And Yamo. Who cares what you think?
"And Yamo. Who cares what you think?"
Probably nobody. Luckily, what I think has nothing to do with how the RPG industry works.