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yes, the everlasting question about grapple(checks)
Our monk grappled a kobald shaman to question him. He made his grappleckeck and won.
Next turn he rolls to check if he can maintain the check (with the +5 bonus) and after that he changes the grapple to a pin.
now on the kobald's turn, the DM rolls a natural 20 to get out of the pin. What should happen next?
Does the shaman go back to being grappled or is he free all together.
And now that i think about it, he made another grapple check to get out, should that have been an Escape Artist roll?
yes, the everlasting question about grapple(checks)
Our monk grappled a kobald shaman to question him. He made his grappleckeck and won.
Next turn he rolls to check if he can maintain the check (with the +5 bonus) and after that he changes the grapple to a pin.now on the kobald's turn, the DM rolls a natural 20 to get out of the pin. What should happen next?
Does the shaman go back to being grappled or is he free all together.
And now that i think about it, he made another grapple check to get out, should that have been an Escape Artist roll?
1) He is being grappled not free after his natural 20.
2) It is his decision to either use a grapple check or an escape artist check both vs CMD of his opponent.In order to understand why 1 is true read the escape artist skill were it clearly states that you do not completely escape after succeeding it during being pinned but instead become grappled. I know the rules about grapple are a complete mess. I hope someday they will decide to answer some questions since this forum is full of flagged posts as F.A.Q. considering grapple, but there are no official answers yet. And yes this is a complain :-(.
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In order to understand why 1 is true read the escape artist skill were it clearly states that you do not completely escape after succeeding it during being pinned but instead become grappled.
Thanks for the quote, I am creating a PFS character who will grapple and it is nice to have something to back up that interpretation when the Pinned condition is ambiguous.
And weird, I am sure I already posted my thanks, but post seems to have been eaten (or deleted).