Pathfinder Adventure Path #206: Bring the House Down (Curtain Call 3 of 3)

Announced for September! Product images and descriptions are not final and are subject to change. :)

Now I REALLY wanna run this - and by Sen H. H. S?! Pinch me.

Interesting.

Oh we *learning about the God of Secrets* are we?

Oh we *learning about the God of Secrets* are we?

*Hype intensifies*

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Heh, yeah. I was pretty excited about being able to put one on the cover. As with all cover NPCs, that's not just a symbol. There's some Big Stuff happening in this Adventure Path!

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Neatly explains why Book 3 wasn't announced alongside Books 1 and 2, too.

In other cover news, bearing in mind that "product images. . . are subject to change," we now have four iconics for Curtain Call: Seoni, Mios, Fumbus, and Jirelle.

firelark01 wrote:

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Neatly explains why Book 3 wasn't announced alongside Books 1 and 2, too.

Yeah. This Adventure Path's place in the meta-event of War of Immortals made it particularly tricky to give it a typical announcement. I'll for sure be chatting about it more once we get to Paizocon, and we'll have more blog posts about it later as well, but if anyone's got questions about this feel free to ask over in the Curtain Call forum here on the site. I'll be lurking there and will answer what I can (or want) to answer.

In other cover news, bearing in mind that "product images. . . are subject to change," we now have four iconics for Curtain Call: Seoni, Mios, Fumbus, and Jirelle.

The iconics for Curtain Call are Lem, Mios, Fumbus, and Jirelle. Seoni would have been a good choice, but...

Lem is the bard, so he HAS to be in the opera Adventure Path.
Jirelle and Mios both look like they'd be rad on stage in an opera.
And Fumbus is there to ensure that the whimsy built into this Adventure Path is on point.

zimmerwald1915 wrote:

firelark01 wrote:

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Neatly explains why Book 3 wasn't announced alongside Books 1 and 2, too.

Yeah. This Adventure Path's place in the meta-event of War of Immortals made it particularly tricky to give it a typical announcement. I'll for sure be chatting about it more once we get to Paizocon, and we'll have more blog posts about it later as well, but if anyone's got questions about this feel free to ask over in the Curtain Call forum here on the site. I'll be lurking there and will answer what I can (or want) to answer.

Can't wait for that forum to get made in a couple months - as someone whose group finished up Hell's Rebels with book 4 at level 12, I'll be very excited to get to talking about how best to bring that forward in to a sequel. (And I recall you considering thinking about advice for that in the players guide back in the book 1 thread).

James Jacobs wrote:

zimmerwald1915 wrote:

firelark01 wrote:

Wasn’t expecting a full on god to show up on the cover of an AP. Like that’s a HUGE npc

Neatly explains why Book 3 wasn't announced alongside Books 1 and 2, too.

Yeah. This Adventure Path's place in the meta-event of War of Immortals made it particularly tricky to give it a typical announcement. I'll for sure be chatting about it more once we get to Paizocon, and we'll have more blog posts about it later as well, but if anyone's got questions about this feel free to ask over in the Curtain Call forum here on the site. I'll be lurking there and will answer what I can (or want) to answer.

Can't wait for that forum to get made in a couple months - as someone whose group finished up Hell's Rebels with book 4 at level 12, I'll be very excited to get to talking about how best to bring that forward in to a sequel. (And I recall you considering thinking about advice for that in the players guide back in the book 1 thread).

Ended up not really putting all that much advice in there for that, but it's for sure a great way to do it if you want!

zimmerwald1915 wrote:

In other cover news, bearing in mind that "product images. . . are subject to change," we now have four iconics for Curtain Call: Seoni, Mios, Fumbus, and Jirelle.

The iconics for Curtain Call are Lem, Mios, Fumbus, and Jirelle. Seoni would have been a good choice, but...

Lem is the bard, so he HAS to be in the opera Adventure Path.
Jirelle and Mios both look like they'd be rad on stage in an opera.
And Fumbus is there to ensure that the whimsy built into this Adventure Path is on point.

I just know Fumbus is going to nail the rare Goblin Aria.

Norgorber here is just looking so KICK ASS here.
I have NEVER been particularly excited about him, but here? Gosh I wanna fight him! Or at least see someone fight him. Feel like that would be an EPIC fight. (Well... I mean, yeah, he's a deity, but STILL. he looks OUT TO KILL.)

Big kudos to the artist.

I just know Fumbus is going to nail the rare Goblin Aria.

Trochee, trochee, amphibrach

So this AP and Triumph of the Tusk will feature Gorums death?

So this AP and Triumph of the Tusk will feature Gorums death?

Triumph sounds like it happens afterwards, and will focus a bit more on the upheavals in the orc pantheon. It's about to lose two gods and gain one. Verex will become a Spawn of Rovagug, and Mahja Firehair has to kill one to ascend. I could be wrong, though. There have been simultaneous APs before (Hell's Rebels/Hell's Vengeance). This AP seems like it will have the death.

Starocotes wrote:

So this AP and Triumph of the Tusk will feature Gorums death?

Triumph sounds like it happens afterwards, and will focus a bit more on the upheavals in the orc pantheon. It's about to lose two gods and gain one. Verex will become a Spawn of Rovagug, and Mahja Firehair has to kill one to ascend. I could be wrong, though. There have been simultaneous APs before (Hell's Rebels/Hell's Vengeance). This AP seems like it will have the death.

I feel like this AP might end right before the actual death, or maybe reveal Norgorber's involvement in the event, similarly how Prey For Death might show Achaekek's part of what I'm guessing is a rather ambitious collaboration of deicide. I thought War of Immortals might contain the scene itself; then again I have been very wrong before; would be one hell of a cliffhanger scene to conclude a level 20 AP

I am so excited about this article on Norgorber! We may finally learn about his background as a mortal. I can never get enough of him!!! Thank you Paizo.

that muscular Astradaemon though

How does this start at level 18 if the adventure page says it ends at 18?

How does this start at level 18 if the adventure page says it ends at 18?

The adventure starts at level 18 and ends at level 20. Not sure where it says it ends at level 18, but if it does say that, that's a typo.

I am so excited about this article on Norgorber! We may finally learn about his background as a mortal. I can never get enough of him!!! Thank you Paizo.

There comes the reveal of the three evil halflings behind the curtains of Norgorber.

CastleDour wrote:

I am so excited about this article on Norgorber! We may finally learn about his background as a mortal. I can never get enough of him!!! Thank you Paizo.

There comes the reveal of the three evil halflings behind the curtains of Norgorber.

This is heresy. Everyone knows that there are four halflings.

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

CastleDour wrote:

I am so excited about this article on Norgorber! We may finally learn about his background as a mortal. I can never get enough of him!!! Thank you Paizo.

There comes the reveal of the three evil halflings behind the curtains of Norgorber.

This is heresy. Everyone knows that there are four halflings.

And their names* are Blackfingers, Father Skinsaw, the Gray Master, and the Reaper of Reputation!

*-- the bit about erasing all knowledge of the original name went further than we realized.

Kavlor wrote:

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

CastleDour wrote:

I am so excited about this article on Norgorber! We may finally learn about his background as a mortal. I can never get enough of him!!! Thank you Paizo.

There comes the reveal of the three evil halflings behind the curtains of Norgorber.

This is heresy. Everyone knows that there are four halflings.

And their names* are Blackfingers, Father Skinsaw, the Gray Master, and the Reaper of Reputation!

*-- the bit about erasing all knowledge of the original name went further than we realized.

I've long suspected that Norgorber was four people in a trenchcoat. Although it creates a troubling precedent, that an adventuring party can complete the Test of the Starstone together.

Can't wait for that forum to get made in a couple months

Less than a month, it turns out.

I was already excited (been wanting to do a theatrical adventure ever since the Council of Thieves) but now I am HYPED! Norgyborgy is one of my favorite deities in Lost Omens, so this is gonna be fun.

that muscular Astradaemon though

"Okay, here me out..."

Evan Tarlton wrote:

Starocotes wrote:

So this AP and Triumph of the Tusk will feature Gorums death?

Triumph sounds like it happens afterwards, and will focus a bit more on the upheavals in the orc pantheon. It's about to lose two gods and gain one. Verex will become a Spawn of Rovagug, and Mahja Firehair has to kill one to ascend. I could be wrong, though. There have been simultaneous APs before (Hell's Rebels/Hell's Vengeance). This AP seems like it will have the death.

I feel like this AP might end right before the actual death, or maybe reveal Norgorber's involvement in the event, similarly how Prey For Death might show Achaekek's part of what I'm guessing is a rather ambitious collaboration of deicide. I thought War of Immortals might contain the scene itself; then again I have been very wrong before; would be one hell of a cliffhanger scene to conclude a level 20 AP

As revealed at PaizoCon, the death happens on screen (NOT in this AP ;))

More precisely, while the PCs don't get to interact directly with the death in Curtain Call...

Calcryx666 wrote:

Evan Tarlton wrote:

Starocotes wrote:

So this AP and Triumph of the Tusk will feature Gorums death?

Triumph sounds like it happens afterwards, and will focus a bit more on the upheavals in the orc pantheon. It's about to lose two gods and gain one. Verex will become a Spawn of Rovagug, and Mahja Firehair has to kill one to ascend. I could be wrong, though. There have been simultaneous APs before (Hell's Rebels/Hell's Vengeance). This AP seems like it will have the death.

I feel like this AP might end right before the actual death, or maybe reveal Norgorber's involvement in the event, similarly how Prey For Death might show Achaekek's part of what I'm guessing is a rather ambitious collaboration of deicide. I thought War of Immortals might contain the scene itself; then again I have been very wrong before; would be one hell of a cliffhanger scene to conclude a level 20 AP

As revealed at PaizoCon, the death happens on screen (NOT in this AP ;))

Yeah my theory got debunked pretty succinctly during a panel; either way I can't wait for both products :-D

3 weeks to go!

Norgorber's true name has been revealed!

I'm pretty amused with his real name!

Any hint as to the new beasties in this one?

Norgorber's true name has been revealed!

** spoiler omitted **

Seriously? Little anti-climactic. Not very operesque (is that a word?).

Operatic, I think?

Norgorber's true name has been revealed!

** spoiler omitted **

I'm pretty amused with his real name!

To be fair, seeing a name revealed in a forum post is a lot less climactic than the same name being revealed over the course of a campaign.

Yeah, folks complaining about the reveal being "underwhelming" are doing it a bit of a disservice, I feel. The overall way in which the PCs learn this (which is one drop in a big bucket of secrets they can learn) is much more operatic and exciting and memorable.

It's a classic example of how a spoiled surprise taken out of context of the rest of the story might feel underwhelming, but also might kind of ruin things for players who want to experience the contextual thrills of the story in play, so regardless of your opinions on this stuff, please do continue to use spoiler tags.

All important stuff for fans in ANY fandom to keep in mind when they push for creators to reveal secrets they've put in place. Manage your expectations and learn to enjoy the story's journey without placing 100% of your satisfaction on something that can never be fully satisfying to everyone. And maybe be at peace with content creators who DON'T want to reveal absolutely everything about something they create. The mysteries of secrets are often so much more powerful and important and compelling when they remain such.

All of which is why we'll never be revealing the details of how and why Aroden died.

Norgorber sounds silly to begin with. I enjoy everything James and Paizo have done with the character so far. I find it all very fitting. It's like those amazingly charismatic people you find who have a terrible voice, or a short stature. He might be the best thief or assassin but he wasn't always so. Even as a deity, Norgorber is second to Akaechek. We do not need another cookie cutter Voldemort or Joker. Norgorber is original and well executed so props to the writing team on this one. I hope his story continues in Golarion (yes I know, nothing before 2026 is planned...)