Regarding Call Celestial Ally... (Sacred Servant Paladin)


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Hi everyone, just wondering if anybody has any experience with the Sacred Servant Paladin archetype?
Specifically the Call Celstial Ally ability...
Just wondering what players and/or GMs have thought of in terms of what is a 'reasonable request'.
In the spell version of Planar Ally it gives several options for duration... would it be reasonable at 12th level to use the ability to call up a Movanic Deva Angel and ask it to 'protect me for a week'?
I know it is very much a GM call and different people will have very different ideas of what is reasonable I just want a general public opinion of what others have done.

Here is the ability for reference:
Call Celestial Ally (Sp): At 8th level, a sacred servant can call upon her deity for aid, in the form of a powerful servant. This allows the sacred servant to cast lesser planar ally once per week as a spell-like ability without having to pay the material component cost or the servant (for reasonable tasks). At 12th level, this improves to planar ally and at 16th level, this improves to greater planar ally. The sacred servant's caster level for this effect is equal to her paladin level. This ability replaces aura of resolve.


A good first step is "anything that won't get them killed." that's not a hard and fast rule of course. But it's a start.

Grand Lodge

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Interzone wrote:

Hi everyone, just wondering if anybody has any experience with the Sacred Servant Paladin archetype?

Specifically the Call Celstial Ally ability...
Just wondering what players and/or GMs have thought of in terms of what is a 'reasonable request'.
In the spell version of Planar Ally it gives several options for duration... would it be reasonable at 12th level to use the ability to call up a Movanic Deva Angel and ask it to 'protect me for a week'?

That depends on the situation. For one thing... You're a Paladin. Which implies that you are a martial character and are supposed to have some ability to protect yourself. It would be far more reasonable to call up such an ally to protect someone else, presumably someone more toward the helpless than you are. Reasonable requests are SHORT TERM. A week is not short term for a celestial being that presumably DOES have it's own agenda or it's lord's agenda to fulfill.


LazarX wrote:


That depends on the situation. For one thing... You're a Paladin. Which implies that you are a martial character and are supposed to have some ability to protect yourself. It would be far more reasonable to call up such an ally to protect someone else, presumably someone more toward the helpless than you are. Reasonable requests are SHORT TERM. A week is not short term for a celestial being that presumably DOES have it's own agenda or it's lord's agenda to fulfill.

Where do you think the line would be between reasonable and unreasonable as far as duration goes? And how much would that depend on what the specific request is?

Grand Lodge

Interzone wrote:
LazarX wrote:


That depends on the situation. For one thing... You're a Paladin. Which implies that you are a martial character and are supposed to have some ability to protect yourself. It would be far more reasonable to call up such an ally to protect someone else, presumably someone more toward the helpless than you are. Reasonable requests are SHORT TERM. A week is not short term for a celestial being that presumably DOES have it's own agenda or it's lord's agenda to fulfill.
Where do you think the line would be between reasonable and unreasonable as far as duration goes? And how much would that depend on what the specific request is?

Like it was said before that's a strictly GM call, and it's going to depend on a lot of situational factors including what your patron expects of you. Just rememember the archetype does say Sacred SERVANT.


I agree with LazarX.

"Help me protect the squishies behind me for this afternoon" would seem reasonable to me.

"Protect me for a week" would not.

"When we meet him, distract the BBEG while I rescue the hostages" - Reasonable

"Take on the BBEG while I clobber mooks" - Not


Also check what Binding Outsiders has to say.

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