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I just find gangster!Valeros hilariously awesome for some reason :D
Anyway, is it odd that I don't find this ending that bleak? I mean it does comment on players possibly being dismayed by "You just prolonged the inevitable so your actions are inconsequental on cosmic scale" narrative, but I don't really find anything that bleak about it .-. Then again I'm not really the audience for lovecraftian horror, I like aesthetics of it but I never really agreed with the message of whats so scary about it xD
(like, jrpgs do similar "ultimate evil cannot be defeated" thing all the time, only difference being they are much more optimistic/idealistic about it)
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Also, why would your Pathfinder campaign get turned into a Call of Cthulhu campaign? It doesn't make sense that level 17-20 living gods with colossal power and world-shaping magic would become feeble, human investigators who don't have any supernatural powers at all, need to use their wits to survive, and are in constant danger of going insane? It's a totally different kind of game!
Did they get de-powered or something?
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Also, why would your Pathfinder campaign get turned into a Call of Cthulhu campaign? It doesn't make sense that level 17-20 living gods with colossal power and world-shaping magic would become feeble, human investigators who don't have any supernatural powers at all, need to use their wits to survive, and are in constant danger of going insane? It's a totally different kind of game!
Did they get de-powered or something?
They don't become human investigators. Its something really meta
All I can say is... Spirits man, spirits
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yeah basically we just get a manifestation of her avatar via the Wake of the Watcher.
What are a Kudimmu and a Shrike Worm?
GV,
Thanks for the first insight and second, yeah I remember that tower. If I had gotten further, it would been a sweet thing to use as a random encounter.
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Jim Groves and I were trying to get every monster in the Bestiary into the adventure (and we would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling Great Old Ones!), and I'm not sure if a gentle race of philosopher poets would have been a great fit. That said, I love the idea. Maybe the ones from Earth were an enlightened offshoot?
PS-Anomalocaris is definitely on my list of creatures to shamefully plagiarize for monster ideas.
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It's saves word count, but I also think it's just cool to give folks monsters and see them used in the adventure. I try to do it as much as possible. Ben was an enormous help with the creatures on this adventure. Because he's a friend in real life, he was also second set of eyes on some of the NPC stat blocks.
** spoiler omitted **Umm, I'm pretty sure you have misunderstood something since gods don't have stats, so bestiary 6 can't have stats for gods.
Also, I'm pretty sure the way cthulhu mythos works, manifestation/avatar/whatever =/= the real thing
How come you didn't known we are getting stats for an Outer God on B6? Although, as you said, it is just a "not as powerful" avatar (but strong enough to rank among the CR 26-30 creatures), it is also the first time we are fighting the manifestation of a real god since Serpents Skull AP.
[edit] Since Iron Gods ;)
As Nyarlathotep is the one with a thousand forms, it's most probably that he will be the one.
Does anyone have a link to information on the Mesopotamian legend the Kudimmu originates from? I can't seem to find anything on Google.
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Does anyone have a link to information on the Mesopotamian legend the Kudimmu originates from? I can't seem to find anything on Google.
It's not a direct adaptation of an folkloric existing creature, but rather based on this idea, as described in wikipedia:
"Salting the earth, or sowing with salt, is the ritual of spreading salt on conquered cities to symbolize a curse on their re-inhabitation.[1][2] It originated as a symbolic practice in the ancient Near East and became a well-established folkloric motif in the Middle Ages.[3] Although concentrated salt is considered toxic to most food crops and despite the proximity of many conquered cities to bodies of saltwater, there is no evidence to show that any conquering nation ever applied sufficient amounts of salt to render large tracts of land unusable"
Thanks MMCJawa.
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** spoiler omitted **Umm, I'm pretty sure you have misunderstood something since gods don't have stats, so bestiary 6 can't have stats for gods.
Also, I'm pretty sure the way cthulhu mythos works, manifestation/avatar/whatever =/= the real thing
How come you didn't known we are getting stats for an Outer God on B6? Although, as you said, it is just a "not as powerful" avatar (but strong enough to rank among the CR 26-30 creatures), it is also the first time we are fighting the manifestation of a real god since Serpents Skull AP.
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As Nyarlathotep is the one with a thousand forms, it's most probably that he will be the one.
I guessed that it was an avatar of Nyarly. Director Dinosaur (aka James) said the idea was on the right track, but wrong.
Fallen,
Mmm. So we might get stats for the Black Pharaoh then is what you're suggesting?
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So let it be written, so let it be done. Daigle is sent by the Chosen One.
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So, I was looking through my copies of books one through five of this path, and I realized, this has been one of the most well-rounded bestiaries I've seen. and we were only missing 3 creature types.
on another note, how do you guys get your copies so fast? I have to wait another 11 days to see all of that Carcosa-ish goodness.
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The art in this book is incredible. Flapper!Seoni is amazing. Gangster!Valeros is sublime. The Leng Ghoul Gendarme is beautiful. The picture of The Iconic Oracle and investigator (whose names escape me just this second) running from a Shoggoth is great too. And that Star Seed image is Horrifying. The Kidimmu is the most menacing grape tree I've ever seen (also the only grape tree because usually grapes grow on vines). The Larva of the Outer Gods looks really cool. And the Shrike Worm is incredibly well named with its penchant for impaling. It definitely looks like something that would impale everything it sees (or you know, doesn't see, given the image and stat-block).
Strat,
Alahazra is the oracle. Quinn is the Investigator.
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So let it be written, so let it be done. Daigle is sent by the Chosen One.or he's one of the MASKS OF NYARLATHOTEP!
That's because Paizo is a Great One spelt P'Izo. Paizocon is really a cover operation for when the cult meets.
So, in this one, your PCs have a chance to end up in 1920's Paris? Must be difficult for any non-human PCs, though I'd love an illustration of Lem courting Josephine Baker. Really, I need to read up on just what historical (and fictional) figures were on the loose in 1920's Paris. Sigh, guess I gotta get this one.
And a question for anyone who looked at Ghatanothoa's stat block -- do they give him a power to duplicate his in-story ability to turn you into a petrified mummy upon so much as looking at him?
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So, in this one, your PCs have a chance to end up in 1920's Paris? Must be difficult for any non-human PCs, though I'd love an illustration of Lem courting Josephine Baker. Really, I need to read up on just what historical (and fictional) figures were on the loose in 1920's Paris. Sigh, guess I gotta get this one.
Did you ever see the TV show Once Upon a Time? On that show, non-humans were transformed into humans while they were in the Land Without Magic. I would imagine that a similar solution could work here. I think this adventure (in the "Continuing the Campaign" section) involves rebuilding the characters using Call of Cthulhu rules anyway.
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So, in this one, your PCs have a chance to end up in 1920's Paris? Must be difficult for any non-human PCs, though I'd love an illustration of Lem courting Josephine Baker. Really, I need to read up on just what historical (and fictional) figures were on the loose in 1920's Paris. Sigh, guess I gotta get this one.
And a question for anyone who looked at Ghatanothoa's stat block -- do they give him a power to duplicate his in-story ability to turn you into a petrified mummy upon so much as looking at him?
They don't end up in "real" Paris though.
And to answer that
Edit: Dang it, got ninja'd here? D: First time over here
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Benchak,
Everyone who answered my questions, thank you.
Oh, and speaking of obscure callbacks, does anyone remember a certain Candelmere Tower that showed up all the way back in the second Kingmaker adventure? One with prayers to Yog-Sothoth carved into it? We finally figure out what it's original purpose was. I love that the authors/developers keep these past loose threads in mind, no matter how small.
Seeing as how that was one of my favorite bits from that AP, what was its purpose?
For that matter, just which Great Old Ones besides Ghatanothoa were sttated up in this AP?
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Oh, and speaking of obscure callbacks, does anyone remember a certain Candelmere Tower that showed up all the way back in the second Kingmaker adventure? One with prayers to Yog-Sothoth carved into it? We finally figure out what it's original purpose was. I love that the authors/developers keep these past loose threads in mind, no matter how small.
Seeing as how that was one of my favorite bits from that AP, what was its purpose?
For that matter, just which Great Old Ones besides Ghatanothoa were sttated up in this AP?
The whole Candlemere/Yog-Sothoth element for that adventure was basically nothing more than a Lovecraft easter egg I threw in. I don't THINK it was an element that Rob wrote into the adventure... I'm pretty sure it was just me goofing around and wanting to have a tiny little bit of Lovecraft in there... but ALSO to determine how folks would react to having a tiny little dollop of HPL in an otherwise non-HPL adventure. That, plus folks' reacitons to the larger HPL elements that appeared in Runelords and Crimson Throne are all puzzle pieces that, when put together, resulted in us being able to do the Strange Aeons Adventure Path, and to putting Cthulhu in and on a Bestiary.