Armored Kilts and Breastplate

If i wear to add a Armored Kilt to a Breastplate and its weight changed to Heavy, does that mean i have to have armored proficiency Heavy To wear it and would buying a Mithral version of said armor cost the 9k for heavy of the 4k for medium?

You must have Heavy Armor Proficiency in order to wear a breastplate+kilt together, as it is considered a heavy armor.

Mithral versions of each of the components are calculated separately. A mithral version of that combination would still be considered heavy armor for the sake of proficiencies.

Yes, it would change to Heavy and you would need Heavy proficiency to wear it. Getting the armor in Mithral will not change the proficiency requirement.

I would suggest buying the breastplate in Mithral and then the kilt in Mithral and pay for them separately to figure out the Mithral cost.

Yes, it would change to Heavy and you would need Heavy proficiency to wear it. Getting the armor in Mithral will not change the proficiency requirement.

I would suggest buying the breastplate in Mithral and then the kilt in Mithral and pay for them separately to figure out the Mithral cost.

What if i just made the Kilt Mithril. Its considered a Light armor worn by itself. If i made it mithril would it still increase the armor to heavy?

What if i just made the Kilt Mithril. Its considered a Light armor worn by itself. If i made it mithril would it still increase the armor to heavy?

Yes. Armor cannot be lighter than Light.

Mithral does not alter an armored kilt's category—it remains light armor, and when worn in conjunction with other armor continues to make the rest of the armor bulkier.

EDIT - Ninja'd by the man!

The key point I would ask as a DM is are you trying to get your AC as high as possible in a Min/Max way or do you have an RP reason for adding the kilt?

From the way you are asking the questions I get the impression you are trying to find a way to play the system for the best number possible. While that is a good hobby many people like to try and can be fun in it's own right it is going to bias if a DM allows it or not.

By the rules adding a kilt to medium armor will always increase it to heavy no matter what the kilt or armor is made out of.

With me as your DM this will also be the answer unless there is an RP reason that you are going for the kilt... such as you were just awarded an honorary position in the kings guard and they all wear the armored kilts. If this were the case I would be more likely to allow a mithral version of the armor to stay medium. But if you just want to squeak out some more AC then you really do need the feat.

EDIT - Ninja'd by the man!

The key point I would ask as a DM is are you trying to get your AC as high as possible in a Min/Max way or do you have an RP reason for adding the kilt?

From the way you are asking the questions I get the impression you are trying to find a way to play the system for the best number possible. While that is a good hobby many people like to try and can be fun in it's own right it is going to bias if a DM allows it or not.

By the rules adding a kilt to medium armor will always increase it to heavy no matter what the kilt or armor is made out of.

With me as your DM this will also be the answer unless there is an RP reason that you are going for the kilt... such as you were just awarded an honorary position in the kings guard and they all wear the armored kilts. If this were the case I would be more likely to allow a mithral version of the armor to stay medium. But if you just want to squeak out some more AC then you really do need the feat.

It serves two purposes at once. And this question is in relation to a Pathfinder Society Character. I am a dwarven cleric. I cant wear heavy armor, so I'm wearing a Breastplate. I chose breastplate because of his worship of Abadar. My faction is Quadira and that is where these Armored kilts come from when i read the info in the adventures armory. So it does have a rp purpose for my society character but i still need it to be legit for rules because hes a society character.

But i don't really see a way other than to buy Mithril Breastplate and then where a armored kilt thus making it a medium Armor. Unfortunately i cant afford or access such things yet as my PA isn't high enough.

Edit: Also i sound like I'm trying to get the highest number possible? my ac is 17 from a negative one dex modifier i don't really see how you get a power gaming feeling from me trying to find a way to wear a legit piece of armor, but whatever i suppose.

That clarifies what you are looking for better and will allow some folks to better help answer your question or find alternatives. I am not up on all the Pathfinder Society rules, but there are lots of folks on here who are, so they should be able to give you some options.

That clarifies what you are looking for better and will allow some folks to better help answer your question or find alternatives. I am not up on all the Pathfinder Society rules, but there are lots of folks on here who are, so they should be able to give you some options.

You just made me realize i should have put this on the pathfinder society forums. But I'm pretty sure i got my answer anyway as is, thanks.

PA should not have an effect, you can always buy mithiril items without PA.

I am nearly 99% sure.

PA should not have an effect, you can always buy mithiril items without PA.

I am nearly 99% sure.

its the price cap. i have 12 pa which means my price cap is 1300 or something right around there. i need 18 to get to 3k or more.

Yeah but it is exempt as an always available item. So if you have the gold you should be able to purchase it.

Yeah but it is exempt as an always available item. So if you have the gold you should be able to purchase it.

Check the PFS guide, I think Armored Kilt is disallowed.

Now what I don't get..

why does the kilt increase prof, but mithral not decrease it?

From what I have read in the PFS guide and previous conversations with VC's, you can always get items made from special material according to the special material rules.

So armored kilt you could buy if you have the Adventurers Armory. It is legal.

Getting a Mithiril Breast, should follow as an always available item. Since it is mundane. Of course it has a decent cost.

Following these rules, I have one PFS character in mithiril full plate, that I recently had enchanted to +1.

As well as another character with Elven Chain, not yet enchanted.

From what I have read in the PFS guide and previous conversations with VC's, you can always get items made from special material according to the special material rules.

So armored kilt you could buy if you have the Adventurers Armory. It is legal.

Getting a Mithiril Breast, should follow as an always available item. Since it is mundane. Of course it has a decent cost.

Following these rules, I have one PFS character in mithiril full plate, that I recently had enchanted to +1.

As well as another character with Elven Chain, not yet enchanted.

Your right mithril is always available. the only thing that has a restriction is dragon hide. So i guess i can buy that mithril breastplate and armored kilt. Cool thanks

:)

FYI: Armored Kilts are not currently legal in Society organized play.

Min/max games: Every low-level DEX 16 character who cares about his armor-check penalties would get one of those and wear it with a chainshirt -- and look like a total buffoon even though, by the rules, it "works".