Fog Cloud Spell?

CRB: A creature within 5 feet has concealment (attacks have a 20% miss chance).Creatures farther away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker can’t use sight to locate the target).

Question: If I cast cloud fog on my own square I get concealment from attacks but my attackers also get concealment from me right?

Correct.

Yes if you are adjacent it's only 20% but any further away and you can't see them at all. It goes both ways.

--School of Vrock

Of course if you at the edge of the fog you still have concealment (20%)
and the person outside the fog is clear to you.

Of course if you at the edge of the fog you still have concealment (20%)

and the person outside the fog is clear to you.

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead, but this came up in a session recently.

If you are in the area of a fog cloud, aren't you affected by the fog cloud? Meaning that people adjacent to you have concealment, and those farther away have total concealment? Regardless of where you are in the cloud, it should affect you the same way right? Does being in the last affected square of the area make you immune to the sight restrictions as Jacob suggests?

For example, if an archer takes a 5' step INTO the fog and turns around, are all his targets perfectly visible (ignoring the "A creature within 5 feet has concealment (attacks have a 20% miss chance). Creatures farther away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker can’t use sight to locate the target)." from the spell description)? And others only treat him as having concealment regardless of how far away they are? Again, that seems like it is ignoring the "within 5 feet = concealment, farther = total concealment" part of the spell.

I know the "5' square" is an abstraction (you aren't actually swinging a sword at someone 5' away from you if you are adjacent), but if you are in a 5'x 5' square of fog isn't there still fog between you and the next square, even if the next square is clear of fog?

From the rules:

To determine whether your target has concealment from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target's square passes through a square or border that provides concealment, the target has concealment.

If you choose one of the corners in your square that is at the edge of the cloud, the lines to all of your opponent's square do not pass through any square or border that provides concealment.

However, two of the lines drawn from your opponent to your square will pass through the obscured square and thus you have concealment.

From the rules:

Quote:

To determine whether your target has concealment from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target's square passes through a square or border that provides concealment, the target has concealment.

If you choose one of the corners in your square that is at the edge of the cloud, the lines to all of your opponent's square do not pass through any square or border that provides concealment.

However, two of the lines drawn from your opponent to your square will pass through the obscured square and thus you have concealment.

That's a strong rules argument. It's not a particularly elegant outcome but it's a clear result.

_Ozy_ wrote:

From the rules:

Quote:

To determine whether your target has concealment from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target's square passes through a square or border that provides concealment, the target has concealment.

If you choose one of the corners in your square that is at the edge of the cloud, the lines to all of your opponent's square do not pass through any square or border that provides concealment.

However, two of the lines drawn from your opponent to your square will pass through the obscured square and thus you have concealment.

That's a strong rules argument. It's not a particularly elegant outcome but it's a clear result.

So I guess even though you are affected by the spell, you aren't affected by the spell.

The point is that you're hiding in the fog, so you get concealment. But you're peeking out of the edge of it, so you can see those outside clearly. ie The fog in your own square doesn't affect your vision.