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And, of course, my broken record request....** spoiler omitted **
That will be in the forthcoming "Undead Creatures Only Aberzombie Wants, Revisited".
Hey man! Don't project your hate and prejudice onto everybody else. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who to see new (or revised) undead.
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Hey man! Don't project your hate and prejudice onto everybody else. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who to see new (or revised) undead.
And, of course, my broken record request....** spoiler omitted **
That will be in the forthcoming "Undead Creatures Only Aberzombie Wants, Revisited".
I second that! Ju Ju Zombies rock! I'd also ask for Yellow Musk Zombies, and more variant Liches...
Hey man! Don't project your hate and prejudice onto everybody else. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who to see new (or revised) undead.
And, of course, my broken record request....** spoiler omitted **
That will be in the forthcoming "Undead Creatures Only Aberzombie Wants, Revisited".
You're right. I'm just bitter about the lack of al-mi'raj in a book.
Hug?
I second that! Ju Ju Zombies rock! I'd also ask for Yellow Musk Zombies, and more variant Liches...Hey man! Don't project your hate and prejudice onto everybody else. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who to see new (or revised) undead.
And, of course, my broken record request....** spoiler omitted **
That will be in the forthcoming "Undead Creatures Only Aberzombie Wants, Revisited".
Thirding. Ju Ju Zombies are a must, and the Yellow Musk Creeper/Zombie would be great.
Uh, guys, Bestiary pg. 285.
Yellow Musk Creeper!
Uh, guys, Bestiary pg. 285....Yellow Musk Creeper!
And it includes a couple paragraphs on how to establish a Yellow Musk Zombie.
What are Aeons, again? paragon NN race?? you lost me....am I right that Aeons are the paragon NN race ?Yes.
There's an iconic outsider race for each alignment:
LG: Archons
NG: Agathions
CG: Azata
LN: Axiomites
NN: Aeons
CN: Proteans
LE: Devils
NE: Daemons
CE: Demons
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What are Aeons, again? paragon NN race?? you lost me....am I right that Aeons are the paragon NN race ?Yes.There's an iconic outsider race for each alignment:
LG: Archons
NG: Agathions
CG: Azata
LN: Axiomites
NN: Aeons
CN: Proteans
LE: Devils
NE: Daemons
CE: Demons
This isn't QUITE exact.
The LN planar race are the inevitables. The axiomites are still in there, but they're a single race, more like how the xills or the couatls or the salamanders work. The inevitables, on the other hand, are a full-on racial category of outsiders with racial traits and numerous different types, like devils and demons and the like.
I knew pretty much every monster in Bestiary I so I didn't really miss the lack of details on ecology, organization, tactics etc. but since most of the monsters will be new will we still get pages whose layout is taken 40% by artwork, 50& by stats and 10% by 5 lines of description?
PS: as a note, I am totally in love with the Bestiary I and so far almost everything published by Paizo, but sometimes even the best need some words of criticism and blame to keep the standards high :)
Hooray! Hippogriffs!
I'm not really big on multiple monster books, though. Having to juggle lots of monster books during an adventure is one reason the MMII and Creature Collection almost never got opened during my 3.5 DMing days. It'll depend in large part on the selection of monsters and how enticing they are whether or not I can pry my wallet open for another book. Even if it does have my dear hippogriff hostage.
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I knew pretty much every monster in Bestiary I so I didn't really miss the lack of details on ecology, organization, tactics etc. but since most of the monsters will be new will we still get pages whose layout is taken 40% by artwork, 50& by stats and 10% by 5 lines of description?
PS: as a note, I am totally in love with the Bestiary I and so far almost everything published by Paizo, but sometimes even the best need some words of criticism and blame to keep the standards high :)
The format will remain the same. We learned a lot about building a book this way with the first bestiary, so this one should have a bit better balance between stats and text. And to be fair, the majority of the monsters in Bestiary 1 DID have more than 5 lines of description. Most have one or two paragraphs, in fact. Quite a few had more than a column of text.
This isn't QUITE exact.
The LN planar race are the inevitables. The axiomites are still in there, but they're a single race, more like how the xills or the couatls or the salamanders work. The inevitables, on the other hand, are a full-on racial category of outsiders with racial traits and numerous different types, like devils and demons and the like.
Psst, cause I ran out of space to talk about them more. I'd love to detail different types of axiomites within their racial heirarchy, those making up the Godmind, etc. ;)
And we need more types of daemons too. Can never have too many. :D
The format will remain the same. We learned a lot about building a book this way with the first bestiary, so this one should have a bit better balance between stats and text. And to be fair, the majority of the monsters in Bestiary 1 DID have more than 5 lines of description. Most have one or two paragraphs, in fact. Quite a few had more than a column of text.I knew pretty much every monster in Bestiary I so I didn't really miss the lack of details on ecology, organization, tactics etc. but since most of the monsters will be new will we still get pages whose layout is taken 40% by artwork, 50& by stats and 10% by 5 lines of description?
PS: as a note, I am totally in love with the Bestiary I and so far almost everything published by Paizo, but sometimes even the best need some words of criticism and blame to keep the standards high :)
Honestly, I would have liked to have at least a dozen or more paragraphs for every monster in the book that I don't know, and not just one or two (at best). They did a nice work one the latest D&D MM books, heck even in the 2E Monstrous Compendium, even if most of those monsters were really bad. Actually I won't mind at all if every single monster had a full page of specs and detail (and general tactics, and ecology, and customs, and dress and diet, and general hints on their place in Golarion etc.) AND a full page of artwork and stats. Compared to all the old monster manuals, I have the impression that the descriptive text is really scarce in the new bestiary. Yet it's probably just me. Then we have all those amazing "Revisited" (dungeon, classic horror, classic monsters) booklets, but that would be overkill to cover every single creature with that level of detail. I just would like some more.
That said, I am going to buy it anyway since I have subscribed to the product line - aehm.
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Honestly, I would have liked to have at least a dozen or more paragraphs for every monster in the book that I don't know, and not just one or two (at best). They did a nice work one the latest D&D MM books, heck even in the 2E Monstrous Compendium, even if most of those monsters were really bad. Actually I won't mind at all if every single monster had a full page of specs and detail (and general tactics, and ecology, and customs, and dress and diet, and general hints on their place in Golarion etc.) AND a full page of artwork and stats. Compared to all the old monster manuals, I have the impression that the descriptive text is really scarce in the new bestiary. Yet it's probably just me. Then we have all those amazing "Revisited" (dungeon, classic horror, classic monsters) booklets, but that would be overkill to cover every single creature with that level of detail. I just would like some more.
That said, I am going to buy it anyway since I have subscribed to the product line - aehm.
A monster bestiary's not the place to get into that much detail though... we have plenty of other places where we can get really in depth on discussing monsters, be it in a Pathfinder AP or in one of our monsters revisited books (Which we do 2-3 a year of). The bestiary itself is supposed to primarily be a place where you go to get the rules for a monster, after all.
Compared to the 3rd edition monster manual, our Bestiary's flavor text IS comperable. It's easy to think it's not, since the 3E monster manuals (as well as those that came before in earlier editions) include the unusual special abilities and attacks of the monster in that flavor text. For Pathfinder, all of that rules content is in the stat block, leaving the flavor text with no other job than being flavor text.
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I'd agree with that James, though the one thing I miss is having the ability description for the common abilites/traits/subtypes within the monster write up. I love what you guys did, but I kind of wish I didn't have to flip to the back. I'm wondering if it would be too much to just add a page reference after the item, i.e. Undead (p309) or Swarm (p312)? That would help speed it up so you don't have to then search for your subject.
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I'd agree with that James, though the one thing I miss is having the ability description for the common abilites/traits/subtypes within the monster write up. I love what you guys did, but I kind of wish I didn't have to flip to the back. I'm wondering if it would be too much to just add a page reference after the item, i.e. Undead (p309) or Swarm (p312)? That would help speed it up so you don't have to then search for your subject.
I hear ya... but the good news is that the more you play the game, the easier it gets. You don't have to flip to the rogue writeup to find out how sneak attack works, or to the barbarian entry for rage really. By standardizing how things like swallow whole, breath weapons, constrict, and all the rest work, the more you use those monsters the easier they'll get to run.
We thought, at an early point in the Bestiary's life cycle, about writing a page number reference after all of the universal monster abilities, but in most cases the stat blocks are SO TIGHT that doing so would ruin layout. Especially for things like dragons, who are overly compact as it is. We DID put an index of the universal monster abilities in the back, though, so that should help.
And of course, if you're using the PDF or the PRD, everything's all hyperlinked so it's easier than ever if you game with a laptop or a computer nearby.
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I'd agree with that James, though the one thing I miss is having the ability description for the common abilites/traits/subtypes within the monster write up. I love what you guys did, but I kind of wish I didn't have to flip to the back. I'm wondering if it would be too much to just add a page reference after the item, i.e. Undead (p309) or Swarm (p312)? That would help speed it up so you don't have to then search for your subject.
Hmmm... I've been using the Bestiary so much that it's actually pretty quick and easy to find the abilities and subtypes and templates. In retrospect, I think Paizo did the right -- including the descriptions of these abilities, or even page references, would just take up more space.
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I'd agree with that James, though the one thing I miss is having the ability description for the common abilites/traits/subtypes within the monster write up. I love what you guys did, but I kind of wish I didn't have to flip to the back. I'm wondering if it would be too much to just add a page reference after the item, i.e. Undead (p309) or Swarm (p312)? That would help speed it up so you don't have to then search for your subject.Hmmm... I've been using the Bestiary so much that it's actually pretty quick and easy to find the abilities and subtypes and templates. In retrospect, I think Paizo did the right -- including the descriptions of these abilities, or even page references, would just take up more space.
I just use a little Post-It page marker.
Compared to the 3rd edition monster manual, our Bestiary's flavor text IS (edit)far superior(edit).
Fixed that for you James. The quality of the copy and the turn of phrase in the Bestiary is much more evocative. The Bestiary writers obviously read more fantasy and emulate the best authors. Give me the Bestiary hands down for flavor text (and the CRB for class descriptions too)
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Will wereboars, werebears, weretigers and werevipers be in this one?
I believe we'll have entries for wereboars, werebears, and weretigers (thus having entries for ALL 5 lycanthropes that appeared in the original 1st edition MM) in Bestairy 2, but that's it. The thing's a template, though, so there's really not much preventing anyone from using that template to make any werecreatures they want right now.
One last question, I promise. Can we expect to see more evil fey in Bestiary 2?
By the seven-pointed star and the rampant moon, I hope so!
The thing's a template, though, so there's really not much preventing anyone from using that template to make any werecreatures they want right now.I know, but my hands begin to cramp up from writing that much. One last question, I promise. Can we expect to see more evil fey in Bestiary 2?
I'd honestly rather see a LOT more fey from folklore, which would probably mean a lot of CN ones. I get really tired of the made-up Evil Emo Fey like the 3.5e shadar-kai.
I was just watching Life After People and realized just how awesome some form of giant Asian carp would be. It would need a different name of course.
Verme (1st ed. MMII).
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I'd honestly rather see a LOT more fey from folklore, which would probably mean a lot of CN ones. I get really tired of the made-up Evil Emo Fey like the 3.5e shadar-kai.The thing's a template, though, so there's really not much preventing anyone from using that template to make any werecreatures they want right now.I know, but my hands begin to cramp up from writing that much. One last question, I promise. Can we expect to see more evil fey in Bestiary 2?
I was actually thinking more along the lines of redcaps and the Unseelie Court rather than Angsty the Emo Fey.
I was actually thinking more along the lines of redcaps and the Unseelie Court rather than Angsty the Emo Fey.
Right on! Down with Angsty.
Jesus! Another one is coming. Now I know what I'll be getting in October. lol