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Marco Massoudi wrote:

These seem to be variations of order flip-mats, but man are they busy/useful!

I especially like the little walkways and bridges in the forest, but the fog in the city streets is a very nice touch and useful for concealment...
Instant buy!

I agree with you and like the finer attention to detail on these that you noticed and called attention to. However I have to say that like you I notice the similarity of previous flip mats I have and at first I thought that the images were simply placeholder images copied from previous flip mats.

These map sample images do looks nicer than similar previous ones that I already own, and may be indication of an improvement in artwork on what was already a pretty amazing product line to this point. Just for that reason alone I am tempted to get these, however the similarity to what I already own may push me to giving these a miss, and spending the money on different Paizo products instead.


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I love the idea of this. I second Owen K. C. Stephens' insight that this would be a userful tool for GM's to prepare specific rule set card in advance of specific encounters, as well as Jhaeman's great idea to use as a tool to hand out to players taking on unfamiliar roles and who need to get up to speed quickly during play.

I have a question with regards to the usability of these cards as a set. How will each subsection of rules descirbed on the cards be classified and categorized? Will there be different color coding for cards dealing with a specific subset of rules, or special icons on each card for easy classification and identification? Will the cards with rules and roles for spaceship combat be distinguished somehow from the cards dealing with class specific traits, or from spell cards?

As Marco Massoudi points out, it can potentially get time consuming flipping through cards. If there is a good classification of the cards and the type of rule they reference, this can facilitate their ease of use. Even if the cards are numbered, many times a deck in my posession will quickly get mixed out of order as I customize their order to suit a specific character or situation.

I am sure that Paizo already had a meeting or two about this and I would love to hear a little more on how this set will be organized and how each card subject will be distinguished from others and classified.


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Redelia wrote:
Sad face... I was really excited about an AP starting at higher level, but I have no interest in horror.

Seconded!, and while I am relieved that at least 2 x 3 AP set story adventures will still take my character from level 1 thought 14 and beyond, I am really hoping that this is not going to wind up feeling like a video game converted to Starfinder as the plot description implies.


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WOW - Speachless (In a good way!)

Not only is Paizo, pro-active, upfront, transparent, responsive in all of this, but they are also taking responsability and showing loyalty towards their clients which they obviously value so much, in that they are giving a credit to compensate clients for delays that are out of their control.

And I am not even mentioning that throughout this delay, all the materials are made available digitally for free. So the impact of the delay is mitigated by the fact that the materials are already avaialable to Paizo customers in digital format. (Well OK, I am mentioning it.)

I wish all companies I deal with would take example from this unprecendented and unheard of level of customer support.

As a proud customer of Paizo, I see no cause for concern, alarm or complaint by any of this. I cannot wait to start testing 2.0 with my Pathfinder group (giddy girly excitement a'la Stewie from Family Guy)

A shout out also to Vic Wertz, who so obviously dedicated so much time and effort to this issue and ot answering all the concerns listed by people on this post. Consider how much extra time he would have had to perform other responsabilities, but clearly he is putting customer concerns over all other work obligations.

OK - so not so speachless as I orinally stated at the beginning. I just felt inspired and compelled to voice this acclamation to the entire Paizo family of employees. The fact that as a longtime customer of Paizo, it has been my experience not expect anything less from Paizo, does not mean that I cannot still be pleasantly surprised from, and in awe of, Paizo surpassing themselves.


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@Schoon - I agree with you as well and am glad for this forum for us to express such. However in this blog they announced 2 three-volume APs. Nothing says that they could not go in the other direction. They also announced returning to the six-volume APs afterwards, which I express my support and appreciation for!


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Yakman wrote:
If you want to start running a high level campaign, it's an option. If you want to go back to characters which you bade farewell to maybe years ago, it's an option. If you want to run a mega - nine part AP all in a row, well there you go.

Yes, agreed 100%, and this is exactly the type of thing I love to pay Paizo to create for me!


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I do not want to diminish the voices that are in favor of shorter (perhaps 3 part) adventure paths, however I do want to voice my opinion as to why I will always prefer a longer more in-depth (perhaps 6 part) adventure path. I love Adventure Paths that develop characters, story and skills through a longer campaign with higher leveling potential. This applies to both Pathfinder as well as Starfinder Adventure Paths. I am posting here in response to the announcement of the August and November planned 3 part adventure path format, and in response to the points I have read from other posts in this forum.

I am a big fan of Adventure Paths. I am not a “creative type”, and I count on the creative AP team Paizo commissions to create engaging and epic adventures for me and my friends to play through. While it would be an easier task for me to create a few low level adventures that tie together somehow, the value in the Adventure Paths substantially increases with the higher level installments which would be ultimately more difficult for an amateur like myself to story-board and balance encounters for.

I love character development and continuity. I love being able to play a character from first level to 16 and beyond and apply new skills earned with each level, to the increasingly complex problems and scenarios/encounters in the upper level Adventure Paths. And yes, you can read from the above that I am also a completionist. I would prefer to take a single character from level 1 through 16 (or more), than take 2 characters from level 1 through 10 in the same amount of time.

While in the past it could be challenging for a single group to go through an entire Adventure Path meeting every week or two in person at an individual location, the reality of FRP gaming is changing. With the increasing popularity of VTTs and proliferation of Paizo Adventure Paths available for those platforms, it is becoming easier to find committed and consistent players to play at scheduled times. I will always value the in-person, around the table playing sessions over anything on-line, but play in both formats and appreciate the advantages that each venue of play has to offer.

Finally, if a shorter AP is preferred for your group, it is likely an easy transition for that group to play through any X number of consecutive APs from any 6 part AP. They are written so that the end of any adventure path (part X of 6) could be modified to seem like the end of a campaign. That option will always exist for groups. It is (arguably) much more difficult for a less creative GM to somehow create extra (and higher level) content in order to extend a 3 part published AP into a 6 part AP campaign.

I am supportive of Paizo innovating and trying new ideas, and I will be playing through the 3 part AP format regardless, and maybe my opinions will change. As others have discussed in other forums, I have so far found the individual Strafinder Dead Suns APs to be a little thin on adventuring content and story compared to the Pathfinder AP’s. So a “half-sized” published Starfinder campaign has me more than a little apprehensive that the depth of the campaign may be less than its full potential.

I have always appreciated the Paizo Adventure Paths in their current length. Even at 6 parts, I find myself only wanting more, and never wanting less!


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Your Rise of the Runelords and Curse of the Crimson Throne PDFs should now be recognized when syncing with Fantasy Grounds. Thanks for your patience!

Hello Vic, - Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to take care of this! - I can confirm that the purchases are recognized and the discount was successfully applied.


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Brother Fen wrote:
I've wanted something like this for quite some time.

In the meantime you can also check out the Pathfinder Map Pack, Forest Dangers, PZO4057. Three of the 18 tiles are fire themed and may serve you well until this flip-mat comes out. I do agree that I'll probably get good use out of this one when it comes out, as in general I use the flip-mats much more than map packs.


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Hello Vic, - Thank you for taking the time to personally answer my post. I realize that this may be a tricky problem technically, and I know you guys are very busy always and especially around this time.
However if I can make a helpful suggestion, perhaps try to offer a duplicate item in the Fantasy Grounds store with an Fantasy Grounds item number of PZOSMWPZO1021LFG instead of PZOSMWPZO1021FG that synchronizes with PZO1021-LEE(in the case of Curse of the Crimson Throne for example). This store item could contain an extra descriptions indicating that this item correlates to the PDF version cataloged with the Limited Edition Hardcover Paizo purchase, with a link to the PZOSMWPZO1021FG item for those who own PZO1021E. This may be an expedient (if inelegant) solution. Please feel free to call me Jake, and I hope this is helpful!


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It seems that I have a similar issue and therefore do not know if this is an issue that was resolved only for a certain product or purchase.

I made the following purchases:

1 - Pathfinder Adventure Path: Rise of the Runelords Deluxe Collector's Edition (PFRPG) Hardcover on December 22nd, 2015 ,order # 3798199

2 - Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG) Limited Edition Hardcover on September 30th 2016, order # 4078003

Both purchases made me eligible for the PDF versions of the sets.  I recently subscribed to Fantasy Grounds, and am able to get the PDF price cost off of adventure paths that I own in PDF form that come from my subscription service.  When I synchronized my account and purchased other adventure paths trough Fantasy grounds, the discount was applied.  However for both these sets the PDF versions cost $41.99, and the cost on Fantasy Grounds is $59.99.  This means that I should be eligible to purchase both on Fantasy Grounds for $18.00 each.  Unfortunately Fantasy Grounds is not recognizing the PDF value on the more expensive print versions that I purchased (I elected for the Deluxe Collector's Edition of RotRL PZO1002-L, and the Limited Edition Hardcover for CotCT PZO1021-LE), while I suspect that had I purchased the less expensive PZO1021 and PZO1002, that Fantasy Grounds would recognize and apply the discount for both these adventure paths set on their platforms.


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Mine is finally on the way, and I can't wait to try it out. It seems like a really great design for its use and I appreciate how clever it opens flat to make it convenient when stuffing in between printed materials. Chavamana had a great idea to improve the product by replacing the snaps with magnets, and I may try to rig something like this myself once I have the item in hand and check out this feasibility. I would love to know how durable a material the core is made of.

The tray design will keep all the bones from scattering, and the dark background will make reading rolled bones a cinch.


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User7866 wrote:

More ships!

Excellent!!
Can never have enough multi-deck ships!!!

Now, I just have to buy two of them so that I can have persons on deck and below deck at the same time.
That will be a hefty chunk of change.
Not looking forward to February's expenses!

Yes - I agree, but you may also be able to get away with just purchasing the one. Since you are a Pathfinder Maps subscriber, you can simply print out one side from the PDF version that you get for free. I sometimes tape them over other maps for convenient play-ability.

Also remember that you will also be receiving the Armada map pack in January and may be able to piece together the upper deck of the ship with that set, freeing up the second side of this flip map so use can use the interior deck side.


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Garrett Guillotte wrote:
Product description wrote:

Bricks containing 8 boosters (32 figures total)

Cases containing 3 bricks (128 figures total)
The math seems off here. Should it be 4 bricks to a case like the other sets, or 96 figures to a case for three 32-figure bricks? Or something else?

I believe that this was a typo and should really read "4 bricks" instead of "3 bricks". If you look at all other previous Battle Case releases, they are always 4 bricks to a case. Being the weekend, it will be more than likely somebody will correct this mistake early next week when they return to work.


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Just an FYI to all those who are interested but have not purchased this one yet: As of November 23rd 2015 there were less than 100 of these items in inventory (but over 25 units left). I have not seen or heard Paizo divulge how many were originally produced and from what I have read in the posts, they have traditionally kept the quantities on this product quite confidential. I was therefore surprised to see it listed in their store blog post at "http://paizo.com/store/blog/v5748dyo5li9e?Where-Did-You-Go-I-Need-to-Know" under the "Fewer than 100 Left" category. I feel fortunate that I made it in time to pick up this piece of history.

I would be curious to know how many of these were made in total (purely out of curiosity and also from a collector's standpoint), so Paizo if you ever changes your policy regarding disclosing the quantity produced, please keep me in mind!