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Yeah I think I will be going plant master after all. Too bad the plant master animal focuses are really bad.


I do agree after playing the build that it is very strong but there are definite weaknesses. Mainly my will save(I have been dominated and almost killed one of my co PCs).
I don't have pounce so I cant just charge in and kill someone in the first round, it always takes a couple rounds or more if the enemy is well prepared or a very strong boss.
A lot of the time if I don't get to prepare before a fight the first couple turns are spent drinking potion of fly/shifting in to fox form then moving into position(Although the action economy could be made better with swift kitsune shapechanger).

I did decide to go fighter because I really wanted as many feats as I could because they are what makes the build fun to play(along with Mauser).

So maybe if we can find out a not as strong version of the build(But still fun), it would be more approachable.


I am making a Hunter build for PFS that uses all the AOO teamwork feats and even though it is tempting to just go T-Rex, I can't deny those two archetypes fascinate me. Riding a Giant mantis or a Puffball(!!) into combat sounds pretty damn amazing. The problem is they are just straight up worse than the normal animal companions. Vermin are mindless and even if that makes them immune to mind affecting it means that you get no skills/feats. And the plant companions stats are just so much worse than the dinosaur ones. They even only have two magic item slots. BUT... Imagine riding a Puffball into combat!


Yeah, but do I have arms as a fox? And is a creature adjacent to me if he is inside my square?


I am not using the ring. I am using Fox Shape. The original build was never legal in the first place.


I have come to the conclusion that snake style is not good for this build unless you have some way to to get reach on your natural attack.
The interaction is really weird.
The enemy will five foot step out of my attack range so I hit him with an attack from mouser swashbuckler - He then hits me with an attack and since I am out of reach I can't use snake style/fang - I do However use the mouser ability to get back into his square as an immediate action - Then the enemy might hit me again and then I can't usesnake style since I already burned my immediate action to get back into his square(although I guess I still get the first AoO from snake fang). I think I might have to just be patient and wait for monkey style at 11. Not sure what feats I should be getting instead.


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LuniasM wrote:
I've tried to teach many new players Pathfinder and it's a pretty daunting prospect in most cases, to the point that I teach my current group rules as they come up rather than trying to get them to learn everything. I'm all for a system that's easier to teach, pick up, and play.

What? Teaching people the game as the rules come up is literally the best way to teach it. Learn by playing


David knott 242 wrote:

One option to consider would be the Racial Heritage (Halfling) feat. That feat would give you access to the favored class bonus for Halflings, which lets you add +1/3 per Medium level to your Séance Boon (but not share that bonus with others).

The Gillman favored class bonus is even better, but as I recall PFS banned that option.

What is the Gillman favored class bonus? I can't find it anywhere.


Rosc said wrote:
- Ifrit elemental Shifter with Dervish Dance could be fun. Must investigate.

Thematically that sounds amazing.

On another note someone needs to TLDR these comments for me...


I would like to throw you a curve-bullet and recommend a (double)sling build!

Halfling mutagenic warrior fighter

vl1 Point blank, precise
lvl2 weapon focus(double sling)
lvl3 slipslinger style
lvl4 two weapon fighting
lvl5 Advanced weapon training(Trained Throw)
lvl6 improoved two weapon fighting
lvl7 deadly aim
lvl8 Rapid shot
lvl9 Clustered shots AWT: focused weapon
Lvl10:Weapon Specialization
lvl11:Improved precise shot

I wonder how much damage it would do compared to the other classic archer builds, assuming you have the correct gear like stat belts, gloves of dueling and a high enough magic weapon.


I know it's not a part of your vision for the build but UC rogue/urban aberrant bloodrager is a really amazing combination even if this character won't be like it maybe someone else will try it.


How do pauldrons of the bull interact with shield slam? Since the slam uses the same roll as the attack.


I wonder what a halfling slinger fighter wielding a double sling could do at lvl 12.
Something like:

Halfling mutagenic warrior fighter

vl1 Point blank, precise
lvl2 weapon focus(double sling)
lvl3 slipslinger style
lvl4 two weapon fighting
lvl5 Advanced weapon training(Trained Throw)
lvl6 improoved two weapon fighting
lvl7 deadly aim
lvl8 Rapid shot
lvl9 Clustered shots AWT: focused weapon
Lvl10:Weapon Specialization
lvl11:Improved precise shot
lvl12:??


Be a Halfling. Take Slipslinger style with the warslinger alternate halfling trait and use the double sling! Will probably need to be a fighter for all the feats. Additional bonus if you get the trained throw advanced weapon training since the sling is in the fighter thrown weapon group.

Here is what it might look like.

Mutagenic warrior fighter

Stats: 20 point buy STR: 14 DEX: 18 CON: 12 INT: 12 WIS: 10 CHA: 9

lvl1 Point blank, precise
lvl2 weapon focus(double sling)
lvl3 slipslinger style
lvl4 two weapon fighting
lvl5 Advanced weapon training(Trained Throw)
lvl6 improoved two weapon fighting
lvl7 deadly aim
lvl8 Rapid shot
lvl9 Clustered shots AWT: focused weapon

I like mutagenic warrior since you eventually get flight and you even solve the fact of your low damage die with AWT: Focused weapon.


Aren't you going to be transmuting yourself to some sort of animal anyways? I would try to build on that rather than using your base form with natural attacks.


I always imagined the archetype dex based since you are using a one handed slashing weapon to deal damage with spring attack. Although I guess it wouldn't have to be. Swash buckler dip would fix a lot of problems. Freeing up a feat or two and allowing me to parry/riposte if i was stuck in melee.


How would you guys build a dex based Qadiran Horselord?


Oh my electric eel style sounds so fun to use. I must try it! Should you just go full on grappling with the build? Can I even use medusas wrath while grappling?


Is there any way to modify the monk of the empty hand to work with the unchained monk?


How does one make the most of the lightning domain? Theologian lightning cleric?


Dune drifter cavalier wielding a gun?


The Virtuous bravo is not pfs legal sadly. And really you don't need swashbuckler levels when playing the virtuous bravo.


Damn. Scarred monk. Would it be actually possible to adapt it for the Umonk?


BUT, how do I make the best unchained grappler?


Secret Wizard wrote:
Woodoodoo wrote:
Who is the ultimate unchained monk grappler? How can I rival the tetori monk.
Ya can't.

Aww


Who is the ultimate unchained monk grappler? How can I rival the tetori monk.


Is the tetori still the ultimate grappler? I haven't looked into grappling lately.


I can't wait to play my Dandy ranger in hells rebels. How high a diplomacy score do you think a Dandy could get?


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I still think the phantom thief is the ultimate skill monkey. Getting so many skill unlocks and getting them early is pretty amazing. Also getting half your level on so many skills.


Phantom thief rogue. Can diplomacy his way out of combat almost every time.


The book is not an improvised weapon.


He was probably talking about the living grimoire inquisitor archetype that came out a while ago. Alas the archetype is pretty weak.


Sniper rogue or vigilante? I mention rogue only because they can full attack while sniping at lvl 10


Specifically for the nagaji build I just though it would be funny. Have your snake grapple him and then you coup de grace


A build focusing on coup de grace using that nagaji cavalier archetype from blood of the beast that gets to ride a snake?


I just noticed that the shield trained trait makes shields count as simple weapons. So I had the idea to make a shield slam investigator with the inspired magic weapon quality.
I'm a huge fan of the dandy ranger archetype I don't have a specific build idea for it because it doesn't change the ranger much mechanically but I definitely want something unique and different than the normal cookie cutter ranger builds.


I am currently playing a halfling fighter in PFS that dual wields the double sling. It's pretty amazing.


If I do go counterfeit mage wouldn't it be a good idea to just take some other class after either lvl 4 or 6?


Yeah, I think I was mostly thinking being a non magic user or at least not a full caster(because what is the point of using a wand then).
And the counterfeit mage sounds pretty cool. Maybe I can get some caster to get craft wand or something. Not sure if I'll be able to convince my GM to let me take Staff like wand haha.


So like the title said I am imagining a wild west style "Wand Slinger" what would be the best way to accomplish this? Counterfeit mage? Any ideas?

>Edit< Upon further investigation it would probably be the magus or wizard who are the only ones that can use their own stats for wands like the scrollmaster wizard archetype.


Zoomba what does your swash/medium build look like? Just one handed stuff+champion?


I would personally take rapid shot earlier. Deadly aim as well. Advanced weapon training: Trained throw is amazing as well since the sling counts as a thrown weapon. The sling fighter if definitely only of the stronger ranged characters out there. You could also get slipslinger style and use the double sling for TWF.


The fighter is a really strong and viable thrown weapon character.


I can't find the plagued or deep one curses anywhere. Seems they are not up on any website yet.


Oh wait I just realized I could just VMC oracle for sidestep.


Then reliable is your only choice.


Yes, most of the time your misfire is 2-3.


Be a Dwarf Gunslinger! Their FCB is amazing!


Yeah, might do. I think I should just stick to single class either swashbuckler or ranger. The dandy ranger archetype is just so cool. I've been looking into what ranger builds I could make and the shield bash one sounds by far the most interesting I've done the ranged/TWF/reach shtick so many times and I feel like making something fresh. Maybe some of the deity ranger combat styles.


Yeahm, so my gm won't allow desna's shooting star so that's out of the window. Anyone have a suggestion for cool ranger builds besides a shield build?

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