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Rynjin wrote:
This page, basically.

Welp, there went half my morning.


I just treat bandoliers as a poor-man's handy haversack: still a move action to retrieve from, but no AoO.


MapTool is free and fairly versatile. Highly suggest watching the tutorials first.


Say "Let's do this" nice and loud, and begin. Don't wait for a lull; oftentimes they're looking for a signal from you, as the Master of Games.


I was under the impression that criticals double (or triple, etc.) damage dice and bonuses, not just "damage," ie you roll your damage x amount of times, rather than multiply.


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Houses? It's the Gazebos that you really need to keep an eye on.


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Zaister wrote:
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

Some folks are asking that a specific aesthetic be acknowledged, an aesthetic that when you think about it goes all the way back to like Ancient Greece.

It's not really my cup of tea, but if folks want handsome skinny dudes I'm not going to hold it against them.

It's not the aesthetics that has me rolling my eyes, it's the otaku terminology.

What word do you use to describe sexy young men?

We use ridiculous words in this hobby all the time, Cheliax, Illithid, BAB, Vancian Spellcasting. It's shorthand for:

Evil Empire of Devil Worshippers
Squid-headed monsters,
Base Attack bonus,
A game mechanic to represent magic which is modelled on the fiction of the writer Jack Vance.

I haven't watched Anime in years, I hear some of it is good and some of it is bad. But when we take part in a hobby that is basically playing pretend with dice, I don't think it's right to be dismissive or authoritarian of other people's language use.

Does this mean I can use the word "toon" when talking about my character? :D

*ducks*


9mm wrote:
Deadmanwalking wrote:
9mm wrote:

soo still broken while the brawler will probably still gets improved bull rush 1/day at level 16.

that's class A balancing there Piazo!

This is an excellent example of the problem in tone I mentioned earlier.

More like this is just another example in a loooong list of Paizo not listening to feedback since the alpha playtests.

in fact to address your point about tone; given the track record Paizo has had, the assumption to assume to the worst when it comes to casters is WELL JUSTIFIED.

[citation needed]


Andrew R wrote:
Zhayne wrote:
Tcho Tcho wrote:
1, Resenting authority doesn't seem lawful to me.
Doesn't matter if you resent it, only if you obey it. Alignment is about actions, not emotions/feelings.
Wrong, motive counts. I can set up orphanages all day long and still be LE because i have very bad plans for them in the future even if i am taking very good care of them for years first

And I would name you LE only if you carried out those plans, or were committing other LE acts on the side.


Take a look at Rite Publishing's Kaidan setting.


Just a quick question, but correlated...how many GMs run an AP for 4 non-optimized, 15 point buy characters?


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A pointed reaction is fine, so long as the creator isn't accused of some silly, sinister-sounding motive. Just because you (general) can't imagine any other reason for the trend doesn't make it true.


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What irks me is that the phrase is so loaded. Saying "Paizo hates X" or even asking "Does Paizo hate X?" is similar to media outlet headlines that use the exact same annoying tactic; frex, reporting "Does the President hate Christmas?" when the White House chooses a card that says "Happy Holidays."


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The smitter wrote:
I second this. I think everything they do is pretty good and what I don't like I change in my game. I don't play pathfinder Society but I get that the rules need to be different. theres no reason to have all the thread hate.

Exactly! I get that some people like to play by the exact rules, and that some people must play by the exact rules, ie PFS, but that's no reason to claim that Paizo "hates" something just because they "nerf" something you like.

I like to believe that every rule change that Paizo enacts is done with balance and fun in mind, not because of some arbitrary dislike of this class or that feat. Is this belief 100% true? Likely not, but it's close enough that I see no reason to go off the rails when something changes for what I may perceive as the worse.


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ElyasRavenwood wrote:

Wasn't Manimal a TV show in the 80's? I remember liking that show.

Good memory! Here's the Wikipedia entry for anyone interested: Manimal.


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So stop makin' 'em.

Cuz it's rude.

And hurts real peoples' feelings.


Feral wrote:
Was there another revision somewhere?

If you look in the brawler-specific playtest thread, near the end SKR lists some features/changes he was considering, all of them good.


One thing I don't get is the fear that one word (usually one disliked) will replace any other word.

For example, let's take a rather common word: dog. There are a variety of different words one could use in place of the word "dog," including, but not limited to: pooch, hound, mutt, mongrel, puppy, pup, canine, etc. And yet, not one of these words has replaced any of the other words; rather, as some words fall out of popularity, they simply are used less. Correlated to, but not caused by the introduction of new words.

So to fear that some MMO players—as they seem to hold the most blame for the introduction of the word "toon" as a synonym for "character"—are inadvertently or purposefully trying to replace an already existing (and well-used) vocabulary seems imperceptive: such an event simply won't take place.


Hey, bbt, if I came up to a group and asked them if they could help me flesh out a concept for my latest "toon," then proceeded to make it clear that I was talking about a PC, and a member of that group said, "Gee, I was going to help you until you used the term 'toon,'" how should I interpret their reaction?


Just to show I'm not a "love 'em and leave 'em" sort of OP, I throw in my two cents...

I'm with those above who have said that language has a job: communication. As long as that result is achieved—I say "toon" and you understand I mean "character in an RPG setting"—then everything is copacetic.
Other MMO terms—Tank, healer, DPS, etc.—are also all right with me; Aranna said it best, above: "They are also the perfect way to describe roles in a RPG." That includes "mob" for monster.

However, I can certainly see how that kind of language could detract from a game, and, as with every set of jargon, it has a time and place. I certainly wouldn't use the term "mob" while reading the descriptive text to my players; that would be silly.

Murderhobo is a weird one. I get that the majority of people use it tongue-in-cheek; I certainly do. And yet, while there haven't been a great many such threads, I have seen people use it semi-seriously as a replacement for PC, particularly on build threads. Now, those threads tend to be divorced from the surrounding roleplay—and that's totally fine—but they are also actual advice threads, talking about actual mechanics. In such a context, "murderhobo" (in the few cases it is used) becomes an acceptable replacement for "PC."
This discussion has been had before; I recall a particularly heated thread about the prevalence of the term and its implications from a year or so ago.


On just men vs women...

Men have (the arbitrarily made up number of) 2.0 "privilege points" (pay, safety, opportunity) in our society.

Women have fewer; let's call it 1.8 points.

Every time we fix a valid discrimination (which, fixing it is a good thing) against men, but not women, that gap widens.

Before we start fixing discrimination for everyone, let's level the playing field, first. That means that, while discrimination against men is still a real problem, discrimination against women is a bigger problem.

Nobody should be the victim of violence, obviously, and everyone has the same human rights...but let's make sure everyone has the same freedom to exercise those rights. Widening the privilege gap is not how we do this.

Credit to Jeff Dee (of DnD fame) for this argument.


So a lot the responses thus far seem to be saying that if "toon" were heard in a face-to-face game, it would be laughable to some, and a warning sign to others. I would agree; like most other groups, I think, my group refers to their PCs by name or race or class, not as "my character," or "my PC."

But here, on the internet? I really don't see the problem with it, beyond one of possibly unfamiliar terminology. Think about it—the only difference between a PC and a "toon" (so long as we aren't referring to the game, Toon, is that one is computer animated, the other is not. MMORPGs are still RPGs, after all; the player still levels up, makes ability choices, makes appearance and RP choices, etc.


That's a point I can get behind, bbt.

But why can't "toon" be part of the appropriate terminology? Why "murderhobo," but not "toon"?


If I used the term "Toon" rather than PC, what would you say? What arguments would you use for or against it?

Thus far, one of the more convincing arguments I've heard is that using lingo from a different type of game (in this case, MMOs) could cause confusion; however, this particular word doesn't seem all that egregious—most people, even having not played an MMO, could pick up from the surrounding context that "Toon"=PC.

Thoughts?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Manimal wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Manimal wrote:
If you want to call your PC a toon, go right ahead. Just be prepared to catch some flak from elitists.
It's not an "elitist" thing. Don't be a jerk.

I apologize if you inferred that I implied that you or anyone on this thread is an elitist.

What, exactly, is badwrongfun with calling your PC a toon?

I am putting together a Special Sweeper starter with good Special/Speed IVs, and looking for advice on the common types to round out my moveset, to maximize type advantage. I plan to Supertrain all EVs in SA and Sp, with leftovers in HP. I will likely LifeOrb and seek to power past walls.

I was thinking I would put forth this on a weather team, but current changes cut effect off earlier now.

Ahhhh...then it's a problem with terminology. You don't want the lingo from one game to invade the other, else there might be confusion.

I wasn't confused by the term "toon." I could see how some would be, those who don't or haven't played WoW.

On the other hand, I like to think that most people would be able to figure out that "toon" meant PC; the context certainly supports that interpretation.

But, you're right. Using that one word certainly is a slippery slope...

Edit: I'll tell you what; rather than further derail the OP, I'll just make a new thread...


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Manimal wrote:
If you want to call your PC a toon, go right ahead. Just be prepared to catch some flak from elitists.
It's not an "elitist" thing. Don't be a jerk.

I apologize if you inferred that I implied that you or anyone on this thread is an elitist.

What, exactly, is badwrongfun with calling your PC a toon?


JJ answered it in a thread asking for Dev opinion about this very subject last week.


If you want to call your PC a toon, go right ahead. Just be prepared to catch some flak from elitists.


Two issues, off the bat:

1. Golarion is much closer to Renaissance than Medieval.

2. Even in Medieval times, it was common for people to live past 60. High infant mortality brings the average lifespan nearer to 30. This means that if you survived infancy, you had a good chance of living to at least middle age.


I use Aid Another: Thread Necro!


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When you start posting questions like these in obviously the incorrect fora, it starts to look like you're trying to get around other people's filters.

Given that there are dozens of other threads with the same message and tone...

...one begins to suspect flamebait.


You have Weapon Focus (longsword) listed twice.


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Run.

Fast.


I hate to be a Negative Nancy on this thread, as I am also a pet/animal lover, but...
Be careful sharing your pets' names on a public forum, as they often comprise security questions and passwords. If you do share, make sure it can't compromise you.


But this raises an interesting conundrum...if these shops make so little profit, how, then, can they afford to buy all your unwanted magic gear, even at half price?

"Sure, I'd like to buy that magic armor from you, adventurer! I currently have 2000 gold in the coffers, so that's my best offer."


Anyone else want to take a shot at this one?


Shameless self-promotion buuuuuump.

Only one I'll do.

Promise.


Nefreet wrote:

To be honest, the Rogue is a somewhat underpowered class already (though I love mine, don't get me wrong). To require them to do anything more than just "I rolled 36 for my Disable Device" would make it even tougher to play one.

Asking them to have ranks in Spellcraft, and the ability to cast Detect Magic, is a little rough.

Hopefully the player can come up with some fun ways to disarm magical traps, and the GM can come up with some fun challenges, and everyone can enjoy the game together.

But all you really need is a good die roll.

Oh definitely!

I wouldn't want to take anything away from the rogue, just find out if there's any more RaW for spell traps that I might have missed. The rules are just really...bare.


On a related note, a friend of mine and I made a flowchart for perceiving traps of all kinds.
Posted in the homebrew forum here.


Ashram wrote:
You use your thieves tools to scrape away at the rune that keeps the trap in place. :P

I like that! I was thinking something similar, like a scrap of paper or part of a scroll.


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Hey gaiz!
While doing research for this related thread, I and a friend of mine made a flowchart for perceiving traps, detect magic included.
Tell me what you think!

Flowchart


See, that's what I discovered, as well. This would imply that there's something that is perceivable in spell traps, and something that you can disable. Yet there are no rules that I can find that tell me what those things are.


So, here I am GMing RoW, and we come across a spell trap:

Snows of Summer spoiler:
Specifically, the sound burst spell trap in the snowman at the Icy Crossing

This got me wondering: if someone were to perceive a spell trap (which anyone can) how would they know the trigger?
How would they know the mechanism?
If they exceed the DC by 5, how would they know the outcome?

As regards Trapfinding and Disable Device, how does a Rogue disable a spell trap?


Ipslore the Red wrote:
The fora are not representative of real life, and you seem to think four bad threads are an epidemic. No one makes a thread to say that their party is doing just fine. They don't bother to make a thread unless they have some sort of problem, and statistically, half of those threads are guaranteed to have been made by people of below-average intelligence who don't understand what is and is not a problem.

You're 100% wrong about the way statistics work. And rude.

Edit: Damn! Ninja'd by an edit! :P


"James Jacobs' answers to rules questions are often incorrect" is a mighty powerful claim. Got something to back that up?


Perhaps I was being a tad hasty in my post above when I said "entitled." If I came off as jerkish, I apologize.
However, I don't think you're doing yourself any favors when you start chiding the dev team. It's one thing to raise concerns, it's another to sound accusatory.

Edit: I do agree that, as written, the ability is borked. So I'm FAQing the questions about range and duration, as they're the most important questions. The other ones seen more like corner-case questions, and are less likely to be answered in errata.


I'm a little confused on what you're trying to accomplish here. Are you trying to get Paizo to errataon the spot with an FAQ, explain why the haven't errata'd, or both?
Because I really don't see them doing either in response to the OP and follow up. The OP is far too complicated for an FAQ candidate (as has been pointed out in the locked thread), and the demands for an explanation come off as somewhat entitled.
They got the message with the first thread, I'm sure. They'll get to it when they get to it; asking them again (and again) is just impatient.


Well, Paizo would disagree with you on the "unnecessary" bit, else why limit themselves and others?
Why do you think the limitation is unnecessary?


Could be cool...but watch out she doesn't become a "Jerk Sue." Yes, there's a TV Tropes entry for it, but I'm on my phone and too lazy to link it.


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