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Gods... i've been reading those FAQs this afternoon; and i've been reading about 2 hours, between the Core FAQs, the Ultimate Magic FAQ and the Advanced Player's Guide... i've been reading some forums, i've been watching things in pfsrd, and in d20srd.org...
How could i miss THAT!!?? It's clear, completely clear, in front of me!!

Thank you, very much u_u i should have found that. ANd Thank you too for the explanation about how to use the skill; once known that it can be bypassed with a +5, i'm sure i won't have any problems with that.

Well... that's all said; asked and answered. THank you!! : )

Hello;
I need a bit of help; this is a simple question, but i have doubts about if it has been answered anytime or not:

I am lvl 3 and i've got CRAFT WONDROUS ITEMS; i've got Spellcraft 8 and i want to create an Ioun stone. THe item has those requirements (apart from gold):

Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, creator must be 12th level;

The question is... Can i increase in a bare +5 the Spellcraft check to avoid the "12th lvl" requirement? Or do i need to wait until lvl 12, not matter how much Spellcraft (and gold) can have...?

Ey, first of all thank you for all the responses; i've got no time just now (today i'm gonna be Master until 21.00 and later i will be a player in Council of Thieves the rest of the night), so i've only read and i only want to thank for your ideas, opinions... I will explain and reply, presumably, tomorrow (that i'll have some time to read carefully averything again).
Second of all... i'm very sorry for my english; i'm from Spain and i try to write the better i can; so, if i see i haven't explained anything correctly, i will try to explain it again...
So, i beg for your patience ^^U bacause i've read many interesting things in your posts, but actually i cannot answert to them. Tomorrow i will... that's what i expect ^^U
But thank you very much!!! I really appreciate everything! Wish me luck for a funny game!

BTW,i'm playing since 1994; I've played AD&D, D&D 3rd, D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder 1st; i like to roll the stats and my barbarian just had two 18's; one in strenght (+2 human) and the other one in dextrity... yes, dextrity 18+2 from a belt, 20... this is why he has 6 aoo's

Well; actually i'm GMing the Carrion Crown AP. I've got a player with a Human Barbarian that recently has reached lvl 12 and he has chosen this rage power:

Come and Get Me (Ex): While raging, as a free action the barbarian may leave herself open to attack while preparing devastating counterattacks. Enemies gain a +4 bonus on attack and damage rolls against the barbarian until the beginning of her next turn, but every attack against the barbarian provokes an attack of opportunity from her, which is resolved prior to resolving each enemy attack. A barbarian must be at least 12th level to select this rage power.

He also have 2 feats related with my next questions:

Combat Reflexes (Combat)
You can make additional attacks of opportunity.
Benefit: You may make a number of additional attacks of opportunity per round equal to your Dexterity bonus. With this feat, you may also make attacks of opportunity while flat-footed.
Normal: A character without this feat can make only one attack of opportunity per round and can't make attacks of opportunity while flat-footed.
Special: The Combat Reflexes feat does not allow a rogue to use her opportunist ability more than once per round.

Pushing Assault (Combat)
A strike made with a two-handed weapon can push a similar sized opponent backward.
Prerequisites: Str 15, Power Attack, base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: When you hit a creature your size or smaller with a two-handed weapon attack modified by the Power Attack feat, you can choose to push the target 5 feet directly away from you instead of dealing the extra damage from Power Attack. If you score a critical hit, you can instead push the target 10 feet directly away from you. This movement does not provoke attacks of opportunities, and the target must end this move in a safe space it can stand in. You choose which effect to apply after the attack roll has been made, but before the damage is rolled.

Well... He wants to do some things with those feats and the rage power:

1 - One of the things is use the Rage power; if an enemy starts near him, he attacks (and probably hits) the enemy and then he will push back the enemy... In this case, the enemy could use the 5' step and then... A) he continues his attack, because it was declared before? B) he must choose to do (if he can) a second attack, because the first one was out of reach and he lost it?...
- And, if the enemy tries to do another second attack, the barbarian will use the feat again, pushing the enemy away 5' and the enemy will loose the rest of the attacks, ever...?
- And, if the enemy has done the 5' step to reach the barbarian (because the barbarian in the last turn attacked him and then used the 5' step to walk away from the enemy), and then the barbarian uses rage power+feat.. the enemy loses all its turn?
Because you can choose if you do an action attack or a full action attack, but you can't choose between a 5' step and a movement; so, if you have declared (and used) a 5' step, you cannot use a movement action (i mean, to move).
What is more, if 6 enemies charge against him and he has got enough aoo's, they will loose their turn, after receive, each, an attack with a +4 to attack and damage...
I don't find it very fair. Then, from now on, the melee enemies are completely castrated from this point...?

And the second thing he says he wants to do:

2 - He wants to get ready with the rage power and the feat to sunder enemies' weapons when the enemies try to attack him:
- As far as he doesn't have the Improved sunder feat, he provokes an aoo when he tries to sunder them. But, if the enemies use their aoo to attack him, or to sunder him, they are doing another attack, so the Come and get me rage power gives the barbarian another aoo. And he wants to use this attack TO SUNDER... Then te result is that he sunders, Yes or Yes, and the enemies will end without their weapons. And there is no option.

Is really that way? I mean... As far as i see the results, i see that he is breaking part of the game. Am i wrong? Is there anything that i haven't considered?

Do you like Q Workshop Pathfinder dice? WHat do you think about them?

**I cannot edit**
Sorry if my previous post sounds too serious, or as if i were rebuking anything. This is out of my intention; I usually talk this way in my foreign language, but re-reading what i wrote i've felt a bit unconfortable, as i was complaining about something. And my intention is to know what to do, only ^^U I'm sorry, very much, if everything sounds too harsh.
Today i've been watching opinions about the feat in Paizo rules and talking with friends about different options. But it's a feat that offers a really wide interpretation. In the end, i concluded that it was intentional and this is what i wanted to ask. But i feel that i finnally did it in a very rude mode. Sorry, if so...

James, i don't find any official answer in forums about Leadership in 1st Ed.
This lack of explanations is intentional, isn't it?

(I don't ask about explanations, it's only that i don't want to continue reading threads and threads and more threads buried years ago if i'm not going to find any response).

1) Unspeakable Futures is my d20-based Post-Apocalyptic game that I've been tinkering with since 2000 or thereabouts. I've run several games and campaigns with it, but it's not my D&D homebrew; it's different. My D&D homebrew is set on the world of Baria, which is what Androffa turns into after over after many centuries of history.

You mean this Androffa?

In Carrion Crown, heroes can find a bottle of Port (Oporto in spanish); this is a wine, whose name comes from the capital city of Portugal. So we stopped (of course... xDDD) the game to discuss about another foods with "Earth" names... We have here a salad we call Ensaladilla Rusa (Russian Salad), that is a potato and mayonnaise saldad;in a search, i've found an article where American professor Dennis Whitehurst recommends using: Spanish potato salad. I don't know if you've eaten that sometime.
But... what could be the name of those meals?
I mean, Port can be named this way due to (i.e.) RIddleport. It could fit... But what about other themed meals? Spanish could be renamed to Chelaxian, or maybe Taldoran? Indian should be renamed to Vudran food? Which country could be the first maker of the baguettes?

Do you have any general pararelism between cultures to set some foods (and of course, "spirit" drinks) in certain countries?

Thanks for your reply!! :D
That's what we were doing (no attack roll; automatic), but i was unsure because sometimes, the ally had a enemy's meat wall between the ray and him. Oh! and

; i know you can give answer to rules;

I wanted to write that you can't give answers... Sorry!! xD

Oh! and the pertinent question...
In the Summoner's ability Summon Monster I (Sp), says that he can only use this ability when his eidolon is not summoned. And after that, we can read A summoner cannot have more than one summon monster or gate spell active in this way at one time. But it isn't wrote if you can call your Eidolon if you have a monster called this way. In case you can, the "calling" time is 1 minute (10 rounds), so it's not very useful and you should be lvl 11 if you want them to be together. Even so, I assume both abilities are reciprocal and you can't call the eidolon, same as you can't summon monsters (as the ability specifies).
The fact is that you can find, in internet, all kind of answers to this and i don't know if this is a case of "Cards Do What They Say/Cards Don’t Do What They Don’t Say" (Heh... Pathfinder ACG cameo xD) or if i've missed some point and it's clear how does it work (and i should clearly know how.)
Thanks :)

Hello! New here (and from Spain; sorry for my English), but full of gratefulness for your work, creating Pathfinder in first place, and for your answers here (i've read more or less the 40 first pages and some random others, including the lasts xD).
I'm not sure if you can answer to rules. So, if you can't... well; you'll write that you can't xD but let's try:
1st Edition; Sorcerers, skill class "Heavenly Fire (Sp)".
You can use it with evil creatures; a ranged touch attack that deals damage; ok.
But you can use it too with good creatures; and there are no rules about ranged touch vs allies.
A touch spell is automatic; you don't need to make an attack; but a ranged touch attack?
You have that Skill (heavenly fire) and a feat in the Advanced Player's Guide (Reach Spell-Metamagic) that approach this topic. And there aren't any rules about it.
Can you hit automatically with the Sorcerer skill to your friends? I suppose you need to do a ranged touch attack, but then... at what AC? 10? The touch AC of your friend? he wouldn't use Dex modifier to evade the ray. And the rest of the modifiers? Luck?? xD Circumstance? alchemical? inherent? morale? racial? insight? dodge? deflection? competence?
If he wants to be actively hit, shouldn't the Dex modifier be -5?
Sorry for this weird question; i find really difficult to play here, in my town and, after 3 years without any game, i finally convinced my friends this last july and it's the very first time we play Pathfinder- - They didn't want to, until now... and surprisingly, after 3 years of NOTHING, they agreed and i started my very 1st Adventure Path as Master. So, i am learning and finding a lot of things and minor details... But i haven't found any response to that question in any place since july... So, today (now it's 2.35am here) i've decided to try with You (and You is in capital, because i feel that it's a real honor to write youthis way...). I don't know if you can answer this; i know you can give answer to rules; but Pathfinder is in 2nd Ed, this question doesn't have an official answer and at least, i would appreciate your "house rule" if you cannot give an official answer.
Thanks again... it's an honor to write here... ^^U
(And again, sorry for my english ^^U).

Sorry if i didn't explain correctly; mi english is bad as hell xD
I know that difference, yes; than you for the search :). What i tried to explain is that you can drop prone if you want, in your turn. Yes. My previous words gave tat wrong impression; sorry. My bad. I wanted to explain that you can, i.e. use your bow, shot against a ranged enemy and then drop prone as a free action; if an enemy is near you (maybe, because he is invisible and you didn't know), my AC changes. The AC is not constant and you can change it. Or at least, that's how i understand the things and i don't know about any official answer talking about fix armor (i say: i don't know; but it can exists).
Anyways, those things we are talking about are about some penalties we consider to apply or not to apply. But the initial goal i was looking for with this thread was to ask about any official writing giving details about this action. And I suppose this doesn't exist... : )
The good part is that i've received a lot of feedback and i really appreciate this (and i like you give me the option to discuss about to see things in different ways); so, apart from that, thank you for your response. :)

Okay; i have an open thread about this:
Rules about Ranged touch spells/attacks in friends, and not enemies.
Everybody is giving their ideas/opinions, but there is nothing explained about this in any source. So, there are no real/oficial rules about a game mechanic that exists (and more with the Metamagic feat: Reach Spell, from the Advances Player's Guide).

You are comparing involuntary conditions with a voluntary act.

They aren't the same thing.

If you want to voluntarily change your AC, the change can be done only during your turn.

Drop rpone is not involuntary; you can do it whenever you want as a free action.

As already said, if you want to make yourself helpless in the middle of combat, be my guest. I hope to be on the other side and profit from it. You can't make yourself helpless only against someone. When you drop your defense, you drop it. In Pathfinder combat is turn-based, so, if you want to be helpless when your friend act, you need to go helpless during your turn and stay so until your turn comes again.

Out of combat, that isn't a problem, during combat, it is.

Sorry if i don't see things like you see. If you, in your turn, choose to use your AC, let's say, "at full", using all the bonuses, but an enemy paralyzes you, you loose everything. If later, a friend of you tries to use a spell on you, you have no bonus; the AC has changed. And if he removes your paralysis, your AC changes again. If you fall below 0 hp, you are inmediately unconscious and if anyone heals you and raises your hit points above 0, it makes you fully functional again.If you want to drop prone, as a free action, after move for a threatened area and after receive some AOOs, for any reason, you change the modifiers you have vs different attacks.

It doesn't automatically hit, and all modifiers apply.

Yep. I said "Everything would be easier if,"; i dodn't said it were the case. xD

If I fire an arrow at a stationary bulls-eye target butt, I still have to make an attack roll.

The bulls-eye has an armor too. Base AC 10 + Dex 0 (mod.-5); for a total of AC5, applying modifiers (range and size modifier, i.e.). In this case it's easy...

Ranged attacks are way more limited when making "automatic" hits.

Yes; they are in fact. It's clear in the cases you used as an example; but in the Helpless defenders explanation (a bit earlier of the part you pasted), we can read this:

A helpless character takes a –4 penalty to AC against melee attacks. In addition, a helpless character is treated as having a Dexterity of 0, giving him a –5 penalty to AC against both melee and ranged attacks (for a total of –9 against melee and –5 against ranged).

The Dex Modifier of -5 is not one of those differences that make ranged attacks more limited.

I know it's not the same. And that's why i'm asking... which modifiers should be applied in such "attacks"?
And that's why I said "yes, but it would be much easier if...".

You won't find anything in the rules as the problem here doesn't lie with the rules in general but with Heavenly Fire in particular when it qualifies its ray as a ranged touch attack when it is directed towards an ally. It shouldn't be an attack.

As such, my houserule would be on poorly written Heavenly Fire but not on the general rules of what a ranged touch attack is.

I knos it's heavenly i particular, in standard rules (but hence, they should explain everything in Heavenly Fire). So yes; it's normal it's not explained in Core Rulebook; but since we have Advance Player's Guide with this feat:

Reach Spell (Metamagic)
Your spells go farther than normal.

Benefit: You can alter a spell with a range of touch, close, or medium to increase its range to a higher range category, using the following order: touch, close, medium, and long. A reach spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level for each increase in range category. For example, a spell with a range of touch increased to long range uses up a spell slot three levels higher. Spells modified by this feat that require melee touch attacks instead require ranged touch attacks.

Spells that do not have a range of touch, close, or medium do not benefit from this feat.

It would be a good idea to add any explanation, in internet, in the APG, in the feat... Well... anywhere. But something.

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About the rest; I am with Azothath in the part he says it's not a great, but only a helpful ability. But i actually have a Celestial sorceress in Harrowstone and asking a lot of things. And this is the only one that cannot be fairly explained using manuals/official rules.

If you don't use house rules, it feels obvious you must declare a ranged touch attack, use X modifiers and roll with your attack bonus; it's not considered an attack that deals damage, so it doesn't multiply the roll with a crit, but it's affected by proximity of enemies. Ok.
About Dextrity, how much to apply, i don't see as much as a houserule, but as a matter of diverse opinions.

In this case, I tend to put AC10 base + Modifier negative of Dex (-5, i mean): everybody is aware of everything in a combat; if you want to be more fussy, you can ask for a Perception roll to be aware of the ray. I consider that unnecessary.
The problem comes with the bonus... Because i consider logical (i mean, i'm talking about myself; i know my words are not canon xDDD) to add deflection bonuses, but not dodge. But, what happens with... alchemical bonus? Enhacement? Morale? Luck? Sacred? And with Circumstance bonus? (Well, it will depend from the circumstances... ahem... xDDDD).

There it's when everybody has its own opinion. And it's not a house rule. It's simply that there is no explanation about what to do with those bonuses when a friend choose you as a target. Because they wrote that "you hit automatically" only thinking in melee situations and didn't think about the ranged option. So, everything depends of the perception of the many different bonuses and how should be applied. The target of the ability is not flat footed; he is not unaware; he is aware of everything he can perceive in the combat ground. So, all the rules for that concrete situation (awareness) are out of this theme. But he wants to be "touched", even if he isn't near you.

Everything would be easier if, in Paizo had declared "it automatically hits too", or at least they they should explain which modifiers should be applyied and which ones don't.

THanks for the replies; i understood the things like Diego Rossi at first, but if it were the case, we shouldn't need to "houserule" to complete any action.
So, if it were that way, why do we need that? Shouldn't we consider, i.e., that the deflection bonus from a ring of protection still would avoid the "attack"?
So, we should play as a normal ranged touch attack? a ranged touch attack ignoring dextrity, a ranged touch attack with an effective Dex of 0, because your friend's gonna try to receive the spell? Considering that a helpless defender counts as Dex 0, it should be the same if he actively tries to get hit... But.. there is not an official rule, an official explanation, nor a FAQ... and i haven't found any about thiss in the forums...

Hi;
first of all, sorry for my english ^^U I will try to explain the better I can. And sorry, too, if you think (when you read this thread) this is a basic question, or that it's clear to understand and answer; but i haven't found in any place (pages nor books) a real and clean answer to my doubt. My question has been generated due to a celestial Sorcerer; her first bloodline power is:

Heavenly Fire (Sp): Starting at 1st level, you can unleash a ray of heavenly fire as a standard action, targeting any foe within 30 feet as a ranged touch attack. Against evil creatures, this ray deals 1d4 points of damage + 1 for every two sorcerer levels you possess. This damage is divine and not subject to energy resistance or immunity. This ray heals good creatures of 1d4 points of damage + 1 for every two sorcerer levels you possess. A good creature cannot benefit from your heavenly fire more than once per day. Neutral creatures are neither harmed nor healed by this effect. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier.

I've read (i don't remember where, to be honest xD) you can target friends and not only foes, that it was a typo. So, starting from that base, i went to Touch spells and Ranged touch spells, to determine how should it work... And here start the problem.
The Touch spells and Ranged touch spells are explained this way:

Touch Spells in Combat: Many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll.

Touch Attacks: Touching an opponent with a touch spell is considered to be an armed attack and therefore does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The act of casting a spell, however, does provoke an attack of opportunity. Touch attacks come in two types: melee touch attacks and ranged touch attacks. You can score critical hits with either type of attack as long as the spell deals damage. Your opponent's AC against a touch attack does not include any armor bonus, shield bonus, or natural armor bonus. His size modifier, Dexterity modifier, and deflection bonus (if any) all apply normally.

Holding the Charge: If you don't discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren't considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.

Ranged Touch Spells in Combat: Some spells allow you to make a ranged touch attack as part of the casting of the spell. These attacks are made as part of the spell and do not require a separate action. Ranged touch attacks provoke an attack of opportunity, even if the spell that causes the attacks was cast defensively. Unless otherwise noted, ranged touch attacks cannot be held until a later turn.

As we can see, there are two main explanations in bold and, two minor explanation of the first main one, both in italic.
So, I assume that, taking this into account, the description given in the first main explanation, in bold (Touch Spells in Combat) only refers to itself and its two minor ones in italic.
Then, the second main explanation in bold (Ranged Touch Spells in Combat) has its own rules, explained right there, in its explanation.

But Ranged Touch Spells in Combat doesn't give any factible explanation about if you can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, or not. There is no explanation for them.

Then, if the sorcerer wants to use the Heavenly Fire (Sp) in an injured friend, can she actually touch her friend, if it's in range automatically? Or must the sorcerer do an attack roll Vs its friend AC? And what Armor Class should be in that case? I find it really messy...

SO, that's the question: in the rules doesn't clarify nothing about Ranged touch spells Vs friends, at least directly, what should i do? is there any FAQ answering that? Why isn't that point clarified, given that it has been inherited from 3.5 (2003?)?

As i said at first, maybe i don't see something basic; maybe i'm missing a simple rule that clarifies that. But, in first instance, the only explanation about friends (you can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself) has been written only in the first paragraph in bold; not in the second (the one that concerns to us).

Haides:

Dragon Magazine #93 (the January 1985 issue) included a comprehensive official pronunciation guide, written by none other than Frank Mentzer. According to that guide, "cambion" is pronounced with an emphasis on the first syllable.

It's a real word (beyond roleplaying, I mean). The emphasis is on the first syllable.

/ˈkæmbiən/

Great! Thank you, very much!! Both replies are helpful and answer perfectly the question. Now, there is no longer any doubt. :)

Well.. thank you! Thanks to you all ^^ Here in Spain, CAMbion sounds a little worst than CAMBION, due to another word, cambio (change in spanish), could be (bad) written in superlative as cambión (great change; but that word doesn't exist! xD); so, let's say... inherently, our mind tends to imgine the word with the strong accent in the -ON syllable.
Thus, thank you; it has helped, as a personal mode, very much. ^^

I'd appreciate if any "Sage" wrote any official answer about what they had in mind with that creature's name (I know this creature is previous to Paizo, but they will know what they want). But apart from this, I really appreciate your quick posts. Thank you, very much.^^

Sorry for this... "peculiar" question, but this is a question i didn't know how to answer.
I'm from Spain and here, we use some written accents to determine where is the strong syllable.
For example, in this case this should be writen...
Cambión - if it's strong in -on
Cambion - if it's strong in Cam-
So, when i find some words in english, i don't know what's his intonation. And, in this case, i found it enough important to ask here.
I would appreciate any answer; thanks. ^^U

Thank you very much for the quick responses. Then all clear and ready for the game! ^^

Sorry if the question seems a bit simple; I was reading this card and suddenly i saw 2 possible interpretations. The card says so:

Banish this card to shuffle your location deck, examine all of its cards except the bottom one, then shuffle the deck.

Then, if the location deck has, i.e. 10 cards, I banish the Chief Sull, I shuffle, then I take the top 9 cards and I examine them; the tenth one (the bottom one) remains downside.

A) I shuffle the 10 cards again, because they don't write anything about any distinction between the 9 cards in my hand and the bottom one.
B) I only shuffle the 9 cards in my hand, because it refers to the cards in my hand when they write "shuffle the deck"; then I put the shuffled cards on top of the not-shuffled card (the bottom one).

I find very inconsistent the 2nd option, so i guess it's the 1st one (A) the true interpretation, but i prefer to ask and confirm, if it's possible. Taking into account that in te rulebook always say that you must do what the cards say they do, it seems the correct answer, but...

What do you think?

The wording in the above post is correct. Added to FAQ.

(Don't take this particular ruling as an indication of intent for similar wordings.)

Thank you very much, Vic Wertz, for this clear clarification and for the FAQ's adding. I'm happy this had served for something :)

Again, thank you, very much.

So, you say that they could write AT THIS LOCATION When a character dies, all characters at this location die. in both sides and it wouldn't change? So, why is it written in both forms? any errata, maybe?

Oh! And thanks for the answers :)

Hawkmoon269 wrote:

See this comment by Vic. It gives some insight into such things.

I've personally treated this one as if anyone dies anywhere, the characters at the Family Tomb die.

Right.

Also, don't forget what Mike says: If your character dies, you die too. (Or maybe you'll just want to.)

Sorry if I write one year after the last post here, and sorry for my english (I'm from Spain). But I have been searching for an answer and this is the post that I've found about this card, Family Tomb.

Front: AT THIS LOCATION When a character dies, all characters at this location die.

Rear: AT THIS LOCATION When a character dies, all other characters at this location die.

What is the difference? What does "other" mean in that text? I would appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.