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That said, personally I'd much rather be published in GameMastery or Pathfinder than the DI.
Me too, that's why I'm torn.
If WotC accepts them for their DI, your ideas become theirs and not OGC...thus Paizo can't use your ideas. (If I'm wrong, someone feel free to correct me.)
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Not to be disloyal to Paizo, and I don't think it is, but if you have a monster written up now, I'd submit it to the DI now.
The DI has writer's guidelines up now, and a 60 day turn around stated.
That's not disloyalty, it's practicality.
Let's get one thing straight, everyone: If you want to be a writer in any industry, you absolutely cannot afford to refuse to write for one company just because you like another better.
We have no hard feelings here at Paizo toward our friends at Wizards of the Coast. We wish them well in their endeavors. Many of us know and like Chris Thomasson and we know what a horrible mess he has on his hands right now. Frankly, we feel for him at the moment.
If you wait for Paizo's guidelines, you may be waiting a while to submit at all. And then the turnaround time before you can resubmit could be long as well. Paizo have admitted that they don't have the staff resources that WotC has to sort through submissions as quickly.
Also keep in mind that we're not re-creating the magazines. The opportunities to get published by Paizo are dropping drastically. It would be ridiculously stupid of us to not give people a chance to write for us, but unlike when we worked on Dragon and Dungeon our business model simply cannot be based on a slush pile. Most of what we do will be commissioned. We plan on expanding our pool of authors, though, thanks to what we put up on our submissions guidelines.
The Digital Initiative, as the continuation of Dragon and Dungeon to some unknown extent, becomes the new place to be discovered in the gaming industry.
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Also keep in mind that we're not re-creating the magazines. The opportunities to get published by Paizo are dropping drastically. It would be ridiculously stupid of us to not give people a chance to write for us, but unlike when we worked on Dragon and Dungeon our business model simply cannot be based on a slush pile. Most of what we do will be commissioned. We plan on expanding our pool of authors, though, thanks to what we put up on our submissions guidelines.The Digital Initiative, as the continuation of Dragon and Dungeon to some unknown extent, becomes the new place to be discovered in the gaming industry.
That definitely helps to clarify things a bit Mike. Thanks!
Let's get one thing straight, everyone: If you want to be a writer in any industry, you absolutely cannot afford to refuse to write for one company just because you like another better.
Please don't take this the wrong way, because I agree with you, but this instantly reminded me of the quote from the gentleman from Firefly explaining there was no place for him in the perfect world he was creating: "I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it."
I do what I need to do to keep my family happy. I've let questionable companies get away with horrible decisions that I know have hurt people. I'll continue to do so because I cannot let my own ethics get in the way of a paycheck: I'll hug you while my son is watching then garrote you when he turns away.
Not to imply that I think WoTC is evil, but I think professional writers are closer to the truth than most of us. We all have two freedoms: The freedom to submit to the one signing the checks, and the freedom to starve to death instead.
Hmm, that was awful rant-y. Must have been the extra two slices of pizza. Carry on.
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Please forgive me if I implied anything about "disloyalty". I know intimately what it's like to be a freelance writer. I was wondering about where WoTC is going to get quality content.
The Digital Initiative, as the continuation of Dragon and Dungeon to some unknown extent, becomes the new place to be discovered in the gaming industry.
That's assuming that customers go there in significant numbers, which is still very much an open question.
Thanks,
Tom
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No, there was no accusation of disloaylaty or feeling that there was... I was just giving a bit of a disclaimer/explanation before suggesting on Paizo's messageboards that people should submit work to another company.
And I didn't think the Paizo people would have a problem with it either. I just like to err on the side of politeness (and overexplaining).
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That's assuming that customers go there in significant numbers, which is still very much an open question.
No, customers have nothing to do with that. The number of customers only affects how long the DI lasts, it doesn't change the fact that you have a better chance of getting published by the DI than by us, especially if you're new to the industry.
Just a note if you haven't heard - WOTC aren't going to look at the passed across slush pile anymore. If you want them to look at your work, you need to resubmit directly to them.
oy, how annoying - it's not like we didn't have a dozen or so waiting in the wings. :D
So I resubmiited everything I ever submitted (CW's mainly), never heard back anything.
Are there any success stories out there?
So I resubmiited everything I ever submitted (CW's mainly), never heard back anything.
Are there any success stories out there?
Not with Dragon... but I have heard back in regards to some Dungeon adventures.
They were ones I submitted right before the transition was announced (great timing, I know) so they were in the slush pile that was eventually turfed, so I resubmitted them towards the end of August.
Then 60 days came and went, so I figured that they were rejected.
But 2 weeks ago, I got an email at 11pm PST (so he was working late) from Chris Thomasson asking if I was still interested, and apologizing that he was writing back after their announced 60 day timeline. (It was around the 90th day since they were submitted, so I'm guessing that WotC is running into a bit of a black hole of their own with starting up the DI and 4th edition, etc)
He requested a larger, more indepth plot outline (which I had already, since I still had the original Paizo query kicking around) and a summary of all the encounters I planned. I sent that in around 10 days ago, and now I'm waiting to hear back. (But I got sidetracked with RPG Superstar item creation in the interim ;-) )
Hmmm, good to know. CW's are obviously no longer a Dungeon regular but then again there is always next issue ;>
And good luck!
So I resubmiited everything I ever submitted (CW's mainly), never heard back anything.
Are there any success stories out there?
There are a few, and it's important to note that they're definitely running behind their deadline. The latest submission I've heard of getting a response was from around Aug 9th, so if you have anything later than that, there's probably still some hope for it.
- Ashavan
I am going to bump this thread a little.
So Talion and Koldoon, any luck?
How can I subscribe to Dragon Magazine?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I would only like to help with the discussions about dragon magazine.
How can I subscribe to Dragon Magazine?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I would only like to help with the discussions about dragon magazine.
You no langer can, see the news
You can still get the old issues via Paizo (magazine / PDF)
IF anyone has favorite issues of either Dragon or Dungeon magazine that they would like to share with me I would be thankful. Since I can no longer subscribe to the magazine, and can only order the back issues it has become apparent that I have no idea what to expect in this magazine. Just the issue numbers and anything else you would personally like to add would be greatly appreciated by myself and the members of my D&D group.
Thank you very much for your help.
Just read at WotC that 3.5 submission are no longer accepted.
So if you haven't heard by now it's my guess that you can shop your stuff elsewhere ;>