I assume the Giant Turtle on the medium creature list at level 4 is a mistake. RAW i would say you can use it as a medium creature. RAI i doubt you can.
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It seems to me against RAW but not really a balance issue. I don't really think rods make sense but if you wanted to take something like extend spell and use a higher level extract slot i don't see a balance issue. If i was dming i would certainly allow it. I mean you could say the rod is instilling extra energy into the extract as you drink it ... still i don't see a balance issue, however, it seems to be against RAW.
Melee Alchemist 20 Point buy...
Race Human
Traits: Accelerated Drinker (should work with extracts, mutagen ???)
Now there really are some decisions to make. We really want better armor proficency and we also really want martial weapon proficency. (However, do we need heavy armor right away? We can't afford at level 1 and it will costrict our dex bonus, however are goal is to get a 16 dex and mithrial play so we get are full +3 dex bonus. So if we want to go medium armor we can do barbarian 1. If we want heavy armor and an extra feat Warrior.) So maybe we go
Ok well in my mind this is when the crazyness starts. I will let you build out the rest. Attack routine: MW Great Sword +9 2d6+6, 2 Claw +1 1d6+2,Bite +1 1d8+2
Well hope this helps.
Just read through we be goblins. It looks like a ton of fun and a great introduction for new players. I had the same questions about the Alchemist and his formula book but decided to over look it in the interest of fun and burning things down.
"Well there is a couple problems withat that. I would like to try to talk them out." Diplomacy "One, I do not feel that you can protect the the remaining part of the Aohl. You claimed to not even know vampires were here. They were burrowing a tunnel to the artifact. I can show you the tunnel if you would like. Also we got past you to the artifact. So i feel that we will keep it more safe that you are capable of." "Two, we were given permission by current living pathfinders to reclaim the items left here. So although they are being taken away they are not being stolen." Diplomacy "There are things that need to be done and these items can help doing them. My suggestion is we take the artifact and you come with us to ensure it is safe. You will still be the protectors of the item as we will be and together we can ensure the Aohl is reunited and is stopped from causing all of this havoc. After the Aohl stops causing all of these problems together we can find a safe place to keep it and you can continue to be the steadfast guardians you are."
I assume the artifact was found in the amber arc. Were the other items found there? (The hand, the defending weapon, etc) "As i told you before we plan to use the Morrowfoll to help rid the city of the shadow beasts. There is a great darkness affecting west crown perhaps the Morrowfoll can help ignite the return of a great light." Diplomacy "Perhaps you all can help as well?" "The current pathfinder regieme will hopefully reopen the lodge at some point, however, i do not think the house of thrune would allow that yet." "Do you all know much about Ilnrick? (sp? the chronicler)"
"There were vampires in the basement. We burned them out for you. Hopefully that services puts us on better terms."
"Good day gentlemen. Seems those pesky vampires that you allowed to invade have been taken care of." "How shall we proceed?" to the toys
"Aaron, may I use the lens to search this place one more time? If anyone else would like to search with me you are welcome to." I go room to room searching the rooms in the lodge. I will check each room 3 times. Feel free to role for more... I will get things started assuming i can use the lens. roles:
I don't know if you wanted one of us to role this as i haven't seen David on the board lately... “Hand of the Pharaoh of Nagas, Osirion”. Identify with detect magic if magical ...Identify with Identify if magical and spell craft with d magic didn't do it ...appraise by alciabades “Whisperslash—the dueling sword of Baron Agustine II, the Cold Veteran of Oppara” Identify with detect magic if magical ...Identify with Identify if magical and spell craft with d magic didn't do it ..appraise by alciabades “Chess set gifted from Taldor to Cheliax in 4315 ar” Identify with detect magic if magical ...Identify with Identify if magical and spell craft with d magic didn't do it ..appraise by alciabades "Ceremonial belt of Lord Branus Invalli of Nex." Identify with detect magic if magical ...Identify with Identify if magical and spell craft with d magic didn't do it ..appraise by alciabades
DM OOC: Can you have David D magic on the items? He can then try to identify with just spell craft at +10 and with identify at +20 if you can make the roles.
i will also appraise but i know i won't be able to appraise a bit of it ... .. i can also try to look up a price or ask people what i can buy it for not that i have it ... and such games
I would like to get an idea of how much some items cost from gathering information from people i guess or whatever..... i need the value of everying below Mask (of true color or whatever)
Need to value of everything else
To all, "How would you guys like to proceed? Would you like to continue to evaluate things here and do a final scrub down? I think that is a good idea. I know Aaron want to track down the lizardfolk but i am not sure that is the first thing on the agenda. I think we should report back to the pathfiner and Aarael. I would like to have a zone of truth up or someway to tell if the 'pathfinder' is genuine in our discussion. David, have you documented all of are events dealing with the pathfinders and the lodge? I think if you want to become a pathfinder you should be able to make strong case if you have all the things we have done and found documented. I also have on my agenda to split the things we found and do some purhcasing. I have a feeling we may be marked men while holding this artifact. I don't know if we should keep it out so it is usable or store it so it will be harded for people to detect that it is in our possession." OOC: Jason and all I have most of the spreadsheet for treasure complete. I will try to post the appraisals/gather info for things i couldn't find the price of. If it is ok with you i would like to do the selling and loot distribution in parelellel with other stuff and assume it takes place sometime after we leave the lodge. Part of the reason i was waiting was for the stuff you may have missed but i will get what i have out soon and then combine other stuff later.
OOC: Are we waiting for their action or are we waiting for Saturday or?
Do i have any idea if there is a way to end the haunt peacefully or if destruction is the only choice?
Initiative: If i had time to ready my breath. Line of fire If i didn't i will wait to see what happens until my turn in intiative.
That being said..."Bisby! We have been sent by fellow pathfinders to help protect westcrown and hopes to reopen the lodge. What say you?" Diplomacy I try to get this out significantly before kragaar reaches the skeleton Bisby. If Kragaar starts to get close to 'attacking' the skeleton I move up to get within 30 feet and ready and action to breath.
To Catsby "Can i expect a response from him?" sense motive "Do you know who wrote that message?" I motion to the scraw. sense motive I wait for an answer from Catsby. The I enter just inside the room. I toss/role one of the gems of continual flame towards (not at or to) just close to what we pressume to be Bisby. I hope this gives me a better look. perception
"Hail, Bisby!" If i do not hear a response i ask, "Is that Bisby?" I motion to the skeleton holding the bundle.
Is it clear how the door was unlocked? I will open the door. perception
Can we see into the room? Is it lit or dark in there? If it is dark i will let Kragar proceed ... otherwise i will enter the room.
To catsby "Are you coming in?" I use the scarab to detect golems. I also give David the look to use d magaic. After detecting golems i will give the scarab of golem bane to Kragar. "Perhaps you should hold onto this for now." "Does Bisby always stay down here?"
I will follow. What way is he going? The devil door or somewhere else? If we start to go into a new area let me know. "Are there any traps we should be careful not to trigger?" "Did Bisby create you? How old are you all?" "Do you know how you were created?"
"How old is Bisby now?" "Is Bisby here?!" I say excitedly. Bluff "Lets go see him." I give a look of caution to the group...hiding it from the puppets...
OOC: Ok so i forget what we learned about Bisby besides that he found the artifact. How long ago did this happen (how old should Bisby be? What else do we know about Bisby? If you are not sure what we found out or my character wouldn't remember i will try to make some knowledge checks. Knowledge Local:
I ask the group, "What do you guys remember about Bisby?" To Kragar, "We just want to talk to Bisby he isn't our enemy." (I give Kragar a knowing glance trying to say I don't beleive this but it is better to act that way to the dolls. I would rather the dolls not see this.) Bluff OOC rules:
"Where is bisby?" OOC Is he the one we beleive to be a vampire? "I believed him dead." "Perhaps you can come investigate Delvhaven with us and insure we don't do any damage." "Is there anyone else here?"
Sense Motive on Catsby If don't sense anything suspicious... Like he is supporting the artifact doing what is currently doing... or he is hidding something ... I will tell him that i wish to stop the shadow beast from attacking west crown and will try to figure out to 'turn off' the ability of the artifact if it is truly the source of this mischief.
Sorry for not answering all of your questions... I tell them we are looking for it because it may be a source of the shadows in west crown.
ooc... after going back a character sheet or two it looks like Alcibades wrote down the oath but John did not... I think we got it from when were using the candles and had to speak it once before... "Generally i beleive only pathfiners knows the oath but in order to help us we were told it by a fallen pathfinder..." Alcibades then speaks the oath / reads it if he wouldn't remember.
"I apologize If I don't speak clearly...::blurp:: I am feeling a bit ill. I do not know what physical proof I have but i will tell you the part of the story I know of this places history and what has befallen the last pathfinders to reside here. ::wretch::"
If i am allowed to continue to talk. I describe how i know about the fall of the pathfinder house and the Chellish rule. Sense motive (this is to make sure they don't seem aligned with chelliax...if they do i will not continue) I will also tell them about the cache ... the candles (that let us speak to the dead) and the fallen pathfinders and there wishes/ personalities. I think the description of how they acted may be the biggest proof. I will also explain about the artifact and shadow beasts.
Will Save: Assuming i save and something crazy doesn't happen. "My friend does not try to hurt you. Nor will the rest of us if you yield!" Diplomacy ... If i have an action left i will breath a slowing breath on as many as i can... it is a cone... i will make sure to get no one in our party...if a dipomacy is my action then i will wait till next round
I shout out, "What can we do to make peace? You are fine members of this lodge and we seek not your destruction. We can work together to bring this lodge back to glory."
While holding head. "Kragar you are more then able to scare Khazrae without shaking her. Last thing we need is to make this devil any less sane. If you insist to shake it around I will let you but i would prefer you just leave her in my hands for now." "I will use her to help me keep an eye on possible attackers while you cut this thing up." Perception: Perception: Khazrae
Alcibades holds out Khazrae and says, "Well any Ideas?" "Kragar while you take the desk apart I will watch one of the doors. Everyone i suggest you watch one of the doors encase an enemy enters. I will ready an action to breath if someone i don't reconognize comes through one of the doors. I will ready at the door we haven't been through with the devil head on it. Someone may also want to keep an eye on the summoning circle."
I assume everyone knows where we left off. A narrow victory after killing the gibbering mouth and making a deal with Grundmoch the troglodyte cleric.
I will take a 20 or 18 or whatever to search the desk for a button or mechanism to open the desk or get it to move. My modifier is +10. i will ask Khazrae to look with me an show her around as I search. I beleive her mod is 16.
I would like kragar to detect traps and then try to move the desk / open the seam. I am not sure what his modifiers are.
k Arcana Summoning circls Khazrae Kuelata
Hmmm Linguistics for both sets of runes: I do a quick search around the room. I do not enter the summoning circle.... I assume that is different then just looking around if not don't worry about it ... Search I then go near the next set of doors. I will detect gollems and make a perception check for sounds.
Perception I have Karza out and ask here what she sees... generally Erniyes have 16 mod so Perception Karza . Or whatever you want to do for that plus True Seeing.
The closest one... so i guess the double doors.
I move on to the next door. At the door. I run the macro... Golems (scarab)
If all looks clear i will open the door (presuming it is not locked).
Are there more doors then the double doors we saw from the end of the hallway? These are the doors i intend to check / open.
Up to you Kragaar. I doubt the pathfinders will like it but it may be fun. I put my continual flame stone away and move a bit into the darkness. I get Kazar out and ask if she sees anything strange? (I make sure to swivel here around the room. If not tell her please tell me if someone is coming.
I move up with kragar. David a detect magic please. Detect Golems Are the glyphs a language or do they look more magical? Spell Craft
I catiously make my way towards the intersection and look both ways. I guess at this point it makes sense to ensure Aya is near the front in order to make use of her low light vision. At the intersection..Perception:
At the bottom of the stairs i detect golems. I also get out one of the continual light gems.
I start clearing the crap away from the cellar door. Once that is done i will proceed down. Once i get near the bottom i will look, listen, and then detect gollems. Perception
I assume the first circle of protection Aya cast is still working (it is 10 min/level). "Aya, before we go down I suggest you cast a circle of protection evil on yourself or david. That way the people that are in melee range can stay close to krug and the back ranks can stay near you or david. Then we should get moving encase there is a vampire." |