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Miniature paint retails for 3-4 dollars a pot. The 18 dollar paint sets are a fantastic deal. The basic set and then the set with the metallics would probably set you up for painting all the minis in the deal. You won`t be able to find a price this good on miniature paints even looking on ebay or from internet resellers.
However, you can get acrylic craft paint (Golden being the best brand imho) from Michael's or Hobby Lobby for cheaper (especially with the 40% off coupons they give out every two weeks).
Acrylic paint is basically little chips of plastic floating in a suspension. Craft paints have bigger chips and more binders (glue). Miniature paints have finer chips and more of them. They also flow off the brush better and are thinner, and mix better with water and each other. Mini paint can be thinned down without having the chips come out of suspension, craft paints not so much, you end up with a puddle of water and an island of colour.
I prefer using mini paints for minis and craft paints for terrain, bases or large vehicles. That said, you can get perfectly serviceable results with craft paint, but you have to know how to thin them down (future floor polish or matte medium) in order to not obscure detail on the mini or have a frustrating experience painting.
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Caineach |
![Feiya](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9043_Feiya.jpg)
Miniature paint retails for 3-4 dollars a pot. The 18 dollar paint sets are a fantastic deal. The basic set and then the set with the metallics would probably set you up for painting all the minis in the deal.
You can get acrylic craft paint (Golden being the best brand imho) from Michael's or Hobby Lobby for cheaper (especially with the 40% off coupons they give out every two weeks).
Acrylic paint is basically little chips of plastic floating in a suspension. Craft paints have bigger chips and more binders (glue). Miniature paints have finer chips and more of them. They also flow off the brush better and are thinner, and mix better with water and each other. Mini paint can be thinned down without having the chips come out of suspension, craft paints not so much, you end up with a puddle of water and an island of colour.
I prefer using mini paints for minis and craft paints for terrain, bases or large vehicles. That said, you can get perfectly serviceable results with craft paint, but you have to know how to thin them down (future floor polish or matte medium) in order to not obscure detail on the mini or have a frustrating experience painting.
Funny, most of the good painters I know use Applebarel and thin it with water, unless they are looking for metalics.
I would agree that these are great deals for miniature paints, and it is much easier for a beginer to get these than to getting base colors and try to mix everything.
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Caineach |
![Feiya](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9043_Feiya.jpg)
bugleyman wrote:Bumped my pledge from $15 to $100. I'll probably never get around to painting these, but that deal is just too amazing to pass up.Nice bump. I was originally going to go for the $15 pledge when this was first announced. I've now bumped up twice since getting in a $100.
I have to say I'm suprized there are still people at the $60 level.
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GentleGiant |
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Another post for those who aren't too keen on pledging because they're not sure if they can/want to paint the minis.
Here's a great thread showing the results you can get from just a base coat of paint + "dipping" (actually, brushing on the dip mixture instead of submerging the minis in the mixture).
Dipping thread (you really have to take a look at the post midway down the page).
As the poster says, this is just base coat + dip, no highlights or anything.
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pres man |
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GAH! This is driving me nuts! This is like the third or fourth time a great Kickstarter has come along, and I didn't hear about it till the last minute, and can't contribute cause I'm broke.
Wish I could scrounge up $100 for the pledge, but I've got bills to pay that are slightly more important.
As others said there are lower levels that are still worth looking at.
For $15, you could get 36 miniatures (12 kobolds, 12 rats, 12 non-PF goblins). With that, you could get a paint set for $18 each. A carrying case for $25. Or 20 orcs for $25.
If you can scrounge up $40, you could get the 36 kobolds/rats/goblins and the 20 orcs (56 all together) averaging out around $0.71 per miniature. Pretty good deal.
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pres man |
![Gnome Trickster](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/TSR95053-17.jpg)
This kickstarter is so good, I had to make a spread sheet just to organize all the goodies and keep track of what I am planning on getting. For the survey at the end, I don't want to have one of these moments.
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There's a fellow who has set up a calculator for organizing the extras:
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Shifty |
![Ninja](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Ninja.jpg)
Doh, was hoping for more 'Fantasy'.
I'm in for the Vampire level, however I wouldn't mind seeing a few bulk deals - buying individual giants for $10 just seems odd in comparison with the rest of the deal... how about a bulk 'pack' of either dragons/giants etc? Or maybe they are hoping to make margin on the upsell?
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Steve Geddes |
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Doh, was hoping for more 'Fantasy'.
I'm in for the Vampire level, however I wouldn't mind seeing a few bulk deals - buying individual giants for $10 just seems odd in comparison with the rest of the deal... how about a bulk 'pack' of either dragons/giants etc? Or maybe they are hoping to make margin on the upsell?
Yeah, they probably can't be too generous with the extra minis or they'll end up with a whole bunch of shiny new moulds and a satiated customer base furiously painting hundreds of minis each for the foreseeable future and not buying anything.
This deal is such good value - I can't imagine not jumping at it, if you're an unpainted minis enthusiast. I wish they offered some prepainted options too.
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Doug's Workshop |
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Doh, was hoping for more 'Fantasy'.
I'm in for the Vampire level, however I wouldn't mind seeing a few bulk deals - buying individual giants for $10 just seems odd in comparison with the rest of the deal... how about a bulk 'pack' of either dragons/giants etc? Or maybe they are hoping to make margin on the upsell?
Well, you would get both giants for your $10.
Back of the napkin calculations say the optional purchases are at around half retail price.
Plus, you can buy as many of the giant add-ons as you want. You want three sets? Add $30 to your pledge. That's six giants. If you want two sets of the fire/shadow dragons, add $30. If four dragons isn't enough, up your pledge by $20 for two ebonwraths.
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Shifty |
![Ninja](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Ninja.jpg)
Well, you would get both giants for your $10.
OK that appears to be the case,
Fire Giant Warriors has 1 mini and one 'concept art', so for a minute I took it as ONE mini, not the mini shown + a mini of the concept art.
I took it as that because the PF Dragon, for example, is ONE model for 10 bucks, as in ONE undead giant, ONE Deathsleet, ONE Ebonwrath - I did think it odd, but with that 1xModel=$10 it threw me :)
One Deathsleet seems out of price synch with a PAIR of 'Here be Dragons' though, as an example.
Dunno, but some kinda 'optional pack bulk-option' would get me on board. Gonna have to farm off all my modern day and sci-fi minis though, I'm sure there will be a few takers :)
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WampaX |
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Well the pair of dragons are $15, so a bit more. Also they appear to be large, where the other dragons are at least huge.
This size assessment would be correct.
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Some scale photos of the larger minis:
http://www.reapermini.com/misc/KS_DragonsScale.jpg
http://www.reapermini.com/misc/KS_OgresScale.jpg
http://www.reapermini.com/misc/KS_DemonScale.jpg
http://www.shakandara.com/img/demonscale.jpg
http://www.shakandara.com/img/dragonscale.jpg
http://www.shakandara.com/img/giantscale.jpg
http://www.shakandara.com/img/wyrmscale.jpg
http://www.shakandara.com/img/spiritscale.jpg
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Doug's Workshop |
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Hey, shifty, no worries.
For what it's worth, the Pathfinder dragon is a far more complex model, so the mold will cost considerably more than those other two dragons.
I've spent the last couple days painting Bones at Gen Con, and while I prefer meter minis, this line is great to get more people into the hobby, and to make table top painting more affordable. Especially those large models like dragons and giants.
I haven't jumped in yet, since I have most of these in metal, but I'll be filling the ranks of my giant army once these are released.
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This has just passed 800k. The 930k stretch goal has been announced - Pathfinder Iconics & Jabberwock!
Seelah, Damian, Merisiel, Freya, Amri Valeros & Seoni
Kicktraq is indicating that it should pass this, and potentially reach a million dollars
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A painted jabberwock.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_913QEbQ5KE/TsuJLZ6fG2I/AAAAAAAABFA/def0YRhHrvY/s 1600/DSCF4997.JPG
And the reaper folks say there are more pathfinder minis in the pipeline.
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Pravus |
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I am forcing myself to take the weekend to think on this, but man do I want to get on this. I haven't painted miniatures in 20 years and back then it was GW. I wasn't very good at it, but now with all the videos on YouTube I think if I take up painting again my efforts will be a lot better than before. At least now I can see what is washing, wet blending and such actually mean. The height of my previous miniature paint exploits got as far as bad priming, too thick paint and some mediocre dry brushing.
It is a lot of money, I'll need brushes, paints, pretty much everything and all those options it hard not to consider throwing $300 or more at this Kickstarter just to get in on all the fantastic offerings.
What have been other people experiences returning to painting? As a teenager I was impatient and did not have a lot of learning resources. Compare that to now as an adult with hopefully more patients and with web loads of resources to help you out?
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I just returned to painting after about 15 years or so. I was also in high school the last time I painted and my results were fairly bad. I used gloss model paint from a chain store (it was much cheaper) back then, so everything had a high plastic-looking shine to it. I just started up again and it's a little tricky to feel like you're getting the hang of it again, but there are so many new options to find tutorials and instruction via the net, that my results are turning out WAY better!!! If I get time, I'll post pictures of an atrocious mummy I painted in high school next to a mummy I just painted recently (same base model). The results are drastic. If you have any interest in it at all, I highly recommend giving it another shot. Maturity/increased patience and resources/instructions go a LONG way toward making your work better.
Also, the Reaper Kickstarter is a ridiculously good deal!!! The great thing is, you aren't charged until the Kickstarter ends (in 7 days). If you are disciplined enough (NOTE: only if you are do I recommend this), use a credit card to pledge (your pledge ends up running through Amazon). This gives you an additional month to procure funds to cover your pledge :)
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Blog about someone assembling the demoness:
http://parhoon-naval-yards.blogspot.ca/2011/08/my-latest-project.html
And a reaper guide on a green craft mat with inches:
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I also turned up this: Painted version of a giant and the ogre warchief:
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g444/SamFradsham/Miniatures/020.jpg
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ced1106 |
What have been other people experiences returning to painting? As a teenager I was impatient and did not have a lot of learning resources. Compare that to now as an adult with hopefully more patients and with web loads of resources to help you out?
YES. More discipline, more information, more mini's, more paints, more money. (:
Twenty years ago, I tried painting an army of Warhammer 40K orcs in fluorescent colors. Yeah, that didn't work. I've since acquired some painted orcs (to use as models), other miniatures (which were easier to paint), some craft paints (metallics work well on SF minis), and lots of patience. Simply because there's *more* stuff out there, you can better find what you need for *your* miniature needs. I mean, the $100 pledge will get you 130+ fantasy miniatures, and 30+ SF ones. You'll definitely find some miniatures easier to paint than others!
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ced1106 |
The Frost and Fire giants look so good it's hard to say no... I still say we suffer from a general lack of vermin! We got some rats, giant bugs would be nice too. And we need more animals...
Giant bugs were added at the 800K stretch level! (:
You get two of each of these guys at the $100 Vampire level.
http://www.reapermini.com/misc/KS_VerminReward.jpg
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orrinb1969 |
I have been following this since about day 5 or so. I started at $18.00, & am now capped at $250.00
The paints were just too good to pass up, & I'm suprised nobody is talking about the mini case. That thing is basically 50% off!!!
I'm betting they clear a million, & I will probably hear the party at Reaper from here!
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Zakur Opzan |
I have been following this since about day 5 or so. I started at $18.00, & am now capped at $250.00
The paints were just too good to pass up, & I'm suprised nobody is talking about the mini case. That thing is basically 50% off!!!
I'm betting they clear a million, & I will probably hear the party at Reaper from here!
I too started with the $18 and quickly went to the vampire level and will probably be eating ramen noodles with all the addons. I tried cutting back and the first thing i went to was the paints...and i was thinking DUH! all the new minis will require more paint! lol
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Eric Mason 37 |
I heartily suggest going to visit him and have some paint nights. That way you can learn from him and do some simple figs while he does the more complex models. Hanging out chatting, and painting is great gamer socializing time.
I have fond memories of hours spent painting with my friends when we should have been doing homework ;)
Eric
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pres man |
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Less than $5.5K from Pathfinder Iconics. If you are sitting on the fence, now is the time to become a backer. You don't want to miss the chance to get these iconics by delaying*. Act now to get this great deal.
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Matrixryu |
![Red Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A3_Longtooth-the-Red-Dragon.jpg)
I'm really thinking about joining in on this Kickstarter, but I have some questions about the Bones minis and Reaper Paints...
First, does anyone know if Citadel paints will work on these Bones minis without priming?
Also, does anyone know if Reaper paints and Citadel pants can be used on the same mini?
Yea, I have a bunch of Citadel paints already, but was thinking about trying out the Reaper ones. wouldn't want to replace my entire collection at once though, so I'd probably end up using both for a while.
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Elrostar |
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I find that I paint much better in the evening, while drinking a beer, than I do in the morning, while drinking coffee :)
Drinking a beer helps steady my hands, it seems. Or possibly it's that coffee makes them shake a bit. Either way, it's a fantastic way to spend an evening, especially if I do it while listening to a good audiobook or watching some TV.
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GentleGiant |
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I'm really thinking about joining in on this Kickstarter, but I have some questions about the Bones minis and Reaper Paints...
First, does anyone know if Citadel paints will work on these Bones minis without priming?
Also, does anyone know if Reaper paints and Citadel pants can be used on the same mini?
Yea, I have a bunch of Citadel paints already, but was thinking about trying out the Reaper ones. wouldn't want to replace my entire collection at once though, so I'd probably end up using both for a while.
Yes, you can easily use both Citadel and Reaper paints on the same miniature. They are both standard acrylic paints.
The Bones miniatures should take paint readily, even without priming them.John Sears posted a link to a blog post of his in the other Reaper Kickstarter thread, where he painted a Bones mini without priming it.
Blog post
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I'm really thinking about joining in on this Kickstarter, but I have some questions about the Bones minis and Reaper Paints...
First, does anyone know if Citadel paints will work on these Bones minis without priming?
Also, does anyone know if Reaper paints and Citadel pants can be used on the same mini?
Yea, I have a bunch of Citadel paints already, but was thinking about trying out the Reaper ones. wouldn't want to replace my entire collection at once though, so I'd probably end up using both for a while.
Just remember not to thin the first basecoat down with water. Use a bit of reapers brush on sealer or matte medium if you need to thin. Extra water seems to be repelled by the pvc and cause beading. After the first coat, thin as normal.