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It's Huge!

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

The way the story goes, Erik walked into the copy shop with a disc holding the map of the Inner Sea Region and asked the employee there to make the image as big as he could.

"Okay, here we go," the man said, holding up a sheet maybe two feet high.

"I don't think you understand," Erik replied. "I need this big."

Thus it was that last Friday, Erik and Wes came into the office holding a map of the Inner Sea Region that, when unrolled, measured seven feet tall and six feet across. As we all stood around it in shock, looking down on it in mingled wonder and terror, I think the same two thoughts were in everyone's brains. Here was the world we'd created...

...and now we needed to fill it.

For of course that's why we had the map printed. With the forthcoming World Guide: The Inner Sea (a revised and expanded version of the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting hardcover, fully updated to the Pathfinder RPG) and the Inner Sea Poster Map Folio, it's time for us to finally buckle down and crank our own obsessive tendencies to the max as we attempt to place every location that's featured in a Pathfinder game product in its appropriate place. And of course, as if that madness weren't enough, the forthcoming world guide also presents a ton of new adventure locations and notable sites for regions that previously only had a few dots on a map. While there are still countless places left open for GMs to populate and describe as they see fit, this is our attempt to create something truly comprehensive to satisfy even the most detail-oriented GMs.

This, of course, is madness. I'm sure that within a month, we'll all be gibbering on the floor as the ink staining our fingertips reaches toxic levels. But until then, the Map will be on the wall, watching us, daring us to try to fill it in. How much of our hubristic attempt to catch everything makes it into the final map folio is anyone's guess—it may be that printing every tag would result in type too small to see with the naked eye—but you'll know when you see it that the Paizo editorial team gave their all to make it as accurate as they could, boldly chucking interns and coworkers into the line of fire. That's how much we care!

James L. Sutter
Fiction Editor

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Scarab Sages

Will this be available in a GM's version (all the info), and players' version (well-known landmarks, but without any scenario spoilers)?

I can understand not wanting to make two printing runs, but at least if there's a PDF, we can do this ourselves.

In the event there is a PDF, please could the text be split into at least two layers; one of commonly-known information, and the other of scenario-specific locations?
That way, a GM can extract the area he wants, and edit away one or more of the text layers, leaving the PCs' intended destination in full view, while removing all trace that The Underground Temple of Horrendous Doom lies directly in their path.


James Jacobs wrote:
Tarrintino wrote:
Please, please, please, please, please make a map of this size available for purchase! Or at least make available a high resolution PDF or JPEG of the map so I can go to my local print shop to have them print out a giant color map for my gaming room.
That'd be expensive. Several hundred dollars, it turns out. Fortunately, as Gorbacz points out above, we'll be printing a much less expensive version of the final map later this year.

Several hundred dollars, for a CD-ROM. Wow, must be gold plated.

Actually, that's what we're asking for, the file. Yea, I know. We probably won't be able to purchase it, but we'll never be able to purchase it if we don't ask.

-Swiftbrook

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Swiftbrook wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Tarrintino wrote:
Please, please, please, please, please make a map of this size available for purchase! Or at least make available a high resolution PDF or JPEG of the map so I can go to my local print shop to have them print out a giant color map for my gaming room.
That'd be expensive. Several hundred dollars, it turns out. Fortunately, as Gorbacz points out above, we'll be printing a much less expensive version of the final map later this year.

Several hundred dollars, for a CD-ROM. Wow, must be gold plated.

Actually, that's what we're asking for, the file. Yea, I know. We probably won't be able to purchase it, but we'll never be able to purchase it if we don't ask.

-Swiftbrook

It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Snorter wrote:

Will this be available in a GM's version (all the info), and players' version (well-known landmarks, but without any scenario spoilers)?

I can understand not wanting to make two printing runs, but at least if there's a PDF, we can do this ourselves.

In the event there is a PDF, please could the text be split into at least two layers; one of commonly-known information, and the other of scenario-specific locations?
That way, a GM can extract the area he wants, and edit away one or more of the text layers, leaving the PCs' intended destination in full view, while removing all trace that The Underground Temple of Horrendous Doom lies directly in their path.

We only have plans to print a version with all the tags on it.

Sczarni

James Jacobs wrote:
Swiftbrook wrote:


Several hundred dollars, for a CD-ROM. Wow, must be gold plated.

Actually, that's what we're asking for, the file. Yea, I know. We probably won't be able to purchase it, but we'll never be able to purchase it if we don't ask.

-Swiftbrook

It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.

But with the file, GMs could print one page/screen on color laser printers at home, allowing them to better sow an area of the world for the openings of campaign/adventures

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Cpt_kirstov wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Swiftbrook wrote:


Several hundred dollars, for a CD-ROM. Wow, must be gold plated.

Actually, that's what we're asking for, the file. Yea, I know. We probably won't be able to purchase it, but we'll never be able to purchase it if we don't ask.

-Swiftbrook

It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.

But with the file, GMs could print one page/screen on color laser printers at home, allowing them to better sow an area of the world for the openings of campaign/adventures

That's true... but again, I was specifically speaking to the idea of taking the giant file to a print shop to print a single huge map like the one in the blog picture.


James Jacobs wrote:


It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.

I'd only need the file, the full color plotter at my work could take care of the rest. So How much? Not that I need it, but I was thinking that it would be a fun gift to give to the guy whose game room my group uses each week.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Kind of off topic. Wandered into Ravenstone Games, and they had one copy of the big rolled map of Ptolus left on the shelf. Not that big a fan of Ptolus but I thought I'd love to see the Paizo Poster Map like that.

The Exchange

Dark Sasha wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.
I'd only need the file, the full color plotter at my work could take care of the rest. So How much? Not that I need it, but I was thinking that it would be a fun gift to give to the guy whose game room my group uses each week.

Same here - A0 printer that could do with a more interesting test page to run through it :)

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Dark Sasha wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


It's obviously cheaper if the file's distributed electronically. It gets expensive if you want to print it out on a single giant piece of paper... THAT'S the part I was talking about.
I'd only need the file, the full color plotter at my work could take care of the rest. So How much? Not that I need it, but I was thinking that it would be a fun gift to give to the guy whose game room my group uses each week.

Wonder how much it would be for Staples or Kinkos to print out that beast?


Am I the only one trying to figure out what the magazines and books are in the standing shelf nearby...

Some wierd looking stuff there...


Every time I pass that huge map in the hall, I think what an awesome shower curtain it would make.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Kind of off topic. Wandered into Ravenstone Games, and they had one copy of the big rolled map of Ptolus left on the shelf. Not that big a fan of Ptolus but I thought I'd love to see the Paizo Poster Map like that.

How much is that map going for? I would be interesed in buying it. Maybe.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Sharoth wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Kind of off topic. Wandered into Ravenstone Games, and they had one copy of the big rolled map of Ptolus left on the shelf. Not that big a fan of Ptolus but I thought I'd love to see the Paizo Poster Map like that.
How much is that map going for? I would be interesed in buying it. Maybe.

I can check tomorrow, but their contact info is here My memory says 39.99, but my memory sucks.

Edit: I know its cheeper than the book itself, but I'm just not that much of a completest.


Judy Bauer wrote:
Every time I pass that huge map in the hall, I think what an awesome shower curtain it would make.

Print it out and laminate it? That might work!

http://www.gamer-printshop.com/color-maps.html

I never used their service, but it seems like they have the know-how to pull it off!

- X


Matthew Morris wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Kind of off topic. Wandered into Ravenstone Games, and they had one copy of the big rolled map of Ptolus left on the shelf. Not that big a fan of Ptolus but I thought I'd love to see the Paizo Poster Map like that.
How much is that map going for? I would be interesed in buying it. Maybe.

I can check tomorrow, but their contact info is here My memory says 39.99, but my memory sucks.

Edit: I know its cheeper than the book itself, but I'm just not that much of a completest.

If that is the price, then I might just be interested in it.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Having recently finished the last run of updates for my Atlas that's no longer available to the public, it'll be interesting to see how this update compares to all the maps that have been put out. Today I discovered there were a few places in the map from Heart of the Jungle not on previous versions of that area... not to mention the fonts and symbols have all been changed, again. :)


SirUrza wrote:
Having recently finished the last run of updates for my Atlas that's no longer available to the public, it'll be interesting to see how this update compares to all the maps that have been put out. Today I discovered there were a few places in the map from Heart of the Jungle not on previous versions of that area... not to mention the fonts and symbols have all been changed, again. :)

Urza, in your mapping, have you found any locations that have been incorrectly mapped or were mentioned but never mapped? I'm working to create a comprehensive document and I know you're a big map guy. Any help?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
yoda8myhead wrote:
Urza, in your mapping, have you found any locations that have been incorrectly mapped or were mentioned but never mapped? I'm working to create a comprehensive document and I know you're a big map guy. Any help?

Yeah there's a bunch of them. You might remember me documenting them in the Atlas as I found them. :)

Ustalav map (campaign setting) vs. Pathfinder 11 map. Look at the area around Vigil.

The Pathfinder 4 map of Varisia has still missing and/or renamed that was on the Pathfinder 1 map.

Osirion map from the Gazetter had Eto in a different spot then the Entombed with the Pharaohs module map.

Of course the Iobaria map from Pathfinder 33 goes right off the Inner Seas map.. so that was pretty cool.

The campaign setting map moved Falcon's Hollow into the Woods, which Pazio said was incorrect. See the D1(?) map was correct for it.

I'm not sure if we ever got the location of Dragonfall, just that Augustana had a teleport to it.

Maybe on day we'll get an official interactive atlas. Until then, well, I'm glad I learned HTML so many years ago. :)


I had one made. So can you! Sorry about the picture quality but camer on phone is not so great...

Liberty's Edge

Kilrex wrote:
I had one made. So can you! Sorry about the picture quality but camer on phone is not so great...

That. Is. Awesome. Now, the questions become:

1) where did you go to have that printed out?
2) how much did it cost you?
3) what material did you have it printed on?
4) what are the final dimensions?

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

yoda8myhead wrote:
I think you should hire someone to work exclusively on this project as a contract freelancer.

Seeing this thread get resurrected and looking at the first comment from when it went live made me laugh out loud. Thanks for making my night Kilrex, albeit unintentionally, I'm sure.

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

HangarFlying wrote:
Kilrex wrote:
I had one made. So can you! Sorry about the picture quality but camer on phone is not so great...

That. Is. Awesome. Now, the questions become:

1) where did you go to have that printed out?
2) how much did it cost you?
3) what material did you have it printed on?
4) what are the final dimensions?

Just a local print shop next door to my FLGS. Had them previously print out some vinyl mats containing various ships layouts. So I took them my downloaded Inner Sea Region pdf, which they enlarged and printed on a piece of vinyl. The cost was a little shy of $100, but taxes brought it over. The map is sized about 6 foot tall and 4 foot wide and about a louse thick.

Mark Moreland wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
I think you should hire someone to work exclusively on this project as a contract freelancer.
Seeing this thread get resurrected and looking at the first comment from when it went live made me laugh out loud. Thanks for making my night Kilrex, albeit unintentionally, I'm sure.

I chuckled a bit my self when I hovered over the poster's name and appeared an alias of you. On another note, you have been neglecting the mite community!

I was going over Paizo blogs from before I joined the site to save some pictures, advice columns, and other goodies in case I don't have internets. And April is thread necromancy month...

Liberty's Edge

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
Quote about Printing.

Thanks for the info! I'm assuming this wasn't a Kinkos or Office Max but a true printing shop?

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

HangarFlying wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
Quote about Printing.
Thanks for the info! I'm assuming this wasn't a Kinkos or Office Max but a true printing shop?

Yep, the kind that does outdoors banners and such.

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