I forsee Obsidian and Brun could having fun wrestling. Obsidian at least would enjoy it.
Hey all, I have been much busier than usual at work the past couple days getting ready for a big trade show. Like, a ton of work got dropped on me that I was not expecting. Lots of overtime. Normally I can get to my PbP games during the workday but not as much this week. And besides that, I’ve been prepping scenarios for a local PFS con that takes place all day Friday and Saturday. So I apologize that I haven’t been able to advance the game. I will get things moving again by Sunday. Thank you for your patience!
No worries. Do what you need to.
That's totally fine if your posts are short. I've been trying to make it inactive but there's a bug preventing me from editing the campaign right now. I will as soon as I can.
Just so you know, I don't get much benefit from Haste.
Busy workday and I have PF2 playtest group tonight; probably won't advance the game until I get home around 10:30 PM MST
Question: Is his 'corrupt' damage negative energy?
Also, was there a will save for D to get teleported?
Ghosts' corrupting touch is not negative energy, no. And his teleporting thing had a 1d4 round reset (he rolled a 4).
@Gilliby, no action needed. That combat is over and there are no other immediate threats.
Tactically, it seems unwise to d-door next to them. They will get full actions to attack on their turn. Whereas, they hypothetically have to spend actions to come to us.
-my 2 cents
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The GM said that I can use meta-knowledge since I rolled so high, so I’m gonna use it: Shining Children have spell turning, and any chance we have to prevent them activating that is pertinent! And, honestly, the worst thing about these guys is their battlefield control and their super buffs—if we run then we’re doing exactly what they want. Plus they have Greater Teleport at will, so d-door-ing away will actually do very little.
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Obsidian palpably radiates power as he sinks into the floor. He then reappears from the floor, next to the wall of force. As he does so, a spear of metal juts out and races toward the shining children.
[dice=Impale]1d20+22+1
14d6+34+1
Now...this brings up an interesting situation that I honestly don't know how it would work
The impale infusion makes more than one reference to the word "target," but it's kind of an AoE, maybe? Spell Turning turns both spells and SLAs back at the caster, meaning that a Kineticist's blast is indeed susceptible to the spell, but it's more of a question of if it would be at this point in time with that infusion.
School abjuration; Level arcanist 7, psychic 7, sorcerer 7, summoner 5, summoner (unchained) 6, wizard 7
Casting
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, M/DF (a small silver mirror)
Effect
Range personal
Target you
Duration until expended or 10 min./level
Description
Spells and spell-like effects targeted on you are turned back upon the original caster. The abjuration turns only spells that have you as a target. Effect and area spells are not affected. Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells. From seven to ten (1d4+6) spell levels are affected by the turning. The exact number is rolled secretly.
When you are targeted by a spell of higher level than the amount of spell turning you have left, that spell is partially turned. Subtract the amount of spell turning left from the spell level of the incoming spell, then divide the result by the spell level of the incoming spell to see what fraction of the effect gets through. For damaging spells, you and the caster each take a fraction of the damage. For nondamaging spells, each of you has a proportional chance to be the one who is affected. If you and a spellcasting attacker are both warded by spell turning effects in operation, a resonating field is created. Roll randomly to determine the result.
It seems that it would be considered an area spells as the rolled attack roll goes against both creatures.
I think if any attack roll is rolled, it's subject to Spell Turning. Can you walk me through how we calculate the effective spell level of the blast?
I think if any attack roll is rolled, it's subject to Spell Turning. Can you walk me through how we calculate the effective spell level of the blast?
** spoiler omitted **
That is simply untrue as Spell Turning specifically states "Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells". And, the attack roll is not specific to any 1 target. It is 1 attack roll against all targets in the 30ft line area of effect.
As far as I can tell, and have run it, kinetic blasts are always considered max spell level (so level 7).
Impale is an SLA that has an attack roll against target(s). It’s not a touch attack. Not even a ranged touch, which would still be turned by Spell Turning. Looks pretty straightforward to me. Spell Turning turns spells and SLAs that target you. Impale mentions targets several times. An attack roll is made against all targets. The “AOE-like” mechanic of potentially hitting other enemies in a line doesn’t change the fact that an attack roll is made against the targets. If the kineticist were standing adjacent and making an actual touch attack it wouldn’t work, but that’s not what’s happening here. The entire blast is turned back on Obsidian when it strikes the first shining child. The second is unaffected because the first failed to take damage.
I'm leaving for a long-ish hike in a few and I won't update combat until I'm back. I'm open to listening to another interpretation but as of now, it doesn't even feel particularly ambiguous to me as to how spell turning works with this blast.
I made my argument. We disagree, but you are the GM. Will we be using Obsidian's attack roll then?
Back from the hike but now we're running off to another family thing so I'm still gonna wait on gameplay updates. I want to be fair re: spell turning so I'll keep thinking about it in the meantime.
One used mirage arcana for the basic terrain (the floor is lava) and the other used major image to make the “heat” and the “lava-falls”. So essentially the illusions interact with all senses (sight, sound, smell, thermal).
None of this was written in; I just wanted to have some fun with their SLAs while I had the chance :)
So...our tactics at the moment are ill befitting of seeker level characters. If they want to kill us, they will be willing to come to us. If they don't, then they'll leave us alone. I think our best bet is to hunker down in a sealed location and wait for them to come to us. Otherwise you'll just end up chasing them around to no avail because they can teleport away. I say we hole up in a hallway.
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Xavier’s one defense against these things—displacement—is likely to run out if we wait for it to come to us. Plus, Xavier’s smart, not wise—it’s in his nature to be over-analytical to a fault—and in his mind the Shining child will eventually teleport to a place where it didn’t know one of us already was.
Problem is, you and Delduwath are really the only ones who can harm them.
It will take 6 more charges of CLW to bring Obsidian back up to full.
3 would be fine, thank you
Sorry for being away the past few days. Had a last-minute mini skiing trip with family and was not able to post. I'll get caught back up shortly.
I have to check in again just to apologize once more for my delays in posting. Between work deadlines, family, and some Christmas gift art projects that are taking longer than I anticipated, I haven't been able to get to my PbP games the past few days.
The complex nature of high-level combat makes this module especially time-consuming at the moment. Please accept my apologies for the delays. I'll keep the game moving when I am able to find the time.
Forgive me, I forgot to account for Kinetic Form in my burn cost for the day. I have taken care of it now.
No worries; thanks for staying honest.
Out of game, is this creature flying?
It is indeed flying.
lol
Someday my tremorsense will be useful.
Yeah, we're at a point in our Pathfinder careers where most everything flies. Especially invisible things.
If it makes you feel any better, I doubt this encounter will last another round now that the thing is visible.
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Semi-consideration
Some context: I wrote that at a time of day when I should’ve been sleeping and not being on my computer, so what was said was mostly a byproduct of having no filter because I was tired.
That said, I understand that my frustration is with the player and not the character. I’m mostly using character choices as a proxy for venting my frustrations towards players who do such things.
I get having an optimized character—Hell, Xavier has a stupid-high Perception, so I’m not one to talk—but as I said, my rant wasn’t meant to be directed at anyone at this table. Honestly, this module has been Xavier’s best chance to shine that he’s had in a long time.
I do appreciate that you’re being considerate of the others at the table, but I ask that we please just see my little rant as a bit of catharsis by proxy. Let’s just forget about it and move on with the module.
First, what was the name of my flagship? The Harlot
Second, how did my first darling wife die? Childbirth
And third, why is my eldest son’s body not here with us? It sank at sea
That was a fun puzzle.