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MJ must be busy because he hasn't posted in a while. But what I think we need is a breakdown of Round 2 of who has attacked and who has moved. Johann already went in Round 2 also, so I am just waiting for my next turn.

Boga |

Now that we've had a couple battles, any ideas on strategy? I'm thinking that we could organize into 2 default groups, based on whose abilities benefit whom. I think Ogon and Boga can work as melee distractors / flanking partners, so we should be in different groups. Boga has no real attack, but he always threatens.

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duh... don't know why I didn't see that healing. Thanks Boga

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Geez MJ, as a dad with a baby, you picked the worse thing to trigger me.

Michael Johnson 66 |

Geez MJ, as a dad with a baby, you picked the worse thing to trigger me.
I’m so sorry, Johann... this PBP has taken a very dark turn lol...
I am sure all the PCs are now invested in bringing down the Antichrist and the evil Church of Lucifer, if it’s the last thing they do!
Michael Johnson 66 |

Bringing the documents to the pope sets in motion precautions and preparations that save hundreds of lives... Each PC now has a total of 2,983 XP after bringing the satanic documents to the pope, plus 40 each for fine role playing, equals a grand total of 3,023 XP! Enough to advance to level 3!
You must first sleep for 8 hours before gaining 3rd level benefits.

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lol- i checked the forum right before I left (for Infinity War) and then when I got home there were almost 30 messages...
You think that's bad? I have 50 something and missed another fight entirely! :)
EDIT: Lucius is leveled, except for a feat. Anyone got any ideas of what might be useful for him?

Zagathoth |

Maybe inner radiance? Flare burst isn’t great but it gives you +1 daylight/day so that if you took the feat again at 5th you could use searing light 3/day.
Other than fun racial stuff, what do you want to be better at? IIRC you traded away solo tactics, but if you’re going to be a flanking partner you could see if Johann wants to take precise strike teamwork feat with you? I don’t get a feat this level because of VMC, but I could get precise strike too with martial flexibility if/when I needed to. Or, basic combat feats like weapon focus and dodge feel like everyone takes them because they’re useful enough that everyone takes them?

Boga |

@Lucius -- I'm not blowing off the religious discussion. I am really interested in a good conversation, so I need to look into the Bohemian Reformation and Wycliffe a bit more. I'll do that, and we can have a good one.
@MJ66 -- I had originally planned on Boga playing the Vielle (Perform (String)), but I was wondering if I could change that to (Perform (Sing)). Talking about signs of divine approval, I have a concept where being an Ecclesitheurge, he is going to focus on "Sound Burst" flavored as a the Voice of God or a host of singing angels. In that case, he would pursue "Preferred Spell" and maybe "Spell Perfection" (though that would be some time away).

Toshio Okumura |

Having sailed across the English Channel and into the Mediterranean Sea to reach Italy, the famous English composer John Dunstable has arrived in Rome to play the great pipe organ at the Church of Saint Peter.
He has heard that a composer and organist of foreign blood is making a name for himself... Toshio Okumura... and he considers challenging this organist to a contest of improvisation on one of the Church modes...
They say this Okumura chap has a masterful touch at the keys...
I was just wondering whether there would be some downtime allowing the Ogon Fox to resume his social identity as Toshio Okumura for a while and start to make his place in Rome...he needs to find a way to become established. He's not actually in need of income to survive, what with the support the Ogon Fox is gaining from the church as a member of this party, but he can't be in a situation where it's obvious that Toshio Okumura is doing nothing to support himself, prompting questions from the world which knows nothing of his alter ego...
Perhaps it is time to reveal his dual identity to the party. An idea that springs to mind is a patronage by Cardinal Lucius for Toshio (no need to actually pay him because he'd be in the know, but it would create the desired appearance). I'm not sure that would be a good route to take, however, because a major benefit of this separate identity is being able to be seen as having no connections whatsoever to the party.
I think I'm going to be taking Weapon Finesse for my 3rd level feat so I can do better in melee when I don't want to Aid. 3rd level also gets me Piercing Bolts, which allows me to make one mystic bolt per round a touch attack (melee or ranged) instead of targeting normal AC (you may ask why it matters that it's only one since I don't have +6/+1 BAB yet; it's because Two-Weapon Fighting can be used with mystic bolts, as can Rapid Shot, and then there are always attacks of opportunity that happen in addition to your one attack on your turn).
I'm having trouble picking my 3rd level social talent. I think the top two picks are Renown and Social Grace.
Oh, and we also need to introduce the thrush familiar that I gained with my 2nd level vigilante talent!

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Perhaps it is time to reveal his dual identity to the party. An idea that springs to mind is a patronage by Cardinal Lucius for Toshio (no need to actually pay him because he'd be in the know, but it would create the desired appearance). I'm not sure that would be a good route to take, however, because a major benefit of this separate identity is being able to be seen as having no connections whatsoever to the party.
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Oh, and we also need to introduce the thrush familiar that I gained with my 2nd level vigilante talent!
I can certainly introduce you to other notable patrons. Lucius and Toshio can come up with something and then Lucius can introduce him to one or two influential people, who can then promote him into the cultural scene.
re. Thrush: Lucius could easily be a birdkeeper you could bond with a bird in his aviary. Equally I like the image of Toshio waking up in the morning, hearing birdsong and having the bird leap to his hand and speak to him in the first light of dawn - could be a lovely scene!

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Johann is extremely limited in feats, and class abilities, and pretty much everything because the designers decided to make shifters stink, so I can't afford to take a teamwork feat.
For level 3, I am going to take improved grapple which I won't even use much til level 4.
I also get "woodland stride" which lets me go through undergrowth and non-magical brambles without slowing me down. Woot woot?
A major plus: My claws now count as magic, silver, and cold iron for damage reduction purposes.
Thanks so much for the amulet of mighty fists. That is a perfect item.

Arc Perdu le Rouge |

I'm actually struggling a bit with which feats to take. I didn't really factor them into the character I had in mind when I rolled Arc, so any suggestions would be welcome.

Quinlan Ifrean |

I'm leveled, would greatly appreciate a chance to sleep so I can actually start using my new spells. I almost got command undead but i'm not sure how common they will be through the campaign, does it seems worth it to replace something?

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Seems likely we will be the catacombs a lot, could be lots more undead down here...

Zagathoth RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |

@Arc- you have moonlight stalker listed at 3rd, did you decide on that after posting the question or are you thinking about changing it?
@Quinlan- we're going back down into the catacombs, so I would guess the chances of encountering more undead are pretty high. hideous laughter and invisibility are both very useful spells, but command undead can be pretty useful too... if it were me, I'd probably take it instead of hideous laughter (and in the morning pick either color spray or sleep, but not both, and trade out a cantrip for disrupt undead).

Quinlan Ifrean |

Sounds good, i'll grab hideous laughter next level. I rarely play a straight caster so I'm not always sure what is best past a point.

Toshio Okumura |

@Toshio Okumura: down time from adventuring is completely up to the party. As for your thrush familiar, shall I make the alias and RP it, or do you want to make it and RP it?
If you wouldn't feel that I'm burdening you with it, I would love to have you RP the familiar.

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Quick question for the GM: I'm looking at taking a monk level or two in future to shore up my defences a bit more and came across Crusader's Flurry which would be very useful. Would you allow Lucius to have it and simply consider 'Judgements' as the pre-requisite instead of 'Channel Energy'?

Michael Johnson 66 |

Quick question for the GM: I'm looking at taking a monk level or two in future to shore up my defences a bit more and came across Crusader's Flurry which would be very useful. Would you allow Lucius to have it and simply consider 'Judgements' as the pre-requisite instead of 'Channel Energy'?
I’d have to stick with RAW on this, and encourage you to take a level of cleric as well to get the channel energy prerequisite. If you wanted to take that level of cleric for your 3rd level, it’s not too late to do so.

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I’d have to stick with RAW on this, and encourage you to take a level of cleric as well to get the channel energy prerequisite. If you wanted to take that level of cleric for your 3rd level, it’s not too late to do so.
Fair enough - not sure I'm going to multiclass that much though, I'll end up being terrible at everything if I split 3 ways! I'm just trying to keep Lucius using the Longsword, its already a sub-optimal choice really (something 2 handed would be a lot better!) and this would have made it a bit more effective... hmm... maybe a temple ('Church') sword would count as God's favoured weapon too? ;)

Michael Johnson 66 |

Michael Johnson 66 wrote:I’d have to stick with RAW on this, and encourage you to take a level of cleric as well to get the channel energy prerequisite. If you wanted to take that level of cleric for your 3rd level, it’s not too late to do so.Fair enough - not sure I'm going to multiclass that much though, I'll end up being terrible at everything if I split 3 ways! I'm just trying to keep Lucius using the Longsword, its already a sub-optimal choice really (something 2 handed would be a lot better!) and this would have made it a bit more effective... hmm... maybe a temple ('Church') sword would count as God's favoured weapon too? ;)
Yes, any double-edged sword would work as God’s favored weapon.

Boga |

Toshio Okumura wrote:I can certainly introduce you to other notable patrons. Lucius and Toshio can come up with something and then Lucius can introduce him to one or two influential people, who can then promote him into the cultural scene.Perhaps it is time to reveal his dual identity to the party. An idea that springs to mind is a patronage by Cardinal Lucius for Toshio (no need to actually pay him because he'd be in the know, but it would create the desired appearance). I'm not sure that would be a good route to take, however, because a major benefit of this separate identity is being able to be seen as having no connections whatsoever to the party.
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Oh, and we also need to introduce the thrush familiar that I gained with my 2nd level vigilante talent!
Boga has the perform (sing) skill. In his travels he uses this to entertain and bring people together, but he would also like to perform with Toshio if his repertoire lends itself to such.

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Happy to share the universal solvent and sovereign glue!

Zagathoth RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |

Fair enough - not sure I'm going to multiclass that much though, I'll end up being terrible at everything if I split 3 ways! I'm just trying to keep Lucius using the Longsword, its already a sub-optimal choice really (something 2 handed would be a lot better!) and this would have made it a bit more effective... hmm... maybe a temple ('Church') sword would count as God's favoured weapon too? ;)
You can wield a longsword in two hands... it doesn't change the d8 damage die but it does let you use 1.5 Str and the better power attack progression.
Regarding crusader's flurry, it is possible for you to get it without multiclassing but its kind of feat heavy... if you get a familiar (which you could do with 2 feats- iron will and familiar bond) then you should be able to take the adept channeling feat... it would take a while for that all to come online though. Even if you could retrain your 1st level feat it would be: 1- iron will, 3- familiar bond, 5- adept channeling, and 7-crusader's flurry. Alternatively, if the GM would let you do a complete retrain (and you actually wanted to do so) a sacred fist warpriest can take crusader's flurry with their 5th level feat (they qualify with no multiclassing).

Boga |

@Zagathoth -- I came across what seems to be a terrific Brawler feat, Dedicated Adversary
EDIT: By Brawler, I mean for use with Martial Flexibility

Zagathoth |

That is a great feat... any idea where it came from? Also, I have 0 knowledges of any kind so someone would probably have to tell me what kind of creature something was for me to use this, lol.

Boga |

According to Nethys, it comes from Dirty Tactics Toolbox.

Toshio Okumura |

Okay, the profiles for Toshio and the Fox are updated for 3rd level, except that I haven't picked my 2 new 1st-level spells to add to my spell book, or picked my prepared spells for the new day.
If anyone has any spell choice suggestions...I have the wizard spell list, but at the slowed progression of the magus (so no 2nd level spells yet, and I'll max out at 6th level spells).
I gotta say I've felt tempted to dip Unchained Rogue for the free weapon finesse, trapfinding, and extra skill points (4 more than I get from warlock vigilante) along with the additional class skills...but I don't think I would like the delayed access to my social and vigilante talents (not to mention slowing down my spell progression even more). Actually, though, I'd get sneak attack, too, and with as much as I like to flank that would be a very helpful boost to my mystic bolt damage...

Boga |

I have lost track of which pieces are which characters. Please correct me on any inaccuracies below:
- Dagger Wielder -- Lucius
- Horned Head -- Boga
- Red Cape -- Quinlan
- Raised Falchion -- Zagathoth
- Cat(Fox?) Head -- Ogon Fox
- Scythe Wielder -- Arc
- Fisticuffs -- Johann

Michael Johnson 66 |

I have lost track of which pieces are which characters. Please correct me on any inaccuracies below:
- Dagger Wielder -- Lucius
- Horned Head -- Boga
- Red Cape -- Quinlan
- Raised Falchion -- Zagathoth
- Cat(Fox?) Head -- Ogon Fox
- Scythe Wielder -- Arc
- Fisticuffs -- Johann
Dagger wielding drow = Boga
Horned headed satyr = QuinlanFisticuffs = Johann
Red cloak = Lucius
Albino with saber = Arc
Orc with greatsword = Zagathoth
Cat dual weilder = Ogon Fox

Michael Johnson 66 |

Okay, the profiles for Toshio and the Fox are updated for 3rd level, except that I haven't picked my 2 new 1st-level spells to add to my spell book, or picked my prepared spells for the new day.
If anyone has any spell choice suggestions...I have the wizard spell list, but at the slowed progression of the magus (so no 2nd level spells yet, and I'll max out at 6th level spells).
I gotta say I've felt tempted to dip Unchained Rogue for the free weapon finesse, trapfinding, and extra skill points (4 more than I get from warlock vigilante) along with the additional class skills...but I don't think I would like the delayed access to my social and vigilante talents (not to mention slowing down my spell progression even more). Actually, though, I'd get sneak attack, too, and with as much as I like to flank that would be a very helpful boost to my mystic bolt damage...
Shield (+4 shield bonus to AC, stops magic missiles)
GreaseColor Spray
Magic Missile
If you get cantrips as well, light and detect magic are always useful, prestidigitation is tricksy like a Fox...

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Sounds really familiar....
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