We really have to teach you the difference between cuteness and malevolence...oh, this is gonna be fun. ^.^This is true but the squirrels were glaring at me with great malevolence...
And what's wrong with ninjas? Sneaky isn't the same as evil....
Hello Keme?
I agree with you. It shall be... entertaining
Did some totally random research...
ON the plane of fire, you only take 3d10 fire damage a round.
How is ignance's flame so nightmarishly powerful if it acts as a portal to the plane of fire?
Did some totally random research...
ON the plane of fire, you only take 3d10 fire damage a round.
How is ignance's flame so nightmarishly powerful if it acts as a portal to the plane of fire?
however at the court of the lord of flame, he who consumes all... the heat is so intense that creatures immune to fire and dwell on that plane take 1d6 points of damage per round... if you are not immune to fire its a fort save vs death every round and on a successful save you take 25d6 points of damage :) hope that brings a new perspective to it
That's just for being ON the plane... not for any of the other fire that is there.
And there is alot of it.
@treisadin
Fire elementals... Taking fire damage...
Too pissed off to think.
Later.
I'm like an elemental, soaked in fun, wrapped in fur, dipped in awesome and given a generous coating of shiny. :D
Talk to David's Searing Spell feat icehawk :)
Ice you kinda get "pissed beyond words" far too often. :/
Talk to David's Searing Spell feat icehawk :)
Doesn't work on fire elementals or anyone with the fire subtype.
@treisadin
Fire elementals... Taking fire damage...
Too pissed off to think.
Later.
What other methods of punishing his subjects does the lord of fire have?
Talk to David's Searing Spell feat icehawk :)Doesn't work on fire elementals or anyone with the fire subtype.
Doesn't say that. :)
A searing spell is so hot that it ignores the resistance to fire of creatures affected by the spell, and affected creatures with immunity to fire still take half damage. This feat can be applied only to spells with the fire descriptor. Creatures with the cold subtype take double damage from a searing spell. Creatures affected by a searing spell are still entitled to whatever saving throw the spell normally allows. A searing spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level.
What other methods of punishing his subjects does the lord of fire have?@treisadin
Fire elementals... Taking fire damage...
Too pissed off to think.
Later.
Slam attacks. There you go.
Or energy substitution.
Talk to David's Searing Spell feat icehawk :)Doesn't work on fire elementals or anyone with the fire subtype.Doesn't say that. :)
A searing spell is so hot that it ignores the resistance to fire of creatures affected by the spell, and affected creatures with immunity to fire still take half damage. This feat can be applied only to spells with the fire descriptor. Creatures with the cold subtype take double damage from a searing spell. Creatures affected by a searing spell are still entitled to whatever saving throw the spell normally allows. A searing spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level.
Lyn did.
And the version of the feat i found does.
What other methods of punishing his subjects does the lord of fire have?@treisadin
Fire elementals... Taking fire damage...
Too pissed off to think.
Later.Slam attacks. There you go.
Or energy substitution.
Technically the slam attacks deal fire damage because they have no physical form....its all fire
Naw, slams still deal bludgeoning, but have the Burn quality.
Naw, slams still deal bludgeoning, but have the Burn quality.
Yeah I know but still think about it.... A semi solid chunk of fire hits another semi solid chunk of fire....
I have 100+ bezerk buttons. I can't even remember them all.
Have fun finding them when you don't want to.
Naw, slams still deal bludgeoning, but have the Burn quality.Yeah I know but still think about it.... A semi solid chunk of fire hits another semi solid chunk of fire....
Yeah. But think about it-
Fire burning fire.Now, if the fire ran on a fuel scorch, this could work- but fire elementals have no fuel.
Naw, slams still deal bludgeoning, but have the Burn quality.Yeah I know but still think about it.... A semi solid chunk of fire hits another semi solid chunk of fire....
Yeah. But think about it-
Fire burning fire.
Now, if the fire ran on a fuel scorch, this could work- but fire elementals have no fuel.
Think of it like this, the "physical"part of the fire elemental is an "everburning" fuel...
When exposed to the lord of fire's flames their "fuel" starts being consumed
No. It's just wrong.
Can't talk me out of this.
You can't.
Burn.
Fire elementals.
:claws his eyes out:
Phew!
No. It's just wrong.
Can't talk me out of this.
You can't.
Burn.
Fire elementals.
Just like you can't drown fish...
Except you can...
and if you have that big of a problem with stuff like this....
Why play fantasy games?
No. It's just wrong.
Can't talk me out of this.
You can't.
Burn.
Fire elementals.
Sir!
I am certain in /your/ reality, it works just the way you envision it.
However-- by agreeing to play with 'crazy' 3.5 Edition Feats and rules (which suck, IMHO), reality alters to the word of the game, not to any definition your mind set accepts as 'true'.
Therefore, either you accept the game system's rules, or you sit off to the side and rage. :)
I will point out, however, that Pathfinder, does /not/ have these insane idiotic feats, as far as I can tell, where Fire burns Fire.
:waves off 3.5: Shoo! Bad game system. Insane. Shoo! Twinks use you! Scat!
Aren't your eyes in a jar somewhere?
Aren't your eyes in a jar somewhere?
Depends on my mood.
Is it the one with the dog on top or the bird?
No. It's just wrong.
Can't talk me out of this.
You can't.
Burn.
Fire elementals.Sir!
I am certain in /your/ reality, it works just the way you envision it.
However-- by agreeing to play with 'crazy' 3.5 Edition Feats and rules (which suck, IMHO), reality alters to the word of the game, not to any definition your mind set accepts as 'true'.
Therefore, either you accept the game system's rules, or you sit off to the side and rage. :)
I will point out, however, that Pathfinder, does /not/ have these insane idiotic feats, as far as I can tell, where Fire burns Fire.
:waves off 3.5: Shoo! Bad game system. Insane. Shoo! Twinks use you! Scat!
The subject we were discussing was the lord of fire's flame (in his home at the heart of the plane of fire)
Would deal damage to fire immune things
Funny, cause lyn won't let searing spell work on fire subtypes.
I went over this when i made igni...
Or I misinterpreted something.
Ending this now.
Just know that...
Energy substitution. Same cost as a meta magic, more effective, less stupid.
Funny, cause lyn won't let searing spell work on fire subtypes.
I went over this when i made igni...
Or I misinterpreted something.
Ending this now.
Just know that...
Energy substitution. Same cost as a meta magic, more effective, less stupid.
Because the lord of the elemental plane of fire casting a cold spell makes a ton more sense....
Slam doesn't matter what hits what. It's like falling ...it's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the bottom. A slam attack hurts like that.
As far as Ignace and her fire problem:
1. Rules light
2. She's a portal to the plane of fire. Not to a tourist section of the plane of fire. Need to check the rules for going for a swim in lava, but its closer to that I think than to just the normal damage for the plane of fire.
3. I never said her fire hurt those immune to fire.
4. Chill. See point one. :)
Lava- 20d6.
Now, i wasn't talking about ignance doing that...
Just fire subtypes being harmed by fire is one of my bezerk buttons.
I'm over it.
At least, i won't say anything.
Lava deals 20d6 I think....
Because the lord of the elemental plane of fire casting a cold spell makes a ton more sense....Actually... yeah, it kinda does. The most damaging thing on the plane of fire, to those living there anyway, is cold. The lord would basical be bringing a machine gun to a fist fight.
Except on the plane of fire its like bringing a popgun that works half the time...
Is it the one with the dog on top or the bird?
Not telling.
Actually, WATER spell are hindered there.
Not cold.
Actually, WATER spell are hindered there.
Not cold.
And throwing a cone of cold would go *fisht* and evaporate instantly
Well, you...
Never mind. I'm not even going into thermodynamics.
Well, you...
Never mind. I'm not even going into thermodynamics.
Let me guess.... You want to explain all magic too...
My motto is-
"Exept where the laws of physics are stated to be broken, they apply to magic."
Now, that said, i find the fire thing annoying, but like i said, I'll stop talking about it.
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Then I bet you weren't expecting....[lifts skirt]
Ah! Oh God!
...[and draws dagger] this!
Oh okay then....
First off, I'm currenty out at trivia. Should be home soon.
2) The Winter Witch, a PF PrC, has an ability at 8th level that lets you deal half the damage of cold spells to even creatures with immunity.
3) The Lord of the Plane of Fire is akin to a god, but more powerful. Though in context to this game, not more powerful than a patron.
Going back to AD&D, beings of that power level can affect beings that have immunity, with whatever they happen to be immune to.
Its no longer about fire burning fire. Its more about a being immensely more powerful than even super high level mortals. Divine Rank is a b%!#~ kids.
I don't see that ability under the PF Winter Witch MG.
@FireclawDrake:
First off, I'm currenty out at trivia. Should be home soon.
2) The Winter Witch, a PF PrC, has an ability at 8th level that lets you deal half the damage of cold spells to even creatures with immunity.
3) The Lord of the Plane of Fire is akin to a god, but more powerful. Though in context to this game, not more powerful than a patron.
Going back to AD&D, beings of that power level can affect beings that have immunity, with whatever they happen to be immune to.
Its no longer about fire burning fire. Its more about a being immensely more powerful than even super high level mortals. Divine Rank is a b!@+$ kids.
:) Monkey... is the mary going to respond positively to threat?
*yawn*
I'm gonna try to sleep now. I'm gonna be available most of tomorrow. Later in the day I'm going to see The Legend of Zelda: Symphony of the Goddesses. It's (as you can guess) the orchestrated version of the music from the games in a concert. Super excited. :D
Death Keeper-- just remember who's 'watching' the show and commenting.
:)
Not your local person, for sure.
Death Keeper-- just remember who's 'watching' the show and commenting.
:)
Not your local person, for sure.
I remember who is... I'm just saying... that's not quite the impression I want to give
I remember who is... I'm just saying... that's not quite the impression I want to giveDeath Keeper-- just remember who's 'watching' the show and commenting.
:)
Not your local person, for sure.
Just his interpretation. Plus he's not Marketing minded at all.