[Savage Worlds] A Necessary Evil (Inactive)

Game Master Peanuts

Ah, blame it on senility (or flip flopping attributes willy nilly then not going back to double check). Dropping Notice two and Gambling one and putting the spare into Knowledge(history).

Being someone's b-butler doesn't sound do bad. :). Not NPC, though...

Preference to the ladies, characters if not players. He's still a sucker for a damsel... villainous or otherwise.

Working on books and back history, thinking test pilot.

With smarts at d6 the whole research assistant angle seemed a little out of line (not that nitwits don't get those gigs), and the important thing is that she learned to make the mask herself. Why? Because the power resides in her, not the mask, despite her beliefs. She's a very confused young serial killer.

Grampa was sort of the shortest distance between two plot points, and he makes the whole thing more personal.

Re: crunch, I added a die of survival (probably not a critical skill in this campaign, but it seemed to fit her growing up hunting and heading out into the wilds and all). Also adding her starting arsenal ... er ... gear. Which brings me to my next question: Does her gear duplicate when she does? The SPC is very clearly silent on this point.

Belledonna: The stun power that modifier basically changes it from a physical assault to a mental one, so it's a bit different to what you're asking... Hmm, I'd say +1 if you just wanted to use spirit, +2 if you wanted to attack their spirit, +3 for both (and either will affect the trapping/flavour of the power. It's not so much psychic powers as actually manipulating their soul (or using your soul/person to affect them)).

EDIT: I've just realized I've been forgetting about the free edge from being human, if you wanted to be truly ridiulous, you could take Charismatic for another +2 Charisma ;) You also seem to have spent one too many skill points (going from a d10 Persuasion to a d12 costs two points, as it is going above the associated attribute).

Charismatic was on my shopping list actually. I have updated the sheet to reflect the changes, I.E. now have Charismatic & Taunt is now d8...

Regarding the Spirit vs. Spirit 'flavor'...
I don't know if I'm appalled or intrigued...
The idea that Isabelle is literally corrupting/attacking their soul definitely ramps her up to full blown Villain status...
Unfortunately I just don't have the juice to start there...
I originally was only thinking about using my Spirit in the test, rather than Smarts, but that may be just too tempting...
I/We will need to come up with a good reason in-game how the change would occur as well (possibly some dark, sorcerous, ritual to transmogrify her into some manner of Demoness, probably with Professor Mayhem's assistance/urging), but definitely tempting...

@Black Thom: It would certainly be Belledonna's style...
Except for the implicit 'taking advantage of another's weakness' part (Yes, I realize there isn't a lot of difference between Mind Control & simple Persuasion when you have a total Persuasion pool like hers...
Which is how she has a Minion) & the fact that she has been in a coma pretty much since the initial wave of the invasion...
On the other hand, given her Instincts, the potential for Irony when a genuine Villain is berating the ex-hero for not saving the innocent bystanders is almost worth the price of admission right there...
I will try whipping up a Super-soldier/Test-pilot/wheelman & post it, then you can see how well you like it.

@Masque: A d6 Smarts just means you are Average, I think, not a nit-wit. You won't be winning any spelling bees, but you are still quite capable of taking part in them.

@Poor Wandering One: How about Devil's Advocate for a Nom du Crime? Historically the term originated in the Catholic Church as the guy who's job it was to prove the miracles performed by candidates for Sainthood weren't really miracles. Given that he seems to be, in part, trying to prove that his target's aren't really that good...

@Mus'ad: Berserk, Brawny or Brawler would definitely fit your concept I think.

Regarding the Spirit vs. Spirit 'flavor'...

I don't know if I'm appalled or intrigued...
The idea that Isabelle is literally corrupting/attacking their soul definitely ramps her up to full blown Villain status...
Unfortunately I just don't have the juice to start there...
I originally was only thinking about using my Spirit in the test, rather than Smarts, but that may be just too tempting...
I/We will need to come up with a good reason in-game how the change would occur as well (possibly some dark, sorcerous, ritual to transmogrify her into some manner of Demoness, probably with Professor Mayhem's assistance/urging), but definitely tempting...

Could also be a natural outgrowth of her delusion, no? Some sort of trauma pushes her deeper into her own fantasy and her force of personality just kinda starts overwriting not just other peoples' outward views, but their self image. Emotional healing for her isn't just a personal thing, it's polite to share...

@Belladonna ... So you're saying average people aren't nitwits in the future? :P (But really, you're right, she very well could be a research assistant. I've seen PhDs who definitely have a d4 or less in Smarts, but I like to do backgrounds that emphasize where a character is exceptional, rather than simply average.)
Also, for a more villainous feel, consider fear, rather than stun, which does target spirit and has a more random outcome than just shaken. I'm thinking if it looks like this I think it fits nicely with your character concept.

@Bad Penny: I think your idea may in fact be scarier than mine. <3 <3 <3

@Masque: Actually, I think your definition of nit-wit & my definition of nit-wit don't quite match. Regarding the others...
Well, eventually Belledonna is going to have a big toolbox, but yeah, I can definitely see her being that at some point if she survives that long. Especially if she goes the way Bad Penny was describing.

Hey GM-Peanut! Working on a character crunch for Black Thom reminded me, is it possible to remove/change Hindrances over time? For instance possibly have Belledonna remove her Delusion if presented with sufficient evidence it is a Delusion, or perhaps replace it with something like Vow (re-build the world into the Utopia of my dreams)?

Am I the only one who sees the likely hood of a three-way power dynamic between Belledonna & Professor Mayhem (With Bad Penny playing tie-breaker/occasional third option)?
Not intended to belittle anyone else's characters, but those three are the ones reading to me as the ones who will 'move & shake' so-to-speak.

Poor Wandering One: The villain names are a bit unimaginative, but other than that he sounds okay :p A hacker/technical type character will probably do well :)

Yes the name needs work. Really an off the cuff play on Anonymous. Will give it more thought...

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Or I will listen to my teammates... 'Devil's Advocate' is a nice name. Devil is focused on exposing, breaking and ultimately killing those targets who earn his ire so it fits. 'Instant Karma' is another idea but that sounds a)like a Japanese new wave retro band and b) more reactive where it is the place of evil to be active.

I don't normally go with tech/gear characters but we have a heavy magic theme so hopefully I can help balance it out. Might even play up the occult image as cover...

Belladonna. Thanks for the name drop. It might just work. I see you and Devil working closely together perhaps even having pulled off some jobs in the past. You have the soft interpersonal touch the Advocate lacks. Perhaps Devil was involved in getting you past security for your banking adventure?

I see you and Devil working closely together perhaps even having pulled off some jobs in the past. You have the soft interpersonal touch the Advocate lacks. Perhaps Devil was involved in getting you past security for your banking adventure?

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Poor Wandering One wrote:

I see you and Devil working closely together perhaps even having pulled off some jobs in the past. You have the soft interpersonal touch the Advocate lacks. Perhaps Devil was involved in getting you past security for your banking adventure?

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Reading your background I was also suspecting something along those lines. Of course the two of us unquestionably get/have gotten into heated arguments/debates/tirades regarding victims/casualties/bystanders.
Unless I misread, 'Devil' doesn't have nearly the problem with killing that Belledonna does.

Not even close to a problem

Hindrances:

Major.
Greedy. My enemies will fall and I will grow fat on their carcasses.
Curious. Why yes, I would like to play a game. (Super Karma)

Minor.
Heartless. *voice from security phone* "Do you know how hard it is to get all the safety features on a modern elevator to fail? I do." *click*
Loyal. Never burn your friends. It is what separates us from them.

Mind you he generally does not bother to kill in person. Technology is so prevalent and interconnected that he mainly kills by remote. A change on a medical record. A stuck electronic lock and exhaust rerouted through the hvac system. The invasion really cramped his style. At least until he manages to hack the V'sori's network.

Speaking of which...

GM-Peanuts How are you running hacking devices? Can one hack a blaster rifle for example. A tank or giant robot? Can it be done at range using Broadcast (manipulation) I am trying to find the line where Interface (codebreaker) shades into Malfunction. Though I suppose I should just get them both.

Black Thom: Fair enough. I could have had fun with that though :)

Masque: Yeah there's no problems with it. I myself had the mysterious grandfather in my backstory when I played the campaign ;) Think the crunch looks fine (though haven't fact checked the gear admittedly)

If you're asking if her gear goes intangible/invisible with her, then yes, though if she picks things up while invisible, then they won't necessarily (she would have to flip the power off and on again to 'reset' it). Unfortunately she does not have to run around in the buff. ;)

Belledonna: *chuckles*

I'm sure there could be other interpretations of using spirit/attacking spirit, but that was what came to mind, so if you want to go with it then do so. On second consideration +2 to attack their spirit might be a bit harsh, so you could target spirit for +1, but the +2 version would probably get you some... extras depending on the power ;) It'd be something similar to the Elemental Tricks, but... darker.

Either way I'm sure we can work something into things in game to explain. Comic books are full of 'radiation accidents' and the like which add/subtract/alter abilities.

Bad Penny: I like the way you think :)

Masque again: Nice link, definitely appropriate.

Belledonna again: Yes it is possible to remove or alter hindrances. It's primarily done through roleplaying, but if you want to get rid of it completely then you'll need to spend your next advance to buy it off, otherwise as you suggested you can swap it out for something else as appropriate.

As to the character, he feels a little generic, I'm sure he'd do pretty well, but just spending all of his abilities on super stats, skills and edges leaves him a bit bland. Guess we'll see what Black Thom thinks of it.

Poor Wandering One: Hadn't given it a whole lot of thought until now, but I'd say this setting is fairly different to something like shadowrun where everyone has their own PAN and everything is wireless. Blaster Rifles at range, probably not so much, tanks and robots you might have more luck, but V'Sori and Fin tech being alien is always going to be more difficult unless you get your hands on something special.

All Broadcast lets you do is muck around with signals (tv, radio, etc), as written it won't actually help you with hacking, it's more for what I described in the first post, Doctor Destruction using it to interrupt TV and send his own messages, or make the news anchors appear to do funny things). Interface and Malfunction are different things too.

To the crunch! Device says it applies after modifiers, so I'd say you only get -1 for Device to the broadcast power :p Invent is a nice versatile power. I want to say you can use something other than Spirit for you manipulation, but I'm not sure what. The easiest would be to allow you to use Smarts instead as a +1 Modifier (similar to what I offered Belledonna), so that's available to you if you want.

As to the character, he feels a little generic, I'm sure he'd do pretty well, but just spending all of his abilities on super stats, skills and edges leaves him a bit bland. Guess we'll see what Black Thom thinks of it.

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You can't stop the signal.

I do see Professor Mayhem being a "mover & shaker" type of guy. I tweaking the crunch a bit still, but should try to get something up tonight.

Ummmm Device is -1 per 5 points after modifiers. Broadcast is 1, manipulation is 5. Total 6pts which is a -2 for device. Slow activation applies after the device mod. At least the text "Subtract one additional point...." seems to say that. {NE/ex p38}

Not sure what you mean about using something other than spirit for manipulation. Do you mean for malfunction?

Ah so no wedding broadcast (2x extra range), to interface (codebreaker) and commandeering V'sori warships in low earth orbit. Or de-orbiting communication satellites as improvised kinetic-kill weapons. Sigh, martials never get the best toys.... :7)

Still being able to intercept and alter communication signals is a rather impressive power considering how many things use radio spectra. It was recently proven possible to remotely hack pacemakers that use radio to recharge for example. But I understand this is not shadowrun and will focus accordingly.

Downloading Super Powers to phone now... Like the concept, amnesia easy enough to throw in. Juicer... Typically not my thing, but you had no way of knowing.

Is there something that allows a symbiotic relationship to vehicles? Either by touch or via jack/interface?

Arcmagik: Cool, looking forward to it.

Poor Wandering One: Hmmm, I can see that interpretation. I'll allow it ;) No, no such luck. I'd say Broadcast could allow you to do things such as alter feeds, jam signals (this would be more of a focused jam, requiring him to locate the source or something similar before he could block it. Iif you want an area jam you'd have to buy something like that as a modifier), send false signals, stuff like that. You'd probably never need to worry about not having a cell signal or a wireless connection (as long as you're somewhere urban anyway) too.

Black Thom: The Interface power gives you a +4 to rolls dealing with electronics that you can touch :) and there is the vehicle power to allow you to get expensive vehicles (I think it's up to $500,000 for 3 points, which can include a flying car), and you can buy powers for vehicles too. Not really symbiotic (although you could potentially give yourself a hindrance like that), but you could make an intelligent car like kit from knight rider if you wanted. Hell, you could play a transformer or something like that if you really wanted :p (Construct, some levels of Growth with the "Monster" modifier so it's permanent, and the Vehicle power would do the basic abilities)

Black Thom you are looking for the power "Interface" or the power "Vehicle" or perhaps the Gm will come up with something somewhere between them.

GM Speaking of interface does the bonus it gives to computers and electronics apply to the roll for Malfunction when effecting higher-tech devices?

I'd say Broadcast could allow you to do things such as alter feeds, jam signals (this would be more of a focused jam, requiring him to locate the source or something similar before he could block it. Iif you want an area jam you'd have to buy something like that as a modifier), send false signals, stuff like that. You'd probably never need to worry about not having a cell signal or a wireless connection (as long as you're somewhere urban anyway) too.

Sending false signals to the satellite is all I would need to de-orbit it on a predetermined path. But doing that is not in genre so I will leave the orbiting bombs alone.

GM Speaking of interface does the bonus it gives to computers and electronics apply to the roll for Malfunction when effecting higher-tech devices?

Uhh, I'm going to go with yes for now, but we'll see how abusable that becomes in play :p It would require him to touch the device in question.

Sending false signals to the satellite is all I would need to de-orbit it on a predetermined path. But doing that is not in genre so I will leave the orbiting bombs alone.

You could potentially do stuff like that, but it wouldn't exactly be simple, even with your powers :)

Poor Wandering One wrote:

GM Speaking of interface does the bonus it gives to computers and electronics apply to the roll for Malfunction when effecting higher-tech devices?

Uhh, I'm going to go with yes for now, but we'll see how abusable that becomes in play :p It would require him to touch the device in question.

Cool beans. Technically there is no touch requirement for interface but this ruling makes sense. Hmmmm now how to give interface range..... Something like a +2/+3 modifier?

Poor Wandering One wrote:

Sending false signals to the satellite is all I would need to de-orbit it on a predetermined path. But doing that is not in genre so I will leave the orbiting bombs alone.

You could potentially do stuff like that, but it wouldn't exactly be simple, even with your powers :)

Well if it were simple it wouldn't be worth doing.

Belladonna: Tie breaker suits Bad Penny just fine. He functions best in an advisory role anyway. If he were in charge who would he complain about?

Just want to say, I love the characters that are coming up, and I hope this game gets off the ground (and that I'm along for the ride) because it looks like an awesome group.

As far as the group dynamics, Anne-Marie finds the necessity of working with evil people on her crusade distasteful, but necessary. Of course, by now she will probably know that the V'sori are in league with the Black Council. Of course, if a power struggle were to develop, and she got the notion from somewhere that a member of the Black Council had infiltrated the group, well... she's a pretty handy assassin, as it turns out.

Not that anyone in this group would manipulate her paranoid delusions to turn her into the knife in anyone's back. We're all friends here ... aren't we?

No no one would create a complex web of false paperwork, web trails, and video footage to lead her down the garden path.

Oh and as far as I can see duplication duplicates all your gear.

So I looked at the spoiler I'm a baddie.

Not that anyone in this group would manipulate her paranoid delusions to turn her into the knife in anyone's back. We're all friends here ... aren't we?

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"Oh, absolutely!"

In all honesty, it goes with Belledonna's obnoxiously 'heroic' tendencies that she would, in fact, be trying to defuse Anne-Marie's Paranoid delusions/impulses...
At least the ones she recognized as Paranoid. They do have certain similarities of world-view after all...
At the same time, I'm reminded of the adage 'Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean the world isn't out to get you...'

Reviewing powers/gear in the book. I'm just enamored with the idea of hopping into any 'vehicle' and being proficient and able to squeeze more out of it.

Motorcycle, TRON light cycle, car, hovercraft, AIRWOLF, SR-71 Blackbird, exo-suit, glitter boy, GUNDAM, etc...

How does 'Out of my League' work, or would it?

And, Belladonna... I accept, just trying to tweak.

@Black Thom: No worries.

If 'Out of my League' is what I think it is, it means you have (and get) fewer Power Points to work with. Not only do you start with fewer Power Points, you get fewer later when you take the Edge again. I was thinking something similar when I first started working on my Character idea, then took a longer look.

Right now, as far as being able to drive/pilot/fly anything, that is kind of what Ace lets you do, the only thing else might be to take the Gifted Power, which conveniently is only one Point. Gifted means you never take non-proficiency penalties on skill checks, even if you don't technically have the skill in question.

Mus'ad is aware that he has an extra Hindrance that doesn't give any benefit, but the drawbacks suit the character and I might even throw an extra one in there if there is something that fits the bill.

I've been travelling, but here is a bullet point fluff background (which I will expand upon:

• Born into the disputed area of the Kashmir.
  
• Lived a rural agrarian life until one fateful day at the Rural Olympics in the Punjab (a real event).
  
• While wrestling the other Pelhwan, his powers started to manifest and he not only beat, but killed all comers.
  
• At first this was met with horror, but when he threatened those who would not give him his prize, he was appeased with money and women.
  
• Over the next decade he established himself as a local warlord by killing those who opposed him in single combat, often crushing their heads between his hands.
  
• Though the governments of both India and Pakistan deplored his actions - the delicate nature of the Kashmir rendered them unwilling to deploy forces against him.
  
• When the fins came, Mus'ad saw his chance and marched on Delhi itself - ruling over it's ruins with a bloodied fist for many months before the coming of the V'sori gave the Indian government enough pause to turn upon him and capture him.
  
• Although he was to be put to death immediately... his sentence was put on hold while Pakistan pursued their right to try Mus'ad through the United Nations.
  
• I would imagine Dr Destruction pulled him out as he saw a useful tool in him.

Masque: Ahh, duplication. Yes, it would duplicate any gear you are carrying, but as soon as it leaves the 5" bubble around you where the duplicate can exist then it starts to uhh... decorp-... disi-... stop existing. Bullets will last long enough to hit and hurt the target, but something like a grenade may not work so well. I'd probably rule it on a case-by-case basis.

Black Thom: As Belledonna says, the Ace give you +2 to any vehicle rolls, and a +2 in Savage Worlds is fairly powerful (it's halfway to success right there). The character sheet that Belledonna posted you'd have a d10+2 in Piloting (any aircraft) and Driving (any car/truck/wheeled vehicle), the only vehicle skill she hasn't given you is Boating.

Out of my League is as Belledonna said, it gives you less power points both to start with, and each time you take the Power Points edge. As a minor hindrance you start with 8 and power points gives you 4 (max starting of 16), as a major hindrance you'd start with 6 and power points gives you 3 (max starting of 12). I wouldn't really suggest this hindrance, but if you want to emphasize that he's more 'normal' then go for it.

Mus'ad: Hmmm, you lot aren't making it easy for me to get you all into place for the opening mission. I'll warn everyone that I may have to take some liberties with their recent history to shoehorn you into the opening plot :p

One other thing I'd like to comment on is the Beliefs people have. The instincts generally look acceptable, but one thing about beliefs is that they are meant to have some sort of actionable component to it, some sort of goal. It's all well and good to have a belief that SoCorp are a%#&!&*s, but a more appropriate belief would be something like this:

"Jerry Perez's private army are always getting in the way, I will take them down a notch by (blowing up their headquarters, setting an ambush for Lieutenant so-and-so, empty their bank accounts, steal the incoming V'Sori shipment, etc.) to show them who's really in charge in this city."

A similar goal would be simply to take down SoCorp, but this is not something you're going to be able to accomplish quickly, so you should break it down into achievable steps like above.

The reason for this is that I will be using Beliefs and Instincts to grant additional bennies and experience. If a belief or instinct causes you trouble, that's a benny, if you achieve a meaningful step towards your current goal, that's a benny, if you complete a current goal, that's +1 XP for your character :)

Beliefs and Instincts can be changed at any time, though try to keep them meaningful to your character, rather than just changing it to whatever the current task is to get free bennies. Instincts probably shouldn't change too often.

Someone had asked about how I was going to do initiative. In the interest of keeping the Fast Furious Fun flavour of Savage Worlds, I'm going to stick with cards. I will use a deck at home and draw from that and post what I draw for you guys.

So our current roster (Mostly completed/fleshed out):

Arcmagik - Super Sorcerer - Crunch in progress
Mus'ad - Brick
Masque - Assassin
Belledonna - Mastermind?
Black Thom - High Powered 'Normal' - Crunch in progress
Poor Wandering One - Hacker/Techie - Crunch in progress
Bad Penny - Uppity, crotchety Henchman

Expressed Interest:

Onyx - Monitoring the time stream, time powers
rashly5 - Chaotic Evil

Hmm, well I was aiming for around 6 people for the group, so what does everyone think about closing recruitment here? If anyone has not expressed their interest in this campaign yet, then now is the time to do so.

Do we start in New York? - Mus'ad could have been transferred there under United Nations mandate while the Pakistanis and Indians fought over who got to execute me?

I resent the term 'Brick'.... I prefer 'Angry Wall of Meat' :P

I'm aware that I still owe ye Beliefs and Instincts as well.

I'm happy to close recruitment here if you are GM Peanuts.

Silly question... Will we be advancing in game (adding powers) and is there a difference in cost in-game?

@ GM-Peanut: Awesome. Bullets make it and anything bigger/slower may or may not. That is perfect.
1"=2 yards, right?
Also, will check my beliefs to bring them into benny-able status.

Masque wrote:

Not that anyone in this group would manipulate her paranoid delusions to turn her into the knife in anyone's back. We're all friends here ... aren't we?

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*Innocent eyes*

"Oh, absolutely!"

In all honesty, it goes with Belledonna's obnoxiously 'heroic' tendencies that she would, in fact, be trying to defuse Anne-Marie's Paranoid delusions/impulses...
At least the ones she recognized as Paranoid. They do have certain similarities of world-view after all...
At the same time, I'm reminded of the adage 'Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean the world isn't out to get you...'

I hope I've made it very clear that I (as a player) DO NOT want to know if the Black Council exists, if they are a part of a grand conspiracy (when they could be just a couple of pretentious WoD LARPers in Des Moines), or if they are connected to the V'sori. I really enjoy the idea of playing her as though all these things are true. In Masque's reality, the danger is real, and tremendous, and she is saving the world from the most insidious conspiracy ever. If DM-Peanuts enjoys the irony of her being correct or if he prefers seeing her murder innocents, or some patchwork of right and psychotic, it's all the same.

So our current roster (Mostly completed/fleshed out):

Arcmagik - Super Sorcerer - Crunch in progress
Mus'ad - Brick
Masque - Assassin
Belledonna - Mastermind?
Black Thom - High Powered 'Normal' - Crunch in progress
Poor Wandering One - Hacker/Techie - Crunch in progress
Bad Penny - Uppity, crotchety Henchman

Expressed Interest:

Onyx - Monitoring the time stream, time powers
rashly5 - Chaotic Evil

Hmm, well I was aiming for around 6 people for the group, so what does everyone think about closing recruitment here? If anyone has not expressed their interest in this campaign yet, then now is the time to do so.

I really like what I have seen so far, so personally I have no issues with closing recruitment now.

I resent the term 'Brick'.... I prefer 'Angry Wall of Meat' :P

I read that & about pee'd myself.

Silly question... Will we be advancing in game (adding powers) and is there a difference in cost in-game?

Once gameplay starts Character advancement is kind of a mix between leveling (like Pathfinder/3.5, etc...) and a more 'skills-based' (i.e. Storyteller, GURPS, etc...) system.

We should be able to acquire an HQ? Until then, no point having vehicles. Also, is beating someone and taking their stuff/items have to be bought? Or can you now use their stuff, w/powers it has?

Just nuances... So as not to be cornered, development wise.

@ Black Thom: In a typical tabletop game, you gain 2-3xp in a session. Every 5 xp you get an advance, which could be an edge, a new skill, a couple of dice to existing skills, one dice to an ability score, removing a hindrance, or ... I think that's about it. There are 5 ranks (novice, seasoned, veteran, heroic, legendary) that open up new edges (legendary edges look awesome, but I've never played a game that reached that level) and you get a new rank every 20 xp. You can only raise an ability score once each rank, and you can only buy power points once each rank.

The character sheets that come in the book have a column to show the advancements and ranks.

@ All, but particularly SW noobs: this

Ooh, very useful, definitely going into my SW file.

The advancement 'Wishlist' is not a bad idea. It will help me figure out how soon I can 'pay' for switching Isabelle from mere 'mind-twisting mortal' to 'soul-shattering scion of sin'!

Alliteration is fun.

re: Beating and taking. Normal loot, the stuff made without using powers and the device limitation, is free for the taking. Assuming you either have the cash or the strength to take it. With the alien invasion the definition of 'Normal loot' has expanded to include things like blaster weapons and spaceships but these are rather harder to get than the uzi the street thug is waving in your face.

Re HQ. There is a power called "lair" cost 1 +1 for secure access, +1 escape pod, +1 per research lab/medical bay, +1 for well hidden. We might want to toss a point each or so into this at some point. The power explicitly states multiple characters can contribute to the same lair. The lair can also have powers attached to it like staff (minions), or automated guns (ranged attack). In the meantime I can pull a bolt-hole out of my hat given about half an hour.
{invent 3. Lair(1) Secure access(+1) Well hidden(+1)} Trapping. A few small devices to alarm and secure an otherwise unoccupied/ruined building. Plus a bit of work to tap into utilities without being detected and set some expert systems to send searchers and local patrols down blind alleys.

In the meantime I can pull a bolt-hole out of my hat given about half an hour.

{invent 3. Lair(1) Secure access(+1) Well hidden(+1)} Trapping. A few small devices to alarm and secure an otherwise unoccupied/ruined building. Plus a bit of work to tap into utilities without being detected and set some expert systems to send searchers and local patrols down blind alleys.

I knew there was a reason Isabelle hadn't left you to be arrested after any of a number of 'collateral damage' arguments...

GM-Peanut: I updated the character sheet to reflect the changes to her powers, would you take a look & make sure it is still legal?

I just re-read the Core Book & there is a 'New Power' Arcane Edge that gives you a new Power. Am I correct in guessing that is replaced completely by the Power Points Edge with it's inherent limitations?

Re: HQ ... our super sorcerer also should be able to pull an emergency HQ out of his ... er ... hat in a pinch. Not that his priorities would necessarily include that.
I'd be good with throwing a point or two into a permanent HQ, though, if we all agreed to pitch in equally. After all, it's been a day since I've tweaked my build. If you don't count the whole advancement planning thing.

Masque wrote:

@ All, but particularly SW noobs: this

Ooh, very useful, definitely going into my SW file.

The advancement 'Wishlist' is not a bad idea. It will help me figure out how soon I can 'pay' for switching Isabelle from mere 'mind-twisting mortal' to 'soul-shattering scion of sin'!

Alliteration is fun.

Starting characters in Savage Worlds are incredibly weak by most rpg's standards. In fact, they are typically equivalent to average humans, except for their Wild Card status, so I usually build a starting character with advancements in mind, because you just can't start with all the goodies you want.

This in less true in Supers games where we start with a healthy array of super powers, it's worth mentioning.

GM-Peanut: I updated the character sheet to reflect the changes to her powers, would you take a look & make sure it is still legal?

I just reread the Core Book & there is a 'New Power' Arcane Edge that gives you a new Power. Am I correct in guessing that is replaced completely by the Power Points Edge with it's inherent limitations?

Yup the NE style superpowers edge pretty much does away with all those power edges.

GM
Removed the broadcast device. It just was not worth the investment. Invent can build it if needed or hell we can break into a tv studio.
Taking an awareness device, another point in super skills and Gifted.

Still working on gear, sorry for the delay

btw all...Thoughts on Nemesis as a name?

Rashly. Hmmmm some overlap with Nemesis/Devil's Advocate. Though you are more anarchistic .....

Man, I should have read the thread more thoroughly beforehand. I have a mask-centric character too.

In any case: <Kay "Criminal" Locke>

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Re: HQ ... our super sorcerer also should be able to pull an emergency HQ out of his ... er ... hat in a pinch. Not that his priorities would necessarily include that.

I'd be good with throwing a point or two into a permanent HQ, though, if we all agreed to pitch in equally. After all, it's been a day since I've tweaked my build. If you don't count the whole advancement planning thing.

hmmmm strip a point out now or wait til seasoned for a true lair. It will be a pain but I am leaning toward waiting. I could be convinced though...

Starting characters in Savage Worlds are incredibly weak by most rpg's standards. In fact, they are typically equivalent to average humans, except for their Wild Card status, so I usually build a starting character with advancements in mind, because you just can't start with all the goodies you want.

This in less true in Supers games where we start with a healthy array of super powers, it's worth mentioning.

I'd say starting characters are quite a bit tougher than that. Three times as durable (wild card, bennies) and highly competent (odds on getting a success with d4-2 + d6 wild die are not that bad plus bennies). Add in edges and AB's and I would put a raw novice SW character at about 3rd level pathfinder.

Added Gear to Sheet.

@Belledonna - do you have a pad? Am I crashing there? All in jail, all pads taken away?

Per the first post this thread we at least have cuffs on. Likely nullifiers since it mentioned "..powers useless..". Things look dark for team evil.