Holy hell, the reindeer is named Sven? SCORE!
If no one posts any serious shopping plans or discusses their plans on assaulting the tower, I'm going to move plot along and just plop you on its doorstep tomorrow night, lol.
I just don't want the game to bog down during shopping/planning. This took nearly an entire night at my RL game and it was painful to be a part of, don't want that here.
excessively busy day today, sorry folks. should be less busy tomorrow.
as for planning, i say move us along.
Ankih's idea of a plan is pretty much to agree, verbally , with the fighter types, then heal 'em up afterword.
cool. wasn't really thinking that, but might be subconsciously doing it. I liked that movie.
I don't want to belabor the planning process either, I'm a bit busy and would only slow things down.
We get Avora's sight back - then do we dress up as guards and try to bluff our way in? Or sneak over the wall somehow?
I vote sneak over/assault the wall. Thus the grappling hook in my shopping list. I figure we sweep the two up there, with ranged weapons or sneak up and climb.
Gil makes some good points - potions would be good. Some CLW, vermin repellant, alchemist fire all sound good.
What are the limitations on what you can make and how many, Gil? I am not very familiar with the alchemist class.
I can make any potion that I have in my formula book, so I have access to the following:
Ant Haul
Comprehend Languages
Crafter's Fortune
Cure Light Wounds
Disguise Self
Endure Elements
Enlarge Person
Expeditious Retreat
Identify
Shield
He can also learn spells from wizard spellbooks to make potions for, but we don't have a wizard, just a screwy gnome who somehow manages to cast spells without needing to prepare them. Pure insanity.
For Alchemical Items, he can make daily craft checks and the total he can create would depend on if he passes a skill check. He does have Swift Alchemy, which means he can create an item in half the time. Usually this means making two items of the same type with each successful daily craft check, but the GM can alter this as desired.
For example, Alchemist Fire has a base value of 20gp. So you convert the value to sp for crafting, or 200sp. He then makes a skill check against the DC to create. Alchemist Fire is a DC 20. To see if he succeeds it would be (Craft Check Result)x(DC 20) and if the result was 200 or higher (200sp) then he crafted the item.
Example:
So with that result he would have succeeded, since 400sp is higher than the 200sp base price.
He has to pay 1/2 of the base price for materials to make alchemical items or potions.
As far as potions go, he can make 4-5 level 1 potions per day, at half of the book price, per the Brew Potion feat.
Brew Potion (Item Creation)
You can create magic potions.
Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd.
Benefit: You can create a potion of any 3rd-level or lower spell that you know and that targets one or more creatures or objects. Brewing a potion takes 2 hours if its base price is 250 gp or less, otherwise brewing a potion takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. When you create a potion, you set the caster level, which must be sufficient to cast the spell in question and no higher than your own level. To brew a potion, you must use up raw materials costing one half this base price.
When you create a potion, you make any choices that you would normally make when casting the spell. Whoever drinks the potion is the target of the spell.
Well, these potions would all come in handy: CLW, Disguise Self (thought mostly if we're trying to bluff our way in to the tower), Shield (Kalt would love this), and possibly Enlarge Person, though it's a mixed blessing in melee.
We have four days - how about you make some craft checks, see how many you get, and we'll decide what we want? It's a bit meta, but it could easily represent Gil working on potions, seeing how things are going over time, and prioritizing certain potions over others as he makes better or worse progress - if Mez agrees with that line of thinking...
( I'm sure we'd all pitch in on costs.)
I do believe you've told me that before, Sven. Hrmph.
Definitely ready to pitch in on costs.
And sorcery is not insanity, it's just pulling the magic from the grass and the air. Duh!
Kalt - maybe Sven will forget one day if we keep trying to do it.
Kalt - maybe Sven will forget one day if we keep trying to do it.
We can hope, Bugsby. But there's a reason we call him DM Hope Crusher in our Second Darkness campaign.
You can't make potions of personal spells.
Actually, just wait till next level when Gilganis gets his next alchemist discovery and selects "Infusion". He can then give his extracts to other people to use. Then you WILL be able to have potions of personal spells. :)
I'll track those down, Sven.
Troll loot: +1 spear of manhunting, 4 potions of feather step, treasures of gemstones and jewelry totaling 2100 gp, and in coins: 2457 GP, 3313 sp, and 1760 cp
I didn't see a loot post for Volan and company.
They did not have much. Mundane longswords and crossbows, scale mail, some light shields. About 15 GP total among the dead guards. Volan himself had masterwork longsword and a spiked shield, scalemail and 24 GP.
Not sure which stuff you gave them to use when you sent them away.
You have about 2.5 days to craft if you do want to make items.
So how about we make/buy
- 4-5 Alchemists Fire at least
- 2-3 CLW
- Add stuff you/we want here.
Bugsby will put up all his $ or split with those who want to/can pitch in. What's the cost on the above Gil?
Honestly, I should not get a split of your loot. I started with WBL for a level 3 character, so I am good. You all should split that amount between yourselves at this point.
As far as what I can make on the list Bugsy mentioned. In 2.5 days I should be able to make:
- 4 Alchemist Fire
- 3 Potion of CLW
Or:
- 2 Alchemist Fire
- 6 Potion of CLW
Gilganis already has 4 alchemist fires and a number of other alchemical items that I started with, and I can share those with the party if potions seem like the better route until we can get a wand of CLW.
I am greatly saddened by "potion to turn Bugsby blue" being left off the list.
I'm good with either approach on the potion mixing - thanks for figuring it out. And thanks for the loot tally, Sven! If only we had somewhere to spend it all...
As to Bugsby turning blue - it's not what he's really after, but he seems quite adept at turning blue whenever we're out in the wintry weather and he has to make Fort saves - though I suppose that's cold comfort to him.
I am greatly saddened by "potion to turn Bugsby blue" being left off the list.
I have a plan for that! :)
Oh it's still on his list! It just didn't make the serious OOC list :)
You know a wand of CLW seems to make more sense than a plethora of potions. What's the cost on that? 750gp?
It is 750 gp, and would make a ton more sense if we could find one. And several of the party could use it (Gil, Ankih, Kalt, Sven, Avora - everyone but Bugsby, in fact!), depending how Mez rules on things like rangers using CLW wands before they can actually cast spells.
Bugsby has UMD, so even he can use it, just not as easily.
There are places to spend that money, you just haven't sought them out.
Kalt will be able to use the wand freely once he gains his spellcasting ability, not before.
CLW wands are 750. In my home game they PC's returned to Heldren and went to Oppara (the capital) to buy a wand and a few items before jumping into the portal. In Waldsby, the chances of finding a wand of that nature are slim.
Oh... does slim = non existent?
I've taken 36 gp off of Kalt's gold total, to account for his 1/6th of the cost of Gil's brewing.
I don't see anything in the potentially available magic items that call out to me, but I'd be happy to keep Volan's MW longsword.
Belt is 4k and the armor/shield is like 4150. With no staff wielder I'll leave that out for now. With everything you should have about enough for 2.
Interest, yes. But not enough to spend all our dough. Lets move ahead.
Hey no crazy person thinks they sound crazy! :)
Fair enough, though as for waiting for some place a bit more friendly, you may be waiting for a VERY long time before you find some place like that.
I don't see anything in the potentially available magic items that call out to me, but I'd be happy to keep Volan's MW longsword.
That's still my view - any issues with me keeping the sword. Aside from that, I'm ready to go, with one minor question. Did we determine who is carrying the various brews Gil produced? I'd be happy to have some fire.
On the approach, how about those of us who could pass as guards (Kalt, Sven, maybe Ankih and Avora?) approach the gate with the rest under guard, like we're delivering captives to the Tower?
Or we wait until night and see about climbing over - but then the fey will be able to see and most of the rest of us won't.