This thread will be for OOC discussions, and eventually day job rolls. Let's do try to keep the OOC discussions out of the gameplay thread, please. If your post has no gameplay rolls or dialogue, and is just wrapped in ooc tags, it really should be here.
I also need to know if there's anything unique about your PC. Alternate racial traits, traits or boons that give you a second reroll on a save, feats or traits from obscure references, etc. Anything special I need to know about your PC, basically.
EDIT - And, more importantly, I need everyone's faction before we can properly begin.
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Hi! :D Checking in. Thanks for having me, GM Kim!
Faction is Sczarni.
I'm not sure if it's unique enough, but of note are a Storyteller trait from when Azeban was in Lantern Lodge that allows a knowledge check with a bonus even when untrained, a boon for a +1 luck bonus against a dragon's breath weapon, and the entirely ludicrous Rakshasa sorcerer bloodline ability that lets me disguise the spell I'm casting as any other spell if the identifier fails the spellcraft roll.
That usually means I'll have to call out what spell I'm disguising my spell as, but I'll always mention it at casting, and it still requires the identifier to attempt to identify it and fail at the roll, meaning they might not even try to identify it if they think they already know.
Oh, and the first bloodline ability has a protection against detecting Azeban's lies/forcing him to tell the truth, requiring the user of the effect to succeed on a caster level check.
Additionally, anything you need to know is on my profile to refer to in the future.
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Jory is Grand Lodge.
No problem with tier. He played up last adventure.
He does like to use thistle arrows that confer bleed 1 for a d6 rounds. He should have an arrow for every occasion, but he relies on his allies to tell him what arrows he should use. He knows enough to use cold iron on demons and devils.
Hmm. He might be a tad misinformed on that devil bit, but I won't tell if you don't!
Okay, haven't heard from Kyroden on faction (going with Scarab Sages, though! An older faction, but still ripe for the plucking), and haven't heard from Karos period. Will shoot him a PM.
Anyways, having heard from everyone else, and having five on hand, let's get started!
Almost forgot!
Table's link is over here. When you head over there, I'll need to know your display name so that I can attach your token to you. If you want a nicer looking token, let me know and I'll give you the info on where to send it to so I can upload it. I know there's not a lot of variety here to pick from. But, then again, the game won't be lasting that long.
You don't need to worry about setting up macro's or anything like that, all rolls will be done on these boards here. I just like Roll20 for it's lighting, fog of war, ruler, Pathfinder distances (diagonals), and so on. Plus it makes it easier for me to keep track of sekret behind the screen rolls with the chat log. It's all one big experiment!
EDIT - And I updated the info at the top of the page. Please let me know if your perception and/or initiative is wrong / swapped.
Asami, could you paste the following into your Classes/Level part of your profile for easy reference in the future, please? It will show up everytime you post in the gameplay and discussion threads, making my life a bit easier.
Paladin 3 | HP 25/25 | AC 14 T 10 FF 14 | CMD 16 | F +8 R +5 W +7 (+2 v death) | Init +2 | Perc +0
@ Asami - No worries! I just like to have the reference stuff handy since I'm lazy.
@ Karos - That's normal inquisitor stuff, so that's fine. It's the obscure stuff that gets dropped on me out of the blue that I get worried about. Like traits that let a character reroll will saves once a day, but only before they know the result of the first roll. I usually roll saves to speed things up, but then that makes the trait a little useless and unfair to the player since they already know if they failed or succeeded the save by the time they find out they made a will save. So I like to know about that kind of stuff beforehand!
Before we really get underway, I wanted to get everyone's input. PbP Gameday is coming up on Nov 1. We haven't really gotten underway yet (haven't hit the first encounter yet), so we have a few possibilities.
1. Delay until 1 Nov. The table will be set to closed recruitment / private table (since we're a full(ish) table), but we won't be able to do anything further until 1 Nov. However, this means that the scenario will be eligible for the gameday boons and whatnot.
2. Keep playing and maybe finish before the gameday begins, but probably not.
3. Dissolve the table now before any encounters begin and the table becomes reportable, freeing up characters for other scenarios for the gameday.
Let me know what you guys want to do. Thanks!
To be quite honest, I generally just skip over the optional's since they're just there to be resource drains if there's enough time, and PbP takes a long time as is.
As for the Roll20 table, I have Asami, Azeban, Karos, and Leil's tokens tied to their respective owners. I still need Jory and Kyroden to sign into the Roll20 table and let me know their profile name either through the discussion page here, PM me, or the chat page on Roll20 (or change their alias to their character's name as Asami and Azeban did, which was super useful).
We are shortly entering the part where we will be using the table. Thanks!
That doesn't help until you've signed into the table. Once you've signed in, though, I can assign the token to you!
Indeed! This fight is pretty notorious for being difficult in this subtier. The upper subtier is pretty bad, too, but at least the pc's have about 3 levels worth more gear (and HP) to be prepared for it.
Wow, this is awkward...
I forgot that power attack get's another -1 and +2 to damage at +4 BAB! We'll just handwave it for now, but everyone should have a lot more damage, heh...
...heh.
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Still doesn't solve the fact that only you can damage them, and the rest of us just get murdered or act as cannon fodder. We cannot afford the required material in order to beat these things...which is the primary and most frustrating issue about this encounter, since it seems to have been written with an understanding that 3rd level PCs all have access to Adamantine weapons.
The problem with doing that is that Leil's still at negative HP, so doing any standard action will immediately knock her back unconscious and lose a point of damage.
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If its an Improvised weapon then we take -4 on attack rolls, which basically requires us to roll a natural 20 just to hit. Still doesn't solve the problem.
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I HAVE A SOLUTION
I have some rope with me, and we can try and tie them up with some rope, while using the Grapple check, while the rest of us aid the person attempting to grapple. Good Idea?
Or we could all buy a bag of marbles
or we could buy tanglefoot bags
or we could buy tons of nets.
They're not auto-hitting, no, I've just rolled really good against you. If you noticed, I completely whiffed against a prone Leil and Kyroden on the other side in two consecutive rounds, but got a unconfirmed critical and a 15 without modifiers against you (which was just enough to hit you).
And yes, you are being speared from an adjacent square. I'm not sure what the issue with that is. They're not using longspears, just normal spears.
Umm, it looks like some grumblings about how I might not be running this fairly or giving a chance of winning. Could you be more specific in what I'm doing that's unfair, either here or in a PM? If you want, I can also give you the contact information for the online VO's.
I'm also not sure how the whole "it'd be a TPK if the party were humans" adds up. I'm not sure why there'd even be a TPK at all, actually. The only one who went down had fast healing put on her right before she went down and is now almost back up. And half the party is human or half-human (half-elf).
Anyways, let me know how you feel I'm running it incorrectly, please. Thank you.
Okay, I just wanted to make sure that you guys didn't feel that I was somehow railroading you into an unwinnable situation. I'm just trying to run the encounter as written.
I will grant you, however, and I've said it before, that this is an unusually tough encounter (notorious, even!) for this sub-tier. One of these fellows would've probably been enough. The upper tier just slaps the advanced template on them, so the fight is actually marginally easier at that tier .
And, yeah, the reason I do the rolls privately is because I like my "GM screen". I can be lousy like that, but I think it helps to put some mystery into the fight. Not so much with PbP, because once players figure out what they're fighting, some will have the bestiary ear-marked, but still, it helps. The damage rolls I put in since otherwise they can become lost in the wall of text and forgotten, and we wouldn't want that! Jory's just had some lousy rolls with my dice (a 20 (unconfirmed, naturally) and a 15), while Kyroden seems to be extremely lucky (a 3 and a 5). Just how lucky while surrounded by two of these guys, we'll have to see tonight...
@Karos - I need to know if you're trying to pick Leil up, which will put you at a heavy load (I imagine, I... haven't done the math), or reposition her to an adjacent square. I also need to know from Leil if he consents to this action before I can allow it.