Alie, you mentioned in our buff planning a lot of castings of Prot from Evil, here - did those actually get cast, or just talked about?
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Okay, nobody likes getting their asses curbstomped, but in the interests of helping us all play better in the future-- because if you're going to get a beating you might as well learn something-- I'm aware that our party made some serious mis-steps this one and there's some choices at high level play that are really things players should be taking into account.
Martials: you should have a way to clear your own status conditions, within reason (obviously it's pretty hard to clear, say, your own paralysis). I remember Noro asked at one point for a way to clear fatigue. Even if anybody else in the party had it as a cast (which I don't think we do), that's the sort of thing that in a pitched high-level battle, the support casters are probably playing triage (as Sharna is indeed doing at this point in time, trying to keep everyone on their feet etc), so you can't assume someone will be willing to pop an action on clearing your fatigue. Potions of lesser restoration are pretty cheap at this level though.
Consumables in general are your friends. Potions of delay poison, potions of antitoxin (SO cheap at this level guys), curative potions, etc etc. Given the random nature of PFS play you just cannot assume you're going to have someone else in the party who can clear dangerous conditions things for you. Noro, you're worried about your bleed, etc, and asking if people can clear it? You could have drunk a curative potion on your last turn and stopped it yourself. Xiaobo, you're aware a wand of mage armor and potions of mage armor would provide a SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper way to get your +4 AC 95% of the time and would have left you like 15K gold to spend on other things that would help you stay alive, right?
Also not to belabor the point but track your own bonuses, etc, like in Xiaobo's case with the poison. Or at least speak up when you're dealing with a condition and make sure it gets cleared BEFORE we're in another fight and you're suddenly a 'two possible turns to death' situation.
This fight would have been a LOT smoother if we'd also had those Prot from Evil up at the start. Though I also expect that any martial at this level is going to have a clear spindle ioun stone: if Noro had been dominated rather than hit with oneiric horror, this fight would probably already have ended in a TPK. We still can possibly pull this off, but we made a ton of unforced errors here.
I made my own screwups, just so it doesn't sound like I'm dumping on people: I should have spellcrafted that forbiddance the first it came up (though I think we probably would still have charged in given our options), but at least it would have given us more warning there. I was slow to chime in on things, but oof, this fight did really not have to be this rough, gang.
Haha, well, you're a special snowflake. :D In a good way.
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Agreed. I should have been more prepared. I also would not have played though if I had known my real world stuff would have been so busy and keeping me from focusing on game. This is also my first 10,11 game.. not really an excuse but it's a totally different ballgame compared to lower level. I will be looking into other ways I can through more support out there also
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Sound advice from Dien, thanks for posting that. I'm also going to add that complaining to have to roll nat 20's to save in one's worst save can't be a valid complaint at level 10 if that person didn't take steps to help make things better with aforementioned save. Consumables indeed, but also a more defensive array of feats, like Iron Will, will go a long way. That's the main issue with builds relying solely on offense. Versatility is key, especially at higher levels when you have decent wealth.
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ok thanks for the advice and lesson learned... I have ususally played most of my PFS in a small local group until we lost 3 players due to other commitments. I stopped playing for just under a year and was using this format to get back into things.
not an excuse of course. so again I have been "schooled" and all is good.
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Voros: The advice to 'fail the save' would basically be because if you're dead then we can worry about getting your body back, which we can't do if you're on that side of the forbiddance effect.
I think the GM said there may be more stuff coming if you were conscious, so I'll wait for a GM post before trying any Sharna actions.
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No, nothing more. I was only implying that Voros's chosen course of action if he made the save might invalidate yours, so another retcon might have been necessary. Your go, Sharna.
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Really? Here goes then.
Nope.
So, accounting time.
You overcame two encounters, missed one (the advanced iron golem in the hall), and failed at the last one. The scenario isn't very clear about the market mini-encounters, but I'll count them as one so that you can at least get the experience point.
As far as prestige/fame go, you don't get the primary success condition (recovering Zey's soul) but you get the secondary one (basically getting all the items possible in the market). So 1PP.
Reduced gold as follows: you got the aetheric ruins and the maenads, as well as the weapon in the secret room, but didn't get the hall (the items on pedestals guarded by the golem) or Muzthari's items. Hence, you get 4690 out of the 7843 gp for your subtier.
Chronicle sheets are here.
Most importantly, I hope you had fun playing this scenario, even if the last encounter was failed. Luckily everyone (save Ra) survived!
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Yes, thank you very much GM, you ran this large and complicated scenario very well even if we did not rise to the challenge. *salute*
Noro: this is meant as friendly advice, but I'd suggest your first purchase should be a clear spindle ioun stone and a wayfinder to slot it in. It won't boost your will save, but it will give you immunity to some of the effects that can most terribly screw up a party at this level. Take that from someone who was playing a barbarian in a non-PFS home game and TPK'd my own party..... twice. >____>
Cloaks of resistance are another default save boosting item. I know you have a cloak already, but given it's got a once a day use, you could always switch it out for the saves-boosting cloak once you've used it.
Xiaobo: It's up to you of course, but if you sold off the bracers of armor at the half cost, that would basically give you 7K-ish extra gold to spend on other things. (Drop 1K on a wand of mage armor and potions, or PP for the wand even. You can UMD the wand or have others cast it, it'll last an hour-- more than enough for scenarios like this one-- and what you lose out in having constantly on coverage of that +4 AC bonus can be made up for in items that otherwise save your bacon!)
/just suggestions, best of luck to everyone.
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Sharna I had thought about that but the only down side is that I have to rely on someone else. I have played games with an unoptimized party. So that is why I chose this route. I will be picking up the cloak though. I didn't realize I didn't have one already.
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Sharna, I'd be happy to kick in 1000 of my gold for your cost of replacing your familiar. No reason you should bear the cost alone.
Ditto, although I think the total cost is 1,450 gp using the Raise Animal Companion spell (which works on familiars).
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Refen, that's a fantastic spell, but unfortunately it requires me to actually be able to touch the dead familiar in question. Ra is no longer within touch range. ;)
I appreciate the offer(s), guys, but I think legally you can only contribute gold to raise another dead PC, not animal companions/etc.
(Xiaobo: That's why you also get a few potions of mage armor, for emergencies. They're 50 GP each. If there's no one in the party who can activate the wand (rare at this level, people have UMD even if they don't have the spell), you can still get an hour's worth of your AC for just 50 gold. I have two monks in PFS play, and in twenty + sessions with them, I've only failed to have mage armor up for a fight once-- where we got ambushed while doing an extended overland travel thing. Anyway, your call, obviously.)
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Double checked it... This is what I found on spellcasting services:
• To hire a spellcaster, you must be able to pay the gold piece cost. Page 163 of the Core Rulebook covers the rules for purchasing spellcasting services and the associated costs are listed in the Spellcasting and Services table on page 159.
• If you don’t have sufficient gold, the other players around the table can chip in, but they cannot be compelled to do so.
etc...
Doesn't say anything about it needing to be on a PC.
As for getting your familiar back, I've seen some GMs allow the 5 PP body recovery for it. Of course, that's not actually a rule, but I've seen that used for worse things (Such as getting pulled out of space and time tearing you apart for the low price of 5 PP! And that's even written in the module!)
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Hey all, sorry i ran away like that, it so unbecoming a Pirate Captain... If you are ever in the Shackles, don't ever mention it. Please.
I can chip in 500 gold for the familiar just say so and I will deduct it from the chronicle.
also, my pdf reader may not be working so well as it looks a little blurry on my screen, is that 1 xp and 1 prestige? or are they 0?
Well, that'd be at GM discretion whether or not I can spend PP for the body retrieval and go with the much cheaper raise companion/familiar option (which I will happily all of myself, it's not that much). Your call, Lithrac!
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Suh-weet. In that case I'll just knock off the PP and buy the raise companion spellcasting from, I dunno, Osprey or someone. :P Caster level 9 * spell level 5 * 10 + 1,000 GP component comes out to (as Refen said) 1,450, which is muuuch cheaper, and I have plenty of PP to burn.
Cheers for the heads-up on that, Refen. Everyone else, keep alla y'all's gold! :D
RA SHALL FLY AGAIN