Heroes of the Fifth Crusade (Inactive)

Game Master Klokk

My spin on the Wrath of the Righteous AP


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Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Should be cool then.
But wouldn´t you like some more versality?


As for the rest of Leto's post, with all the summons, mounts (and PCs), I could go back to Niesen the rogue intimidator. With all the summons, it should be child's play to find flanks for him, if I can convince the summoner to make the summons appear behind the bad guys. With the 25 point buy method, I should be able to get him up to snuff.

Can we take a 7 and gain a point buy point?


Leto V. Derexhi wrote:

Should be cool then.

But wouldn´t you like some more versality?

There's not much that's more versatile than summon monster spells, especially at later levels when they basically equal other spells (like lantern archons for the aid SLA).


Niesen is updated with the new creation rules. Assuming a 7 Int is okay, I just had to drop Con by 2 (still a 12).

I'm fine with either character, so I'll let the others vote which one they think would make a better fit with the group.

Niesen took the Touched by Divinity trait, choosing Cayden Cailean and the Strength domain (once per day enlarge person is fun).

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

IF you really wanna go with 7int.. that's fine.. I played a cleric once with a 7 wisdom at first level.. I rolled vary low for him. That was interesting my cleric couldn't even a cast a 0th level spell till 5th level

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

I think your all just bout ready to go? IS any of you not ready yet?


I think I'll save Kompden for a later game. He'd be great for a Jade Regent game or a Kingmaker game.

Niesen is all set and ready to go. He and Tamaell can empty many mugs of fine ale together.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric 1

Good to go.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Ready.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Feel free to post in the gameplay thread once you are ready. I don't know if it shows up or not in the tabs above.

Gameplay Thread

You can describe yourself and intro yourself to the other at that point as you have ten or twenty minutes until Lord Hulrun speaks and blesses the festival that you have all gathered here in Kenabres for.


Anybody still here?


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric 1

Yep, but I was starting to wonder.


Let's start our own WotR campaign, Tanith. With blackjack! And hookers!


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric 1

It sounds fine but I never have any luck with either.


Than I should probably start it. Had moderate luck with one, and very good luck with the other. But I would be an awfull PbP GM :-(


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Don´t worry, there were holidays and i guess it will begin soon.
PbP isn´t a rash thing, slow but steady normaly.


I don't want to start over. Just making a Futurama reference. :)

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Im sorry, had issue with my mouse randomly not being a valid usb device, its been sent to mfg and new one in route. borrowed a Bluetooth one from my dads work in meanwhile. Attempted to continue this a couple times but it required a hard reboot to get the mouse to work again.. for all a minute once windows was loaded. I was able to make a couple posts but not a longer one.. and the next post from me requires a bit of the {code} stuff in it. Expect it within the hour.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

(count two people left to respond still in gameplay. Ill wait till later tonight and then continue)

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

So hear is the deal. I bought books 1-2 from local store here, the rest I am getting from paizo so will have the pdfs for and easy to scan copy the images..

Since you do have a person with a notebook and pencil in the party, Ill have him roll one knowledge geography or profession: cartography check to make a map for down here and that will determine the quality of map I will supply for you, beyond the zork-esk room descriptions and directions you can go.


Profession cartographer: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 1 = 15


Could have been worse...


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Good to know^^
That might be worth a skill point for aid another then!


Up to DM...

Can the others assist Niesen in this (a.k.a., a bunch of people checking over his should backseat drawing)? He tends to be fairly absent-minded with his note-taking, so he might not even tell the others what he's doing, but if they notice...


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Ehm, but we do get battlemaps in fights or will that only be described?
For charging and stuff, that would be a great ease.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

from book three and on you get the ones from the pdf, for books 1/2 you get a hand drawn map by me whos quality and detail depends on niesen. I have reams of graphpaper and get the scanner back tomarrow.. so I'll provide that. I havnt looked into rolld20 or whatever its called yet.

There should be maps of some sorta, just im purposely fubbing the quality as none of you are cartographers. Farther on if you have the floorplans of a building, you will get more detailed maps. its all a matter of your characters perspective.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

I´m more talking of a battlegrid, so we know where we are and where the enemies are. It just makes Pathfinder combat a lot easier.
I don´t care that much how it looks like, as far as you can see the direct environment that might play a role in combat (cover, higher ground etc, difficult terrain, but also visibility and lighting) and the enemies.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Ohh I know.. I usually use a battle mat and a butt load of mini's. I don't know how to make that work for pbp. I spoke to a couple other wrath pbp dms and they got their books from paizo so got the pdf that they can just cut and paste maps from it into a googledrive thingy.

Like said get scanner back tomarrow from the shop. but accuracy of any map I provide will be only dc15 quality info. So it may have extra squares or the walls wont be exactly accurate at all times. If there is a need a to provide accurate grid I will do so, have reams of graph paper. But id rather focus on the story not the combat mechanics, which is why I wanted to try and keep it all descriptive.

if there is enough room for a charge ill let ya know. Ill let you know ALL that stuff. you going to have to read not see it, bit it should be crystal clear.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

Sounds good. We don´t need HD maps anyway, just for some orientation.
My experience is, that between words a lot of environmental information is lost often^^ But i´m sure we can work that out.


Well, playing a character who depends on tactical positioning, having a map would help. Otherwise, I'm going to be doing a lot of asking, "Can Niesen get into a flank?"

You could assume that, if Niesen can get a flanking position, he would automatically attempt to do such a thing, so when I say he moves up to attack, just automatically give him the flank if its doable, but then you'll have to add the sneak attack damage yourself.

Have you ever tried MapTool? You can just post screen shots. Also, one of my games uses somethig called "ditzie", which works very nicely, if you can upload a sketch of a map. It allows players to move their tokens themselves, then link screenshots in the game thread.


Roll20 is also an option as far as virtual tabletops go.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

No ive never used either. like this big chamber your in now.. is really big. those that have played or dmed this path.. my scaling is vastly different in some places. one of my two tables is all large or huge sized creatures, before enlarge person.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

are those conductive to pbp though? as in it wouldn't be a distraction from the story thread here to use one of them? Im open to just have zero knowledge of either other then they serve the same function.

I don't want it to have to be a X hour session. I already dedicate 2-3 days a week to face-face tables, was intending to be able to post periodically around the day for turns, generally either mid afternoon or midnight at a min, as im doing other stuff.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

I recommend ditzie.com
After a short introduction it is fairly easy to use and everyone can position himself then on the map. You just need to save the map by hitting enter after changing something and post the new link then.

Else googlemaps is probably a good thing too.
Roll20 is a good option of course too.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric 1

I only know things from the player's side, but I've see ditzie, Roll20, and googlemaps used and been happy with them all. That said ditzie does seem to be the easiest to use to me.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

picking scanner up later, ill check out that ditzie once I have an image to upload. after I scan it. my phones to dumb to do it via it.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

I guess if everyone just does the same as i did, it´s much easier for the GM to track numbers, see players stats etc.
Just fill in the stats i did in your charpage under the gender field, summarizing HP, AC, saves, INIT, perception and vision.

Also i think the GM is right, rolling as much as possible as once saves time and is easier to track, as long as it is clear what you roll. So rolling attack and damage in one roll is just fine.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

I don't want to know your AC/stats though. it makes it more of a challenge to me not knowing.

if it is to be something there other then you race..

Gender/race/class/deity & companion's name (mount/farmiliar/companion)

This will allow me to not pull punches, to let combat be as random as I wish without knowing that the person I am attack had 13 hp not 12.

Tanith did I read right that your pretty new to pathfinder in general and this is your first adventure path? Man, if that's true you picked the hardest adventure path to learn, as this one adds mythic rules ontop of normal rules.

What about the rest of you, have any of you played or Dmed this path? Played others. I just need to know that, because if your all less experienced in PF ruleses then ill be a tad less.. wrathfull then I am with people much more comfortable with the system.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Funny enough, its too hard for me, ive got a pair of moniters, on the 2nd one I have a openoffice doc with {dice}rolls{/dice} 1d20's ranging from -10+30 & then for most standard weapon damages. That's the only additional prep ive done so far for you guys.. side from the map that I havnt put onto graphpaper yet.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric 1

Yes, I think of myself still fairly new to pathfinder, but I don't know if someone else would or not. I've been gaming since 1980 or so but I skipped 3.0, 3.5, and up of D&D because I didn't like 3.0 at all when it first came out. I've only got about 80 hours of tabletop playtime under my belt for pathfinder compared to thousands of hours I have for other game systems. I still find myself looking stuff up and wondering just how certain things work.


Seelah HP 19/19 | AC 18 (20 with shield raised) | F 6 R 4 W 6 | Longsword +7 1d8+4 | Athletics +7 | Diplomacy +5 | Intimidation +5 | Lore +3 | Medicine +4 | Religion +4 | Survival +4 | Thievery +2

You can ask anything if you have questions.
As a Venture-lieutenant for PFS i´m fairly familiar with most rules, but since i also happen to be human in real life not perfect^^

Klokk i meant that before as a help to you, so you don´t have to look it up all the time. Of course, if you don´t want it, your choice. Personaly i like to have the most used stats and stuff there for myself too.
You want players then to control themselves probably with hit points?

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Im not a society dm but ive been been dming since 1e in 88 when I thought I had to beat that before could play 2e.. Ive got more hours played/dmed in 3.x then pf or even 2e. I still have to look things up to make sure I don't get something wrong. if you don't know about www.d20pfsrd.com is a great resource. id suggest reading into the mystic rules and figuring out which one of them you want to go for.

I am not tying the campaign feats to specific paths, they will be tied to you as characters, not some as written exactly.

That's great that Leto is a Venture Lieutenant, I never went with pfs because well I like to craft and make my own magical items and that's just not possible with pfs, trade off is I cant just sit down at a table and play one of my guys.

I know and I appriceate it. I just like as a DM to be kept in the dark about the mechanics of you guys. Keeping just fluff and no crunch there to me helps some with immersion rather then a bunch of crunch. I don't know about you but I have a hard copy of all the character I play in pbp as well as sheets on that mythbuilders.com site.

What do you mean by control yourself with hit points?


Guys, sorry for my absence, just a brief FYI - someone has broken into our home (while we were away for 1 day) and ransacked it thouroughly. I have some issues while I put everything back in place, please expect me to start posting again in 1-2 days.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Geeze, that bites. Take your time.. I promise not to kill you in the next three days :D


For some reason, I can't post my roll in the Gameplay thread. It keeps turning it into a Preview of the post.


It's there.

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

Ive run into that a few times myself. It sucks but perseverance will pay off, eventually.. Or you end up with dozens of identical posts and padd your post count a little bit ;D


I guess my post here broke the curse. :D

Silver Crusade

Male appears as a Dwarf to the Eye DM Level 0

On Wednesday, towards the end of book 3 I had a TPK for my Wrath Campaign at my brothers house. 8 players dead. Freek accident.

We have a large tackle box (its Minnesota) full of assorted dice. Each round DM uses random dice from the box.

In one combat with a bunch of creatures with multiple attacks and such I got 14 20's in a row. Round after round after round until the entire party was dead. The Players did not roll above a 1 for anything.

It was a vary freakish act. THis path IS scary how it consumes heroes. My other table is still alive but on hold at end of book 2 for a few months.


I assume you mean 8 characters dead. Killing the players is an extreme game!!

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